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    after epic tring i had 2 ghost spots that i could not do anything with if those 2 spots were the last that were "open" my inventory was full placing things in those spots basically just swapped the empty spot elsewhere but the empty slot stayed full.

    I tried dragging and dropping the empty slots to destroy what must be a bugged item and it's not possible so i epic tr'd again last night and now i have 3 such spots that i can't use.

    No idea what the items lost are and honestly don't care too much as i've made it through a life without the 2 the first time i have at least 4 more epic tr's to do and can't see me doing them if i'll have 8-12 slots unusable.
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    A dude I ran with recently had this going on, we spent 20 minutes trying to figure out how to clear it in game, but it was on a first life toon. I wonder if it's two separate problems or etr isn't the base cause?
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    no idea but the 2 spots showed up directly after an etr and then the third same thing right after an etr did your friend lesser maybe?
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    Fernando has yet to even suggest a nerf of anything.
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    A guildie has (had?) the same issue. Not sure if this was after ETR or ITR. And not sure if he ever got it fixed.
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    I can't guarantee that this is your issue, but I was recently talking to one of our bug investigation folks who found a bug where an item will accidentally appear behind another item, causing the behavior you describe. It's not that the empty slot is actually empty, rather it's that the slot is filled with an item that is being displayed as sitting behind another item. I understand that it's a pain, but one way to "fix" this is to create several real open slots, then shift items around until you find the culprit (I'd suggest looking behind your bags first as that's what the original bug described.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    I can't guarantee that this is your issue, but I was recently talking to one of our bug investigation folks who found a bug where an item will accidentally appear behind another item, causing the behavior you describe. It's not that the empty slot is actually empty, rather it's that the slot is filled with an item that is being displayed as sitting behind another item. I understand that it's a pain, but one way to "fix" this is to create several real open slots, then shift items around until you find the culprit (I'd suggest looking behind your bags first as that's what the original bug described.)
    I've had that with an icon pdk that has done an etr.

    The pdk armor cosmetic and the small bags return every etr, even though they are destroyed each life. And they sit on top of other items. Dragging and dropping the small bags to another inventory slot fixes it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lifespawn View Post
    no idea but the 2 spots showed up directly after an etr and then the third same thing right after an etr did your friend lesser maybe?
    Well, he wasn't my freind personally, I just ended up in a pug with him and he mentioned it and we all started trying to figure out how to solve it. But he said earlier he was a first lifer and asked a lot of questions about the types of tr'ing so I don't think he had lr'd, he really didn't know how any of worked.
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    I had a problem similar to this on my Shadar-Kai, and after a lot of shifting items around, I eventually managed to somehow fix it. In the process though, I somehow duplicated my shadar-kai's cosmetic armor...go figure. Still have both pieces, one in my inventory, the other in the bank. I had split them up to confirm it really was two physical pieces of armor and not a visual bug.


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    Its an ETR issue. When you tr and you got something in inventory (first backpack from the left). Try to move items from the first backpack to another. Two small bags should show. Delete them and problem solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    I can't guarantee that this is your issue, but I was recently talking to one of our bug investigation folks who found a bug where an item will accidentally appear behind another item, causing the behavior you describe. It's not that the empty slot is actually empty, rather it's that the slot is filled with an item that is being displayed as sitting behind another item. I understand that it's a pain, but one way to "fix" this is to create several real open slots, then shift items around until you find the culprit (I'd suggest looking behind your bags first as that's what the original bug described.)
    I had the same problem.. but my fix was a lot simpler.. i just clicked on the listing tab.. there items do not appear on top of the other and also it tells the amount of slots free u have.. in the case (0) zero slots and on the normal view was showing like around 8 empty ones..

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    yep that did fix it bags in the first pack behind items i didn't move like spell components
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    I can't guarantee that this is your issue, but I was recently talking to one of our bug investigation folks who found a bug where an item will accidentally appear behind another item, causing the behavior you describe. It's not that the empty slot is actually empty, rather it's that the slot is filled with an item that is being displayed as sitting behind another item. I understand that it's a pain, but one way to "fix" this is to create several real open slots, then shift items around until you find the culprit (I'd suggest looking behind your bags first as that's what the original bug described.)
    this happens every ETR for me and it is definitely the small bags that are magically in my inventory each time. I destroy them with extreme prejudice and the problem is solved.

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    This happened to me without an ER, but the fix was the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonnbeimnech View Post
    I've had that with an icon pdk that has done an etr.

    The pdk armor cosmetic and the small bags return every etr, even though they are destroyed each life. And they sit on top of other items. Dragging and dropping the small bags to another inventory slot fixes it.
    I had something similar when I LR a PDK a month or so ago with 2 ghost slots. I couldn't remember how I fixed the problem until you mentioned moving small bags in the inventory slots. So hopefully this will work on any others that also have this problem.

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    This is getting to be really frustrating. I'm having two issues:

    1. "Ghost" inventory slots as described in OP
    2. With a "full" inventory I am unable to equip other items (as if i were wielding two weapons and tried to put one away) even on simple cloak/voice slots (the latter is most annoying)

    I'm not charting novel territory when I say inventory is a massive commodity in this game, for everyone involved. We're happy for you to sell us more inventory space (though its very late coming) but fixing this is a bigger priority. Charge another 500 tp for inventory slots if you need the dev time to fix this problem with a complete overhaul of eight year old code, but don't introduce a 7th slot with taped up, recycled, work-arounds. You'll make a good bit of money from the players who will buy space - so do the conscientious thing and make it right.

    I'm kind of baffled though as to why this is a known issue, and why we have heard nothing from Jerry on it except in an ambiguous response to a player thread . A guildy of mine was told by a GM that this was caused by inventory bags in his 1st inventory slot after ETRing. Sure enough this was the issue, and at least for a short while this resolved the problem. My question is that if this was known by the dev team, why hold that information and not publish it? A simple one sentence long forum thread would have been appropriate no? It wasn't in the chronicle, wasn't mentioned to the ddo cast guys and as the known issues thread is inaccessible from google search (for me at least:redirect loop) I've got to hazard that it's not on there either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackdoguk View Post
    This is getting to be really frustrating. I'm having two issues:

    1. "Ghost" inventory slots as described in OP
    2. With a "full" inventory I am unable to equip other items (as if i were wielding two weapons and tried to put one away) even on simple cloak/voice slots (the latter is most annoying)

    I'm not charting novel territory when I say inventory is a massive commodity in this game, for everyone involved. We're happy for you to sell us more inventory space (though its very late coming) but fixing this is a bigger priority. Charge another 500 tp for inventory slots if you need the dev time to fix this problem with a complete overhaul of eight year old code, but don't introduce a 7th slot with taped up, recycled, work-arounds. You'll make a good bit of money from the players who will buy space - so do the conscientious thing and make it right.

    I'm kind of baffled though as to why this is a known issue, and why we have heard nothing from Jerry on it except in an ambiguous response to a player thread . A guildy of mine was told by a GM that this was caused by inventory bags in his 1st inventory slot after ETRing. Sure enough this was the issue, and at least for a short while this resolved the problem. My question is that if this was known by the dev team, why hold that information and not publish it? A simple one sentence long forum thread would have been appropriate no? It wasn't in the chronicle, wasn't mentioned to the ddo cast guys and as the known issues thread is inaccessible from google search (for me at least:redirect loop) I've got to hazard that it's not on there either.
    To be fair, it sounds like Turbine knew about the bug but weren't sure what was causing it. You can't really issue an advisory without concrete facts in hand. The responses to this thread have nailed down exactly what the problem is. Let's see what they do with the information now. *then* we can judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lifespawn View Post
    after epic tring i had 2 ghost spots that i could not do anything with if those 2 spots were the last that were "open" my inventory was full placing things in those spots basically just swapped the empty spot elsewhere but the empty slot stayed full.

    I tried dragging and dropping the empty slots to destroy what must be a bugged item and it's not possible so i epic tr'd again last night and now i have 3 such spots that i can't use.

    No idea what the items lost are and honestly don't care too much as i've made it through a life without the 2 the first time i have at least 4 more epic tr's to do and can't see me doing them if i'll have 8-12 slots unusable.
    I had this same problem that corrected its self when I logged off and back on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    I can't guarantee that this is your issue, but I was recently talking to one of our bug investigation folks who found a bug where an item will accidentally appear behind another item, causing the behavior you describe. It's not that the empty slot is actually empty, rather it's that the slot is filled with an item that is being displayed as sitting behind another item. I understand that it's a pain, but one way to "fix" this is to create several real open slots, then shift items around until you find the culprit (I'd suggest looking behind your bags first as that's what the original bug described.)
    I noticed this a lot on an Iconic life AFTER an ETR. The starter bags will suddently appear in slots 1,2,3 over whats already there. Its after log in.. and not always the first time.
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