Holy Shadow

[Failedlegend]

So my friend and I have been running our Master of Saves and Mistress of Storms duo for a while now and whilst my Monk has no issues with traps the Sorc was getting obliterated and I couldn't find any way to fit Trap skills into the Master of Saves nor did I want to waste a massive amount of T-Points constantly purchasing rogue hirelings. So I wanted to create a similar character as the Master but fit in trap skills.

I'm actually quite happy with the results the only real complaints are that I lose stunning fist and Defender stance is delayed until Lvl 10 instead of lvl 9 but its minor...this build also has alot more DPS (it can switch between tank&dps using different monk stances and CE or Precision) so holding aggro will be a bit easier especially since any time I lose aggro the SA kicks in. Also I like the q-staff attack animation much better than the punching so that's nice.


Anyway I'd love to hear your thoughts on my "Holy Shadow"

"Holy Shadow" Halfling Rogue8/Monk6/Paladin6

Dex 18 (Lvl ups here)
Con 16
Int 14
Cha 14

Level Order: Rogue 1, Monk2-4, Paladin5-10, Rogue 11- 14, Monk 15 - 17, Rogue 18-20

Skills: Search,Disable Device, Concen, UMD, Spot, OL

1 FoP
2M Combat Expertise
3 DM of Healing
3M Precision
4M Light Path
6 SF: Concen
9 Empowered Healing
12 IC: Blunt
15 SF: UMD
17M Toughness
18 Master of Forms
ED Unyielding Sentinel
21 Grandmaster of Forms
24 Bulwark of Defense or Improved Feint
26 Epic Mage Armor
27 Epic Reflexes
28 Holy Strike

Note: I might change what Class I take at 19-20 simply to get a different past life

[unbongwah]

Unless you really want Wholeness of Body (or monk PL), I suggest rog 8 / monk 6 instead of Imp Uncanny Dodge & a few more skill pts.

[Failedlegend]

Unless you really want Wholeness of Body (or monk PL), I suggest rog 8 / monk 6 instead of Imp Uncanny Dodge & a few more skill pts.

Partially after Monk PL hence why I'm actually thinking of Monk8/Rogue6/Paladin6 b changing Lvl 19 & 20 but Improved Uncanny Dodge is very tempting

[Failedlegend]

anyone else?

[Failedlegend]

Considering dropping Paladin down to 3 levels since the stance has been shifted to level 3 and the paladin aura change (see lammania known issues) since this builds charisma will be relatively low. (compared to a Sorc18/Pally2)

The likely build will be Rogue11/Monk6/Pally3 for the extra SA, skill points and the special rogue feat (likely opportunist)

Level Order: Rogue 1, Monk2-4, Paladin5- 7, Rogue 8 - 11, Monk 12 - 14, Rogue 15-20

[Munkenmo]

Why not 4 paladin? you'll qualify for turn undead (ie. divine might) & metamagics with 4 pally levels.

If you want the monk pastlife :
A 9monk (improved evasion) 7rogue, 4paladin seems like a pretty good split.

If you wanted to lean more towards rogue:
10rogue (bonus feat) 6monk, 4paladin seems good too.

I was tempted to stop at 3 pally, but 11th rogue vs 4 paladin is effectively 1d6 sneak attack vs divine might & metas.

[Failedlegend]

Why not 4 paladin? you'll qualify for turn undead (ie. divine might) & metamagics with 4 pally levels.

If you want the monk pastlife :
A 9monk (improved evasion) 7rogue, 4paladin seems like a pretty good split.

If you wanted to lean more towards rogue:
10rogue (bonus feat) 6monk, 4paladin seems good too.

I was tempted to stop at 3 pally, but 11th rogue vs 4 paladin is effectively 1d6 sneak attack vs divine might & metas.

If it was only divine might vs 1d6 sneak attack it would be a no brainer since this build has no use for strength that said I don't want to lose empowered healing so Rogue10/Monk6/Pally4 is likely the way I'm gonna go, thanks for pointing that out

[Blackheartox]

If going dex based, you could drop your 2 skill focuses and get some ranged power and take shuri expertise from monk feats and 10k.
Seems overall to have multiple feats that seem like a poor choice

Also, from personal testing and playing of dex based mell builds i can tell that they are really weak.
I would go halfling, but dex based and look at halfling only as source of heals.
Better would be human, get a free feat str based heal amp etc etc.
But halflings are super cute so yea i prefer halfie as well, just not as a dex based melle

[Failedlegend]

If going dex based, you could drop your 2 skill focuses and get some ranged power and take shuri expertise from monk feats and 10k.
Seems overall to have multiple feats that seem like a poor choice

Also, from personal testing and playing of dex based mell builds i can tell that they are really weak.
I would go halfling, but dex based and look at halfling only as source of heals.
Better would be human, get a free feat str based heal amp etc etc.
But halflings are super cute so yea i prefer halfie as well, just not as a dex based melle

Sorry but what would 10k stars/shuri expertise do for me...I can't throw my staff?

If you mean to suggest that I should use 10kstars every time it;s off cool down between melee, I view that as abusing the feat so I won't build a character that way.

As for Dex-Based, I've played several lives as non-str based builds, damage wise its a bit behind yes but gains enhanced defense in exchange. (not to mention TA abilities are dex based)

Otherwise feel free to suggest feats relevant to the build

[unbongwah]

If you mean to suggest that I should use 10kstars every time it;s off cool down between melee, I view that as abusing the feat so I won't build a character that way.

Err, why would it be "abusing the feat" to use it as intended? It's no different from a Tempest who whips out a bow to take advantage of Manyshot, then switches back to TWF while it's on CD.

[Failedlegend]

Err, why would it be "abusing the feat" to use it as intended? It's no different from a Tempest who whips out a bow to take advantage of Manyshot, then switches back to TWF while it's on CD.

Yes and imo it shouldn't work that way so I don't want to make builds that use that, it doesn't feel right to me and if a build doesn't feel right its not fun for me to play