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    Quote Originally Posted by Krelar View Post
    Has anyone checked to see if this is gone from the new build? Also, does it get uninstalled if you already have it or do I have to do that myself?
    In this new Lamannia build, if you previously had Akamai Netsession installed, you can now uninstall it. When you launch your Lamannia client after that, Akamai will be re-installed, but the Peer to Peer aspect of it will be disabled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    In this new Lamannia build, if you previously had Akamai Netsession installed, you can now uninstall it. When you launch your Lamannia client after that, Akamai will be re-installed, but the Peer to Peer aspect of it will be disabled.
    It still launch two processes that eats up 15Mb and some CPU cycle. It still keeps being reinstalled as you say.
    The two processes can still be killed when the client download the update, so there is no reason for them to be there.

    Can't you just get totally rid of it ? What is the reason that made yet another third party software mandatory ?

    Edit : after reading what is written in the about : you don't need such kind of technology, nowadays the bottleneck is the DSL/Cable line of the end customer, and no technology in the world is going to change that, since most of the time they are throttled by the operators.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flavilandile View Post
    It still launch two processes that eats up 15Mb and some CPU cycle. It still keeps being reinstalled as you say.
    The two processes can still be killed when the client download the update, so there is no reason for them to be there.

    Can't you just get totally rid of it ? What is the reason that made yet another third party software mandatory ?

    Edit : after reading what is written in the about : you don't need such kind of technology, nowadays the bottleneck is the DSL/Cable line of the end customer, and no technology in the world is going to change that, since most of the time they are throttled by the operators.
    I'm hoping this is just what they were able to do in a week and that the eventual plan is to either completely remove it or at least have it only launch during updates and then close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    In this new Lamannia build, if you previously had Akamai Netsession installed, you can now uninstall it. When you launch your Lamannia client after that, Akamai will be re-installed, but the Peer to Peer aspect of it will be disabled.
    So if we choose to populate Lammannia then we are stuck with Akamai in one incarnation or another?

    Thanks, but no thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krelar View Post
    I'm hoping this is just what they were able to do in a week and that the eventual plan is to either completely remove it or at least have it only launch during updates and then close.
    From what I've seen the processes are worse than AwesomiumProcess.exe... They are forked at launcher startup and they stay there, even after you have left the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    In this new Lamannia build, if you previously had Akamai Netsession installed, you can now uninstall it. When you launch your Lamannia client after that, Akamai will be re-installed, but the Peer to Peer aspect of it will be disabled.
    How about this; if this goes live, I will be in touch with my state attorney general's office, informing them that you are installing a known virus with the DDO client. I will also be notifying every media outlet I can think of.

    If it installs without my knowledge or permission, it is a virus. Period. If you continue to reinstall it without my permission, I hold you as a criminal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azrael4h View Post
    How about this; if this goes live, I will be in touch with my state attorney general's office, informing them that you are installing a known virus with the DDO client. I will also be notifying every media outlet I can think of.

    If it installs without my knowledge or permission, it is a virus. Period. If you continue to reinstall it without my permission, I hold you as a criminal.
    Seriously, all I could think of when I read this was:
    "You're like a toothless old Grishnar cat trying to frighten us with your roar."

    But yeah, Akamai, although not a bad concept, is a piece of junk I've had to deal with in the past. Evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus-Hawkeye View Post
    Seriously, all I could think of when I read this was:
    "You're like a toothless old Grishnar cat trying to frighten us with your roar."

    But yeah, Akamai, although not a bad concept, is a piece of junk I've had to deal with in the past. Evil.
    This toothless old cat has gotten more than a few people fired for pulling **** like this. Turbine isn't quite as able to bribe their way out of trouble as Home Depot, Nissan Motor Corporation etc... are.

    Currently notifying the Federal Trade Commission on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azrael4h View Post
    This toothless old cat has gotten more than a few people fired for pulling **** like this. Turbine isn't quite as able to bribe their way out of trouble as Home Depot, Nissan Motor Corporation etc... are.

    Currently notifying the Federal Trade Commission on this.
    Wow. Just.... wow. I think someone needs a nap... but go ahead, I'm sure they need a good laugh now and again.

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    that program reminds me of what "real player" did to people systems... . .

    this, comeing from a person that bought the new 3d max and the new corel, just to use the old stuff.. .
    i just hope they figure out that akamai is a pile of beholder ****
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    Quote Originally Posted by azrael4h View Post
    This toothless old cat has gotten more than a few people fired for pulling **** like this. Turbine isn't quite as able to bribe their way out of trouble as Home Depot, Nissan Motor Corporation etc... are.

    Currently notifying the Federal Trade Commission on this.
    Lol, overreact much?

    Good Luck, Eliot Ness. I bet the FTC really gonna drop the hammer on Turbine for this mortal offense they've caused you.

    If you don't like how they've chosen to distribute their software, don't download it. Acting like you're some sort of cyber crusader against bloatware is a bit misguided. They're just trying to increase DL speeds. And they said it's getting taken out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AtomicMew View Post
    Awesomium is NOT working correctly, how about you stop spreading misinformation. I provided proof that awesomium was spiking CPU usage very high every few seconds. So even though average CPU usage is low, it is extremely detrimental, especially for people who are sensitive to stutter (the reason it was detected in the first place) or people with lower end machines.

    The loading time with and without awesomium is also statistically significant, but to be fair that may be WAI. The CPU spike is clearly not WAI though.
    Awesomium works the same way on every game that I play (they almost all use it). Either world-class development teams building AAA MMOs don't know what they're doing, or you don't know what you're talking about. I know which one I"m going with....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProducerRowan View Post
    This code was released without the proper controls or opt-in. Our next update will remove the downloader while we review options to improve download speed and technology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jalont View Post
    Awesomium works the same way on every game that I play (they almost all use it). Either world-class development teams building AAA MMOs don't know what they're doing, or you don't know what you're talking about. I know which one I"m going with....
    Right, because developers never ever make mistakes.

    The fact is, awesomium takes up significant CPU time at regular intervals. Whether this is WAI, not WAI or some sort of configuration error is irrelevant - it IS happening, whether you want to take your head out of the sand or not. The only reason it was discovered was because players on lower end machines experienced unexplained spikes, which, when awesomium was removed, disappeared. I also proved by showing process graphs that a single awesomium process was causing CPU spikes at regular intervals. Awesomium also causes the game to load slower by about 20-30% (which I tested on multiple machines).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jalont View Post
    Awesomium works the same way on every game that I play (they almost all use it). Either world-class development teams building AAA MMOs don't know what they're doing, or you don't know what you're talking about. I know which one I"m going with....
    Humm, GW2, and Neverwinter and other programs only seem to need 1 instance instead of 7. Considering Turbines recent track record with this Akamai software and the ice pyramid thing on live I know who I'm going with...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProducerRowan View Post
    This code was released without the proper controls or opt-in. Our next update will remove the downloader while we review options to improve download speed and technology.
    So another build and this is still here.

    Can we get a good reason why this program needs to startup at boot time and continue running the entire time?

    If you are going to keep it at the least it should only start when the DDO launcher does and it should stop as soon as it is done doing whatever it is it does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krelar View Post
    So another build and this is still here.

    Can we get a good reason why this program needs to startup at boot time and continue running the entire time?

    If you are going to keep it at the least it should only start when the DDO launcher does and it should stop as soon as it is done doing whatever it is it does.
    /Signed for not wanting any part of this(Akamai Netsession) with DDO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krelar View Post
    So another build and this is still here.

    Can we get a good reason why this program needs to startup at boot time and continue running the entire time?

    If you are going to keep it at the least it should only start when the DDO launcher does and it should stop as soon as it is done doing whatever it is it does.
    Please listen to this. See what happened with Pando - we don't need more of these kinds of programs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dandonk View Post
    Please listen to this. See what happened with Pando - we don't need more of these kinds of programs.
    I don't know what you're talking about. I enjoy when programs that Turbine requires try to install viruses on my computer. It's the best part of my day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProducerRowan View Post
    This code was released without the proper controls or opt-in. Our next update will remove the downloader while we review options to improve download speed and technology.
    Just an FYI to the forum: These technologies are to allow faster download, configuration, and installation of the game you want.

    Why people are seeing it everywhere? Because they are making agreements and keeping peer to peer safe so we can get more done witht he limited infrastructure that exists without having to lay new cable and hardware.

    Why soo many processes in my task manager? Mainly to bypass the one setup running at a time limit for most application installers.

    Why for you sound like Akamai *****? Mainly because it makes sense from a company perspective to buy a plugin applet that gets the job done better, for less, than developing or improving your own.

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