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    Quote Originally Posted by murf201 View Post
    Really all i play is my ranger , That bow will never be as good as a pinion , Crit range says all !!!!! + planar sets .

    Im really more happy with non crafted named weapons at this point from what im seeing
    From what has been shown, it seems to be that the Devs are purposely doing this.
    Weapons that do damage primarily from its base damage favors very large hits from stacking every possible multiplier. (5x Crits * 4x Multishot * 4x Adrenaline Overload Bonus = 80 x damage)
    It's a technically a nerf to Monkchers by buffing everyone else's damage by 50-100% using a mechanic that totally ignores critical multipliers and adrenaline overload 300% bonus.

    These weapons seem to be doing their damage primarily from elemental procs ~ 130 dmg per hit.


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    No shuriken? That sucks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzt14 View Post
    Dragon's Blessing: On Friend-Targeted Spell Cast: 5% chance of AOE Healing Effect (~100HP) centered on target (AOE is size of Mass Cure spells).
    Additional Cost: 75 Fire Dragon Scales, 25 Shadow Dragon Scales
    This needs to be tested out with grease. Just saying.


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    Eternal Scorching Light: On Light / Fire Spell Damage: +50 temp SP 30 seconds (triggers once per 45 seconds).
    Additional Cost: 200 Fire Dragon Scales, 25 (or 30 typo?) Fire Dragon Souls
    Eternal Chilling Darkness: On Negative / Cold Spell Damage: +50 temp SP 30 seconds (triggers once per 45 seconds).
    Additional Cost: 200 Shadow Dragon Scales, 25 (or 30 typo?) Shadow Dragon Souls
    Wonder if these work with shiradri procs, or if it has to be a spell you cast yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Takllin View Post
    Yeah there is a big difference between the top damage weapons and everything else is ridiculous.

    I'd really hope this is not a GS 2.0 where everyone has Rapiers, Khopeshes or Greataxes with the occasional Bastard Sword/Greatsword user.
    Wont be gs 2.0 because they are ml 28.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan_Milic View Post
    Wont be gs 2.0 because they are ml 28.
    Ummm what? Just because you can't use them until 28 is irrelevant.

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    Again no trhower weapon added, no shuriken why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanhooger View Post
    Again no trhower weapon added, no shuriken why?
    It is in the Alpha stage remember, but seriously all weapon/shield types need to be added. Pigeon holing us into a few kinds of weapons is awful design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takllin View Post
    Ummm what? Just because you can't use them until 28 is irrelevant.
    Why bother with it when most of the people will be going for epic completionist.

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    I would like to see, some "fresh" effects to the loot other than on hit that damage or on vorpal that other damage. I don't know, i would like to see something like: on hit you gain +1 strengh for 2 secs (stacks 5/10... times) and on vorpal you gain 5 or 10 (stacks and duration in the same way as the others). That would be fun, would add damage and aid to the tacticals DC... its an example but always add damage is boring...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Takllin View Post
    True I dunno how these shape up to citw weapons but if these end up being the new top tier weapons it goes back to what green steel was like.

    I'd love to use new weapons but it's hard to see how they make new ones that are better especially with planar set.
    Even if it works out to being SLIGHTLY better . . . it's still a waste of time do to the (I'm assuming) high minimum level.

    Who stays at cap these day? The game is ETRing for the foresable future. You get way more utility off of min-level 23 stuff.

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    lol, haha, the lvl 14 deathnip will still out dps the lvl 28 ww heavy pick, thats just pathetic.

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    If they lower the ML on the Weapons to 26, then they are just as bad as Greensteel. I am curious in the acquisition rate for the scales, even at the place holder values
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan_Milic View Post
    Why bother with it when most of the people will be going for epic completionist.
    Because it's going to be the best weapons in the game? Thats just like why does anyone want anything that was ever end game when they can be going for Past Lives or Completionist.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takllin View Post
    Because it's going to be the best weapons in the game? Thats just like why does anyone want anything that was ever end game when they can be going for Past Lives or Completionist.....
    Lol, they will not be the best weapons in game, maybe for casters, for melee or ranged, nop.


    Quote Originally Posted by Atremus View Post
    If they lower the ML on the Weapons to 26, then they are just as bad as Greensteel. I am curious in the acquisition rate for the scales, even at the place holder values
    They either need to lower them to 23, or make them 5 times better.
    Otherwise I wont bother with it, just like I didnt bother with house c raids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan_Milic View Post
    Lol, they will not be the best weapons in game, maybe for casters, for melee or ranged, nop.
    You realize this is an Alpha release right? None of this is even remotely set in stone.

    And off base damage ratings, these are all better than what we have currently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takllin View Post
    You realize this is an Alpha release right? None of this is even remotely set in stone.

    And off base damage ratings, these are all better than what we have currently.
    YOu realize 4.2k vcomm was also needed in alpha for epic heart, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan_Milic View Post
    YOu realize 4.2k vcomm was also needed in alpha for epic heart, right?
    And you realize that they drastically changed how you get Commendations of Valor right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takllin View Post
    And you realize that they drastically changed how you get Commendations of Valor right?
    And you realize they didnt change 4.2k vcomm for eheart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takllin View Post
    You realize this is an Alpha release right? None of this is even remotely set in stone.

    And off base damage ratings, these are all better than what we have currently.
    I'll continue to believe they will be as useless as described until some changes are actually made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan_Milic View Post
    And you realize they didnt change 4.2k vcomm for eheart?
    I can keep going back and forth with you, but it's a waste of my time. Good day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Teh_Troll
    Even if it works out to being SLIGHTLY better . . . it's still a waste of time do to the (I'm assuming) high minimum level.

    Who stays at cap these day? The game is ETRing for the foresable future. You get way more utility off of min-level 23 stuff.
    I have friends who have many toons they don't eTR, or are fast enough at it that they stay at cap for a while afterwards. Plus its new content that we get to run.

    Cap is also expanding to 30 later this year(hopefully).

    Also not everyone likes the grinding that is epic TR.

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