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    Quote Originally Posted by kuro_zero View Post
    Wrong.



    Wrong.



    Wrong. Only 5 quests on the list are run at -60% ransack.



    But, according to you, I'm running a quest @-60% ransack.

    Seems like I said the exact same thing:



    And its pretty sad when elementary algebra is regarded as fancy "math."
    Admit it or not your the one who is wrong about Ransack

    the term "fancy" was used since your Mathing away nice bonuses due to some idea that its not the most effienct method yet your already using a less than efficient method.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuro_zero View Post
    Wrong.

    But, according to you, I'm running a quest @-60% ransack.

    Seems like I said the exact same thing:"
    Actually you said something entirely different
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    You claim that Ransack only resets -40% on 1st day when in fact it resets 50% each day but, you can't see past your "Math" to understand your the one taking the quest to -60%

    Each time you repeat a quest, the amount of experience the quest grants decreases by 20%. Running a quest at -40% leaves your total ransack -60% at the end of the day
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    Got two characters on the TR train and a 3rd as soon as I get enough tokens for a heart.

    Have some tweaks in mind for level 16 and 17 so will see how that goes.
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    AFAIK, Kuro is right.

    Anyway, my 2 cents: If a quest is worth running at -60%, you can probably also include one run on Casual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cru121 View Post
    AFAIK, Kuro is right.

    Anyway, my 2 cents: If a quest is worth running at -60%, you can probably also include one run on Casual.
    Of the 5 quests listed that I run @ -60% ransack, running a casual could be worth while on 2 (tangleroot 5a and 6a). The others you run into a stiff overlevel penalty (-50% to -75%) in addition to 50% base XP on casual. While 25% first time bonus helps a bit, the reduced base XP means all bonuses are likewise reduced.
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    Thanks for the guide kuro I never use them for the most part since guildies want to run things and what not so I never stick to these just to be more flexible for others however, I do appreciate the time and effort involved in the creation of your guide and as such wanted to say thank you

    Stoner81.

    PS - It would really help a lot imho if certain packs were standardized in terms of level ranges (Threnal, Delera's, Sorrowdusk and Tangleroot to name a few) but that is another story entirely!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoner81 View Post
    Thanks for the guide kuro I never use them for the most part since guildies want to run things and what not so I never stick to these just to be more flexible for others however, I do appreciate the time and effort involved in the creation of your guide and as such wanted to say thank you

    Stoner81.

    PS - It would really help a lot imho if certain packs were standardized in terms of level ranges (Threnal, Delera's, Sorrowdusk and Tangleroot to name a few) but that is another story entirely!
    Thanks for the support and hope it helps. I also don't follow the guide verbatim, and also run what guildies and friends want to run if they're on. I'm finding it more useful as a reference of solid XP quests availible for a certain level.

    The level range Delta on certain quest chains are pretty annoying. Tangleroot is probably the worst offender mainly because alot of character power and equpement is gained during those levels. Sorrowdusk is another one that annoys me but mostly because elite trolls and ogres in Black Moon Waning chain are tougher than the cultists in the later quests.

    I would like to get some threnal quests on the list as they're excellent XP but the escort-like missions are problematic solo.

    Final thing is an update to the list. Last time I may have run with a 20% bonus XP weekend or was using 30% XP pots but regardless level 6 and 7 quests are short on XP to level (level 6 by approximately 7k, level 7 by a huge 20k - not sure what happened there).

    Will update OP after work - move some quests down a level to cover the gap, an elite The Snitch run @ level 7 (7m,~10k XP) and a Bloody Crypt elite run at either 7 or 8 (~22k XP, run time TBD) Will see if Bloody Crypt us worth forming at other difficulties, but its alot of running around by yourself.
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    Main problem I see with this is that a new player on his/her first character CAN NOT do any of this........


    How about a NEW player guide, not expecting any player to have ANYTHING but a mere 28pt build ( standard) and NOTHING more

    It doesn't help reading a guide to do missions on elite when you first have to do the mission on normal, even casual for some, before they can go to Hard and ONLY then go elite.

    So where are these "guides" they are in fact non existent or close too
    Any and ALL guides, tips and tricks I hve seen related to DDO takes for granted that players have either played enough to have their second or more life, or PAID something, be it bough an adventure or subscription.


    I wanted to see a guide, it was on a quest I struggled with, I turned off every vido guide I could find the oment I saw they were either higher level ( more then +3 levels) or P2p or Had extra classes or enchantment trees, like harper.

    To me this makes this guide totally BULLCRAP, and the guides alike, because those that need it don't have what the guide maker takes for granted after their own years of playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelique38 View Post
    Main problem I see with this is that a new player on his/her first character CAN NOT do any of this........


    How about a NEW player guide, not expecting any player to have ANYTHING but a mere 28pt build ( standard) and NOTHING more

    It doesn't help reading a guide to do missions on elite when you first have to do the mission on normal, even casual for some, before they can go to Hard and ONLY then go elite.

    So where are these "guides" they are in fact non existent or close too
    Any and ALL guides, tips and tricks I hve seen related to DDO takes for granted that players have either played enough to have their second or more life, or PAID something, be it bough an adventure or subscription.


    I wanted to see a guide, it was on a quest I struggled with, I turned off every vido guide I could find the oment I saw they were either higher level ( more then +3 levels) or P2p or Had extra classes or enchantment trees, like harper.

    To me this makes this guide totally BULLCRAP, and the guides alike, because those that need it don't have what the guide maker takes for granted after their own years of playing.
    For first time players doing it even on just normals it is still probably the fastest xp/minute quests. Besides first life should be less about speed and more about learning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelique38 View Post
    Main problem I see with this is that a new player on his/her first character CAN NOT do any of this...
    This isn't a guide for new players. There are plenty of those on the forums already; this is for vets who want to get small endgame rewards faster.

    How about a NEW player guide, not expecting any player to have ANYTHING but a mere 28pt build ( standard) and NOTHING more
    Here's one for you.
    Here's some 28 point builds.
    Frankly, 36-point builds are nice, but they're not the difference between a vet and a new player. Knowledge and understanding is.

    It doesn't help reading a guide to do missions on elite when you first have to do the mission on normal, even casual for some, before they can go to Hard and ONLY then go elite.
    If you have to run it on casual, you're likely never going to run it on elite (given the same build).
    You don't need to run anything elite, especially on a 28-point build.
    If you choose to run elite on a 28-point build, N/H/E works fine. Otherwise you can find a group, and then this guide is not for you (see the 2nd word of the title).

    So where are these "guides" they are in fact non existent or close too
    Any and ALL guides, tips and tricks I have seen related to DDO takes for granted that players have either played enough to have their second or more life, or PAID something, be it bough an adventure or subscription.
    I reference the links above. If you are looking for a guide for something specific PM me or post in the new player section and either one will be found or I'll write it.

    I wanted to see a guide, it was on a quest I struggled with, I turned off every video guide I could find the moment I saw they were either higher level ( more then +3 levels) or P2p or Had extra classes or enchantment trees, like harper.
    Ok, what quest? Did you check the wiki? It has moderately comprehensive guides for every quest, and Spiderwolf has done videos for many of them.

    To me this makes this guide totally BULLCRAP, and the guides alike, because those that need it don't have what the guide maker takes for granted after their own years of playing.
    I re-iterate: This is not a guide for new players. This is a guide for those who already have all the stuff the guide maker is taking for granted. This is an intermediate/advanced guide.
    You're asking for all guides to be basic only; not everyone is at your level, some have the basics mastered and are looking for more advanced knowledge.
    I'm starting to think you just want to get angry online; you've been offered help/guidance on every post I've seen from you, and continue to ignore/protest any advice given.
    I'm Khysiria on Cannith, and if you mail me or /tell me or PM me I'll roll up a toon (level 1/4/7/15 easily, but I'll even level one to match you) to help you figure out what you need to know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drekisen View Post
    For first time players doing it even on just normals it is still probably the fastest xp/minute quests. Besides first life should be less about speed and more about learning.
    I totally agree. You can also run elite, but it'll be in a group. You can even ask/post your LFM as a learning experience. On my main's first life I ran exclusively EBB, 1-20. However, I've run 70+ toons across my years of gaming, so to me it's more about speed now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zehnvhex View Post
    Warlock is basically a ghetto Shiradi Sorc. You gives up some of the damage and self sustain for the ability to just hold down left click and yolo blast your way to victory.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lynnabel View Post
    It's DDO. There are probably 6 different types of Evil damage.

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    Default I dont understand???

    The game GIVES YOU FREE TP for favor. Why not just run ALL quests once on ELITE and done? Now i dont run ALL the quest on elite, some are just not fun, but you can run most of them one ELITE and DONE each life.. If you get close to 3000 favor each level 20 TR that is 750 FREE TP EACH LIFE!
    14 TR's for completionist that is over 10,000 FREE TP!?!
    Do that 3 times for Triple completionist and you have OVER 30,000 FREE TP!! enough to buy every pack and class and bank and tomes and bags and......

    Now i know that is how you enjoy the game, BUT why?? A few more different quests and you get so much more out of the game... I run most quests ONCE ON ELITE and done, but one of my friends in game LAUGHS at me for doing this, because he can TR faster than me...but he also just buys TP when on sale, so maybe that is the difference?? I was VIP for the first year and got alot of FREE TP, then went Premium, for about 4 years. Now back to VIP because I really love this game and $8.25 a month is some of the best entertainment money i spend!!

    BUT I STILL LOVE MY FREE TP!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by awar1234 View Post
    The game GIVES YOU FREE TP for favor. Why not just run ALL quests once on ELITE and done? Now i dont run ALL the quest on elite, some are just not fun, but you can run most of them one ELITE and DONE each life.. If you get close to 3000 favor each level 20 TR that is 750 FREE TP EACH LIFE!
    14 TR's for completionist that is over 10,000 FREE TP!?!
    Do that 3 times for Triple completionist and you have OVER 30,000 FREE TP!! enough to buy every pack and class and bank and tomes and bags and......

    Now i know that is how you enjoy the game, BUT why?? A few more different quests and you get so much more out of the game... I run most quests ONCE ON ELITE and done, but one of my friends in game LAUGHS at me for doing this, because he can TR faster than me...but he also just buys TP when on sale, so maybe that is the difference?? I was VIP for the first year and got alot of FREE TP, then went Premium, for about 4 years. Now back to VIP because I really love this game and $8.25 a month is some of the best entertainment money i spend!!

    BUT I STILL LOVE MY FREE TP!!
    Speaking as a Premium player, I had a lot of trouble hitting 2.5k favor on my second life, and I had run nearly every quest I have available on elite. Including a bunch I'd never ran before.
    Elite once and done is great for favor/TP, but this guide is not for that.
    This guide is for those who want to get through a TR, solo, as fast as possible.
    Everyone can do Elite once and done, doesn't require any strategy etc (except if you're not VIP/$$ premium you probs need to grind a bit at some levels).
    Not everyone wants to take 200 hours in-game to get through a HTR, however.

    To get your 3k favor how many hours does it take you? Also how many undesirable or out-of-the-way quests do you have to do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zehnvhex View Post
    Warlock is basically a ghetto Shiradi Sorc. You gives up some of the damage and self sustain for the ability to just hold down left click and yolo blast your way to victory.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lynnabel View Post
    It's DDO. There are probably 6 different types of Evil damage.

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    The Op says he can TR in about 11 days.

    I do Once on elite and done, MOST quests, (there are some i dislike) if i was going from 1-20 14 days would be normal for me..... But i mostly run up to 30 then ETR, then ITR/HR

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