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    Dynok TR5  
    Level 20 True Neutral Dwarf Male
    (12 Fighter \ 2 Rogue \ 6 Ranger) 
    Hit Points: 352
    Spell Points: 110 
    BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
    Fortitude: 18
    Reflex: 20
    Will: 10
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             15                    24
    Dexterity            15                    22
    Constitution         14                    20
    Intelligence         14                    19
    Wisdom               14                    19
    Charisma             10                    15
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
    +4 Tome of Strength used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Charisma used at level 15
    +5 Tome of Strength used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Constitution used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Intelligence used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Wisdom used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Charisma used at level 19
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               6                    15
    Bluff                 0                     2
    Concentration         2                     7
    Diplomacy             0                     2
    Disable Device        6                    29
    Haggle                1                     3
    Heal                  4                     6
    Hide                  2                     6
    Intimidate            0                     2
    Jump                  6                    16
    Listen                6                    12
    Move Silently         2                     6
    Open Lock             6                    18
    Perform               n/a                   n/a
    Repair                2                     7
    Search                5                    27
    Spellcraft            2                     4
    Spot                  6                    25
    Swim                  5                    11
    Tumble                3                     7
    Use Magic Device      4                    20
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+4)
    Skill: Disable Device (+4)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+2)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Listen (+4)
    Skill: Open Lock (+4)
    Skill: Search (+3)
    Skill: Spot (+4)
    Skill: Swim (+3)
    Skill: Tumble (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Druid
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
    Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
    Feat: (Automatic) Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stability
    Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stonecutting
    Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
    Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
    Feat: (Automatic) Orc and Goblin Bonus
    Feat: (Automatic) Poison Save Bonus
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
    Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Spell Save Bonus
    Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding
    
    
    Level 2 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+2)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
    Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
    Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Dwarven Waraxe
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
    Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
    Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
    Feat: (Automatic) Trip
    Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy
    
    
    Level 3 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
    Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 4 (Ranger)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+2)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Diehard
    
    
    Level 5 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Precise Shot
    
    
    Level 6 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Listen (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Dodge
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
    Feat: (Automatic) Archer's Focus
    Feat: (Automatic) Improved Heroic Durability
    
    
    Level 7 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Listen (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Swim (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Manyshot
    
    
    Level 8 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Mobility
    Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency
    
    
    Level 9 (Fighter)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Spring Attack
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
    
    
    Level 10 (Fighter)
    Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
    Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
    Skill: Search (+0.5)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 11 (Fighter)
    Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
    Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
    Skill: Search (+0.5)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 12 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+2)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Search (+2)
    Skill: Spot (+2)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Critical
    Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
    
    
    Level 13 (Fighter)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 14 (Fighter)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 15 (Fighter)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Fighter)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Ranged Weapons
    
    
    Level 17 (Fighter)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 18 (Fighter)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot
    
    
    Level 19 (Fighter)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    
    
    Level 20 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+2)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Dwarf - Dwarven Toughness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Dwarf - Dwarven Constitution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Dwarf - Dwarven Toughness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Dwarf - Axe Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Dwarf - Dwarven Armor Mastery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Dwarf - Axe Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Focus: Axes (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Spiritual Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strike With No Thought (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Power Surge (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Axes (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Reed in the Wind (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Axes (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Improved Dodge (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Improved Dodge (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Agility (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Agility (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Axes (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Critical Damage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Critical Damage (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Arbalester (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Mechanics (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Mechanics (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Mechanics (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Awareness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Awareness (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Skill Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Skill Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Shield of Whirling Steel (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Tempest (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Item Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Reaction (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Dodge (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Bleed Them Out (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Bleed Them Out (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Damage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Damage (Rank 2)
    Was trying for a mixed melee and ranged DPS with rogue trapping abilities. Any helpful suggestions welcome.

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    I did put this in correct spot right?

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    why so high on wisdom?

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    Swap dwarf for human.
    Ditch toughness.
    Wisdom is a dump stat.
    Go 16str, 15dex, 16con, 14cha, 14int

    2 weapon spec lines is quite a poor idea, especially when you dont have Improved critical ranged or slashing.
    Using the stats ive shown you qualify for ips at 19.

    Too many skill points in jump, youll get max jump from your str score + the ranger spell, dump the skill.

    No point maxing spot over search, if you cant search a trap box or secret door, spotting it is useless.

    Dont put half ranks into skills whilst levelling up, get a whole skill point for some skills one level, then others next.

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    Missing PA (!) and cleaves, those should be your first 3 feats regardless if you building for cap or just TR build.
    Maybe fit SF:UMD somewhere for earlier scrollage ?
    There are much better feats than Power Critical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fTdOmen View Post
    Swap dwarf for human.
    Ditch toughness.
    Wisdom is a dump stat.
    Go 16str, 15dex, 16con, 14cha, 14int

    2 weapon spec lines is quite a poor idea, especially when you dont have Improved critical ranged or slashing.
    Using the stats ive shown you qualify for ips at 19.

    Too many skill points in jump, youll get max jump from your str score + the ranger spell, dump the skill.

    No point maxing spot over search, if you cant search a trap box or secret door, spotting it is useless.

    Dont put half ranks into skills whilst levelling up, get a whole skill point for some skills one level, then others next.
    A lot here of what Omen said.

    I was also add, since you don't have monk levels. The main reason for going the weapon spec lines to get get centered with any weapon does not make a lot of sense.

    I would drop some of the weapon spec feats for Power Attack, Cleave and Great Cleave. Definitely drop Power Critical as well to pick up these.

    You will get lot's more damage output and against multiple targets with the cleave lines than you will with Weapon Spec lines and the Enhancement lines.

    If you are doing Dwarf for flavor then kewlio. But If you are going dwarf no sense in not going Fighter and Dwarven Tactics. +6 to trips and sunders is nothing to sneeze at and part of the good reason to get Dwarf.
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    Is this just for a ftr PL; or do you plan to run epics? It affects whether you build for heroic XP farming or for lvl 20+.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzermeyer View Post
    The main reason for going the weapon spec lines to get get centered with any weapon does not make a lot of sense.
    WF/WS/GWF are still pre-reqs for Keen Edge (+1 crit range); although why OP didn't take Keen Edge is a mystery to me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    WF/WS/GWF are still pre-reqs for Keen Edge (+1 crit range); although why OP didn't take Keen Edge is a mystery to me...
    Thus it doesn't make sense. Forgot about Keen Edge, but regardless. The need for these is either (or both) for keen edge or being centered. Neither of which he takes or qualifies for. Thus the cleave lines will provide him with more benefit.
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    With 14 feats (7 heroic + 7 ftr), that's enough for Power Atk, Cleave, GC, IC:Slash, GTWF, WF/WS/GWF/GWS:Slash, PBS, and IPS with 3 left over to round things out.

    As for Enhancements, I'd put at least 31 APs into Kensei for Keen Edge & Power Surge (plus all pre-reqs) and 6 APs into Tempest for core enh (+10% offhand).
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    TY all for your advice, will makes some changes. Was not sure on some of the feats.

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