Avatar of Eilistraee

[Eth]

Going rapiers with Swashbuckler is a good way to edit the build (granted you lose flavor but you know game mechanics and all that...of course Celestia is a bastard sword in a shortsword category..works for SB... but if you fascinate I dont' recommend using it)

Well, we're getting weapon cosmetics soon(tm) - at least on lammania they worked fine.
So you can go with any weapon and still have your flavor. Which weapon would resemble a moonblade best btw.?

[MadCookieQueen]

Well, we're getting weapon cosmetics soon(tm) - at least on lammania they worked fine.
So you can go with any weapon and still have your flavor. Which weapon would resemble a moonblade best btw.?

Alchemical or Drow Master...both have the right clean look and the large enough form to make it look closer to a moon blade.

I like Nightmare myself but it's too sinister to work for a good diety

[Eth]

I like alchemical (guess you mean long swords?). Oathblade also has a nice look.
But I think these are my favourite:

[Wipey]

That abomination looks more like something a Priestess of Eilistraee would be hunting under the light of full moon

[Bridge_Dweller]

I like alchemical (guess you mean long swords?). Oathblade also has a nice look.
But I think these are my favourite:

You managed to find something tackier than the assless-chaps. Congrats.

[Eth]

You managed to find something tackier than the assless-chaps. Congrats.

Totally forgot to put on this helmet. Think it should grant PDKs permanent blindness...

[MadCookieQueen]

Figured I would do this...slightly quick and dirty...so I apologize for any errors...warning...gear is a WIP

Major note...instead of Cleric I went FvS...more spell points +2 to Will and Reflex saves. (yes, yes I know cleric is genre...but the mechanic in DDO kind of trumped that...so lose some SP and saves to be fully inline with genre)

Overall the update looks very promising.

I have not tested her...been busy with the Firestarter


Avatar of Ellistrae – Drow – 18 Bard/1FvS/1Fighter
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Stats*:
STR**: 50/84(17 Base, +5 tome, +7 levels, +1 exceptional, +10 item, +2 enhancements, +2 ED, +2 insight, +2 profane/+2 Inspire Exc., +2 Ship, +4 Alchemical, +5 morale, +6 Psionic, +15 Divine Might, +2 supreme lasting elixir)
DEX: 38/46 (13 Base, +5 tome, +1 exceptional, +11 item, +4 insight, +2 profane/+2 Inspire Exc., +2 Ship, +4 Alchemical, +2 supreme lasting elixir)
CON: 38/47 (13 Base, +5 tome, +1 exceptional, +11 item, +4 insight, +2 profane/+2 Inspire Exc., +2 Ship, +4 Alchemical, +5 morale, +2 supreme lasting elixir)
INT: 28/34 (10 Base, +5 tome, +1 exceptional, +8 item, +2 insight, +2 profane/+2 Inspire Exc., +2 Ship, +2 supreme lasting elixir)
WIS: 18/22 (8 Base, +5 tome, +1 exceptional, +8 item, +2 insight, +2 profane/+2 Inspire Exc., +2 Ship, +2 supreme lasting elixir)
CHA: 40/44 (17 Base, +5 tome, +1 exceptional, +11 item, +2 insight, +2 profane/+2 Inspire Exc., +2 Ship, +2 supreme lasting elixir)

*add in +2 for Yugo
**Divine Might is an insight bonus and does not actually stack with the insight item, this was accounted for in the buffed number

Core Stats:
HP: 861/987 (+126 Levels, +80 Epic, +392 Con, +10 Draconic, +50 False Life, +25 Shroud, +15 Autogrant, +35 enhancements, +20 Vitality, +50 ED)
SP: 1624 (+575 base, +80 Magical Training, +476 CHA Bonus, +60 enhancements, +250 Item (+13 for FvS bonus), +100 GS, +25 Ship, +125 Epic Destiny)
PRR: 111 (+30 armor, +24 Sheltering, + 10 Heavenly Presence, +9 EPL, +12 enhancements, +10 Epic Damager Reduction, +16 PRR augment)
Mitigation: 47.4%
Fortification: 170% (130% Shadow Scale + 40% Brace for Impact)
Double Strike: 64% (+9 ePL, +5 PTWF, +30 action boost +20 enh)
Dodge: 18% (+3% destiny, + 15% enh)
Stunning Blow: 76 (10 Base, +37 STR, +12 item, +5 combat mastery, +3 PL, +1 ship, +6 ED, +2 tactician)
Frozen Fury: 69 (14 base, +17 CHA, +9 bard levels, +12 stunning item, +5 combat mastery, +3 fighter PL, +1 ship, +6 ED, +2 tactician)


Saves:
Fortitude: 58 (10 Base, +4 epic, +19 ability, +4 morale, +11 resistance, +2 luck, +1 competence, +3 ship, +1 enh, +3 GS, +3 ePL)
Reflex:72 (13 Base, +4 epic, +18 ability, +4 morale, +11 resistance, +2 luck, +1 competence, +3 ship, +6 enh, +3 GS, +3 ePL, +6 unearthly reflexes)
Will: 52 (13 Base, +4 epic, +10 ability, +4 morale, +11 resistance, +2 luck, +1 competence, +3 ship, +1 enh, +3 GS, +3 ePL)

Feats:
Past Lives: Fighter x3, Bard x3
Epic Past Lives: Energy Criticals x 3, Brace x 3, Doublestrike x 3, Colors of the Queen x 3
1: SWF
2: FvS: Vulkoor
3: Maximize
6: Precision
9: ISWF
12: Quicken
15: IC: Pierce
18: GSWF, Fighter: Stunning Blow
21: Inspire Excellence
24: Overwhelming
26: PTWF
27: Epic Damage Reduction
28: Tactician

Skills:
Balance: 11
Heal, Spell Craft, UMD, Perform, Concentration: 23
Perform: 88 (+17 CHA, +6 GS, +20 item, 23 ranks, +8 epic, +4 Tome, +2 luck, +4 GH, +1 profane, +3 ship)
UMD: 72 (+17 CHA, +6 GS, +5 item, 23 ranks, +8 epic, +3 Tome, +2 luck, +4 GH, +1 profane, +3 ship)
Heal: 68 (+10 WIS, +13 item, 23 ranks, +8 epic, +4 Tome, +2 luck, +4 GH, +1 profane, +3 ship)
Spell Craft: 76 (+11 INT, +20 item, 23 ranks, +8 epic, +4 Tome, +2 luck, +4 GH, +1 profane, +3 ship)

Spell Power and Lore:
Fire: 290 (+144 item, +76 spell craft, +15 ship, +5 enhancements, +25 destiny, +25 CoV Spell power potion)
Positive: 261 (+138 item, +68 heal, +15 ship, +15 destiny, +25 CoV Spell Power potion)
Sonic: 277 (144 item, +88 perform, +5 destiny, +15 ship, +25 CoV spell power potion)

Lore:
18% Positive (+17% Universal, +1% ED)
27% Fire (17% Universal, +9% ePL, +1% ED)


Spells:
Bard: Bard: Focusing Chant, Cure Light Wounds, Expeditious Retreat, Feather Fall, Cure Moderate Wounds, Rage, Blur, Invisibility, Cure Serious Wounds, Good Hope, Displacement, Haste, Freedom of Movement, Dimension Door, Cure Critical Wounds, Shout, Greater Heroism, Mind Fog, Cure Light Mass
FVS: Nightshield, Divine favor

Enhancements:
Kensai (4): Core – Light Blades (1), Action Boost: Haste III (3)
WarPriest (4): Cores - Smite Weakness (2), Divine Might III (3),
Swashbuckler (38): Cores 1 – 4 (4), On Your Toes III (3), Blow by Blow III (3), Sword Dance II (4), Action Boost: Double Strike III (6), Fast Movement (2), Elegant Footwork (2), Style – Dashing (1), Resonant Arms III (6), Thread Needle (2), Exploit weakness (2), CDG (2)
Spellsinger (6): Cores 1, Lingering III (3), Magical Studies II (2)
Warchanter (28): Core 1-4, Rough and Ready III (3), Poetic III (3), Arcane Shield Chant III (3), Frozen Fury III (3), Iron Skin Chant III (3), STR I & II (4), Reckless Chant III (3), Northwind (2)

Epic Destiny and Twists:
Divine Crusader: Interrogation (1), Purge the Wicked (1), Strength I & II (4), Flames of Purity II (2), Consecration III (3), Sacred Ground (2), Crusade (2), No Regret (2), Empryean Magic (1), Heavenly Presence (2), Celestial Champion (2), Strike Down (2)

Twists:
Legendary Tactics, Primal Scream, Brace for Impact, Unearthly Reflexes/Cocoon/Energy Sheath

Gear (WIP):
Epic Mentau's Goggles
Flawless Shadow Scale – Light Armor, Shadow Killer
Epic Chord of Reprisals
Mystic Eidolons
Epic Bracers of the Inferno
Consuming darkness EE
Random Loot Gen Ring Health +10, Health +50
Epic Boots of the Innocent
EE Backstabbers
Epic Litany of the Dead /PLIS
Greensteel Cloak – balance land and sky (10 HP +2 DEX skills, 15 HP +4 CON skills, 3 Resistance (stacks)
100 SP, +6 CHA skills)/Jeweled Cloak
TF Shortsword: 1^st Degree Burns, Dragon's Edge, Mortal Fear (Orange: Devotion +138)

Just assume all the usual augments: +16 PRR, Vitality +20, good luck +2, globe, anthem, +8 INT and WIs, Devotion +138, draconic, heal +13…you get the hint

[MadCookieQueen]

I like alchemical (guess you mean long swords?). Oathblade also has a nice look.
But I think these are my favourite:

I meant the bastard swords...after all that's what a moon blade is...




Hey if that style works for you...then ROCK ON!

[Chewysc]

I'm 3 Arcane PL's away from Epic Completionist so I'm wondering if this build would work OK as a PDK (to get PRR) in Fatesinger?

Granted, I would have to take Fighter at level 1 and loose some skill points but that's fine.

Any thoughts?

[MadCookieQueen]

I'm 3 Arcane PL's away from Epic Completionist so I'm wondering if this build would work OK as a PDK (to get PRR) in Fatesinger?

Granted, I would have to take Fighter at level 1 and loose some skill points but that's fine.

Any thoughts?

the drow mostly serves as part of the flavor of the build...so PDK could work without too many problems. Just try to come as close to the stats as you can...so the order really is STR, CHA, CON, DEX.

and at the end you only need enough Balance for the SWF line...but max perform, UMD, heal, concentration and spellcraft (pretty much in that order)

Fatesinger is fine...I had more fun in Draconic...then again I just like making all the things go BOOM!

[Aerendil]

I'm wondering if Divine Might is really worth it these days, aside from the flavour of representing Eilistraee's power (which, sadly, is negligable as she's dead now). I know that's most of the cornerstone of the build, but in a best-case sort of scenerio, with fully maxed out character stats, you're looking at +15 str from it. That's +7dmg mainhand; +3 offhand. Capstone by staying pure would be +2 str, +1 dmg inspire courage, and +5 music bonus to damage from Inspire Heroics - resulting in +7dmg *per hand*.

Granted, you lose your Fighter level too which means no haste boost, and it would lower your stunning blow DC significantly, but you could go the Warchanter ice route and most likely still have a good DC (low 60s, plus Insults from SB to lower enemy saves further). And it's AoE.

Just a thought

*edit* - just saw you updated for U23 with frozen fury, disregard that portion
And you're SWF now - interesting...

[MadCookieQueen]

I'm wondering if Divine Might is really worth it these days, aside from the flavour of representing Eilistraee's power (which, sadly, is negligable as she's dead now). I know that's most of the cornerstone of the build, but in a best-case sort of scenerio, with fully maxed out character stats, you're looking at +15 str from it. That's +7dmg mainhand; +3 offhand. Capstone by staying pure would be +2 str, +1 dmg inspire courage, and +5 music bonus to damage from Inspire Heroics - resulting in +7dmg *per hand*.

Granted, you lose your Fighter level too which means no haste boost, and it would lower your stunning blow DC significantly, but you could go the Warchanter ice route and most likely still have a good DC (low 60s, plus Insults from SB to lower enemy saves further). And it's AoE.

Just a thought

*edit* - just saw you updated for U23 with frozen fury, disregard that portion
And you're SWF now - interesting...

<RANT class = "4th edition garbage">

First...she is not dead (the beheading of a god in an avatar body and not on their home plane or in their true form only results in banishment...that's fact). The death of many gods happened in 4th edition. The 4th edition material was written without consulting nor feedback form any of the actual authors of that realm, including Greenwood himself. Now in 5th edition the writers are trying to undo all of the damage (called The Sundering) and genre breaks caused by 4th ed writers who didn't have a clue. However it will take a while as the writers are not allowed to redcon anything. As their material and word is considered true cannon to the Realms, I would ignore anything coming out of 4th edition....in fact forget it ever existed.

</RANT>

The boost to strength is indeed due to tactical DCs...without a massive strength feeding into stunning blow...it would be basically useless.

The +15 to strength as you outlined, to keep the +7 to dmg, would force me to take the WC capstone...that'll happen...in a world where we are all cats. If I have to take a capstone Swashbuckler would be the one to take.

Also the STR bonus improves my to hit ability, with some of the jumping around rogue baddies out there...yeah every point to smite them down is a win win.

The loss of haste boost is an issue, especially in terms of play style as I do go back and forth between haste and doublestrike. If you look at it from a swing speed they are around equal...however this allows me to double the amount of boosts for 4 AP.

Also Fighter grants me a feat...which is a necessity, since Bards are feat tight.

Low 60's on a tactical DC isn't going to get you far in EEs and since I play mostly EEs (unless grinding where I watch my XP per minute) the tactical DC is important.

I went SWF because with that line it's better for me than TWF...also let's face it...it's genre...she wielded one moonblade not two and the mechanics of DDO allowed me to bring that back into the fold

and finally...in a sea of CHA based Bards...she's kind of the last of the STR based...something I wouldn't trade on her for the world ^^


Thanks for the feedback and as always...game on!

[Xaxx]

<RANT class = "4th edition garbage">

First...she is not dead (the beheading of a god in an avatar body and not on their home plane or in their true form only results in banishment...that's fact). The death of many gods happened in 4th edition. The 4th edition material was written without consulting nor feedback form any of the actual authors of that realm, including Greenwood himself. Now in 5th edition the writers are trying to undo all of the damage (called The Sundering) and genre breaks caused by 4th ed writers who didn't have a clue. However it will take a while as the writers are not allowed to redcon anything. As their material and word is considered true cannon to the Realms, I would ignore anything coming out of 4th edition....in fact forget it ever existed.

</RANT>

You rant.. never... that said... dont' shoot me later

Gods can die outside of their home plane if they're entire power focus is forced into avatar form and far enough away from the godhead. Writers are currently trying to get out of alot of affects of the spellplague with the sundering by doing some weird stuff, just as weird as the Albier alignment of 4th edition. Such as the year of the reborn hero that Salvatore and a few others are using....

Either way when Ao forced the gods down and sepearted their powers from the godhead of their realm, more then a few were killed and had their folders assumed into a new mortal or folded into another diety (Cyric taking multiple folders upon his assention including death, which was later lost to Kelemvor.) (Mystra dieing for the 2nd (3rd?) time and having Midnight receive the godhead and become the new Mystra, though she dissapeared in 4th and as per the ddo storyline of motu she seems not to have died and will be answered in 5th edition books)

Either way El could be dead, or they could write her out of it, it depends mainly on what they choose to do with the drow gods in the wake of the ongoing companions codex and the follwoing story line... with lolths renewed war on the surface (you cant expect lolth not to join the tyranny of dragons party can you?) this could go a few different ways.

Won't say any more because to much in the way of spoilers for people who havent been reading the new fr books or fan speculation about hints dropped or possibilities dropped in the The Sundering series so far.

[MadCookieQueen]

You rant.. never... that said... dont' shoot me later

Gods can die outside of their home plane if they're entire power focus is forced into avatar form and far enough away from the godhead. Writers are currently trying to get out of alot of affects of the spellplague with the sundering by doing some weird stuff, just as weird as the Albier alignment of 4th edition. Such as the year of the reborn hero that Salvatore and a few others are using....

Either way when Ao forced the gods down and sepearted their powers from the godhead of their realm, more then a few were killed and had their folders assumed into a new mortal or folded into another diety (Cyric taking multiple folders upon his assention including death, which was later lost to Kelemvor.) (Mystra dieing for the 2nd (3rd?) time and having Midnight receive the godhead and become the new Mystra, though she dissapeared in 4th and as per the ddo storyline of motu she seems not to have died and will be answered in 5th edition books)

Either way El could be dead, or they could write her out of it, it depends mainly on what they choose to do with the drow gods in the wake of the ongoing companions codex and the follwoing story line... with lolths renewed war on the surface (you cant expect lolth not to join the tyranny of dragons party can you?) this could go a few different ways.

Won't say any more because to much in the way of spoilers for people who havent been reading the new fr books or fan speculation about hints dropped or possibilities dropped in the The Sundering series so far.

I know...me ranting?! It shocks me too...the very few times I ever do it ;p

The key is that the gods never fully died...Mystra "dies" so often I think she does it for the attention. Heck...even Karsus is somewhat still alive...dude has followers and believers. I do believe there was one goddess that did officially die (as in to never EVER return) but to make that happen it took high elven magic to literally erase her existence out of every single persons mind...without a worshiper...they go poof ^^

With all the interesting story lines coming out and Lolth doing her thing...there's no way in heck...Eili is staying "dead".


(as a note...I hit the evil post count in this post...muhahahah!)

[Xaxx]

I know...me ranting?! It shocks me too...the very few times I ever do it ;p

The key is that the gods never fully died...Mystra "dies" so often I think she does it for the attention. Heck...even Karsus is somewhat still alive...dude has followers and believers. I do believe there was one goddess that did officially die (as in to never EVER return) but to make that happen it took high elven magic to literally erase her existence out of every single persons mind...without a worshiper...they go poof ^^

With all the interesting story lines coming out and Lolth doing her thing...there's no way in heck...Eili is staying "dead".


(as a note...I hit the evil post count in this post...muhahahah!)

Mytryl died... dead poof uhg yoink dead... she committed suicide the moment before Karsus grabbed the godhead, she used her last act to reincarnate herself as mystra.... mystryl may have done that before.... but during the time of trouble... no mystra died... no half truths, no disappearing.. poof dead. The caster Midnight took the godhead with help from departing mystra and a few others... but the former being that head the power was gone. A new being took over, independent of the other. That is the death of the god in question, the source of their power will remain, but the god itself does not make the power, the power makes the god in FR. Ao's decree doesnt leave room for it any other way. Bane is dead as a doornail, Cyric took his portfolio and took the portfolio Myrkul as I referenced, which was then passed to Kelemvor (well taken by kele and midnight who had taken the name mystra). That alone shows a god dieing, his power being taken by another being, and the power being taken by another being after. Now some of the dead gods powers remain in holy sites and other things but thats power residue rather than an actual god. Banites continued to have powes granted to them, but that was because Cyric wanted to mess with them and try to convert them.

Either way, alot of this stuff was answered by time of troubles as referenced. The question is for El is this... did she walk the realm by choice (to much discomfort from spell plague and alignement shift in home plane) or was she forced out (some of the gods were which makes their deads permanent, but their power vacant). Now in Els case being forced out would have made her power vacant, but she was never worshiped very widely anyway so it was not a large power base or realm to have been found or taken. It may have been usurped or otherwised used by lolth herself in her assent to greater power from lesser. I havent read anything that leads me to believe that happened, but I havent read every fr book, and as has been pointed out to me here before that just because I think something maybe the way it is I cannot say for certain either way because sometimes stuff is referenced that I havent read. But either way gods do die away from their home plane depending on circumstances. Now snuffing a god, godhead, powerbase, and plane of existence all together (complete and irrevocable displacement or destruction of a god and ite entire portfolio) in fr... whole nother kettle of frogs all together.

As for Karsus being alive, no, remanants of his power reside where his avatar fell to earth as referenced by Melegaunt during the Archwizards trillogy when Shade returned to FR. Yet Karsus himself while still worshiped by some Shadovar gratns no clerical powers outside of those drawn from relics or remnants. The only time I know of clerical powers being granted in his name was actually Shar doing it. Once again if theres something that I missed in reference to this I'm happy to be given something new to read

[cdbd3rd]

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(as a note...I hit the evil post count in this post...muhahahah!)

Does his patronly duty, and applies a liberal coating of post# ending in 777 to make it all betterer.

[Chewysc]

the drow mostly serves as part of the flavor of the build...so PDK could work without too many problems. Just try to come as close to the stats as you can...so the order really is STR, CHA, CON, DEX.

and at the end you only need enough Balance for the SWF line...but max perform, UMD, heal, concentration and spellcraft (pretty much in that order)

Fatesinger is fine...I had more fun in Draconic...then again I just like making all the things go BOOM!

OK cool, I'll keep the above points in mind.

Thanks so much for your build and insight!

[MadCookieQueen]

we are so derailing this build thread...but boy is this fun ^^ (no seriously...I'm really liking this talk...no sarcasm was hurt during the writing of this post)

Great thing about the Realms...Gods may "die" but they dont' stay that way...usually.


Bane - Faiths and Pantheons 3.5 -

On Midwinter night of 1372 DR, Xvin burst in a conflagration of diabolical green light. From the smoking husk of his remains emerged a newly reinvigorated Bane, his right hand ablaze with green fire. Xvim, it appeared, had been little more than a sentient cocoon.

He may have "died" but that didn't last.


As for Mystra...like I said she's "died" so many times it has to be an attention thingy. However the moving of her mantle, I consider it to be akin to moving around her being only in someway keeps her alive. the body doesn't matter, the power and her Chosen...they matter in keeping her effectively "alive"

I don't also count reincarnation as actual "death" more like a "hey! i'm taking a vacation." (this is all subjective of course...but personal beliefs and interpretations makes for interesting discussion)

and back to Eili -- (she's actually classified as a major deity...in 3.5) I did mention that 4th edition is garbage and in no way do I count her as dead.

So no...not matter what The Lady Pentamajig series penned it...it doesn't exist...she isn't dead...she like many other dieties are on vacation...until Greenwood and company says it's time to go back to work

(do you really think they will leave it as Lolth is the ONLY drow deity...making the entire race a slave to her weave? that is lame)

[MadCookieQueen]

Does his patronly duty, and applies a liberal coating of post# ending in 777 to make it all betterer.

Thanks! I was feeling pretty dirty there for a moment.

OK cool, I'll keep the above points in mind.

Thanks so much for your build and insight!

You're welcome! Come back and ask any questions. Good luck and game on!

[Xaxx]

Ok i have faiths and avatars from second and the faiths 3 book, gotta go read over bane again... not saying your quotes wrong one bit, i just thought bane had been fully killed off. Useful info... and might explain something that happens in sundering book 4....

You seem to to look at the fr gods as the whole, the god and the power behind them. I view the god as the being and the godhead as the power source. So yes the source is hard to destroy, but the god itself not so hard


As for ignoring the LP series... well as I said she could be or might not be dead based on what I said earlier, LP doesnt answer that question.... that and LP was kinda *stuff*y anyway. Also yes, alot of stuff put down in 4th ed is being reworked (one of the seven sisters that while never shown dead or had a death scene was writen factually as being dead has shown up already) so they could do alot of things there.

Do I think they'll let Lolth remain the lone drow diety.... theres one sentence in companion codex that should clue you in as to if she's the lone drow diety still kicking... hint... she's not. Whose still around..... not sure... but one sentence says there's atleast one more still around.

Dang it you now I gotta go dig through my books to find my faith books lol.

Oh and sorry didnt mean to disrail your thread.... also if you want bastard sword... twinblade for visual ... that way you can wield two bastard swords at the same time with swf ... though they really dont look to much like a moon blade