Best Righteous-Focused options

[Lifespawn]

yep i'll get the info and make a post when I can get online to nail all feats down I really wanted to get as and righteous in the same build and this build is doing it all sofar saves are not the best high 50's on fort and low 50's on ref and will but I'm not done leveling or gearing hitting the 70's won't happen but high 50's low 60's can happen


the main thing with my build is I have so many options for healing that it's not an issue I do wish I could make it 8 cleric 6 ftr but then I lose weapon spec which hurts but I might do it anyway in a tr because having freedom and dw would be great.

[Nodoze]

yep i'll get the info and make a post when I can get online to nail all feats down I really wanted to get as and righteous in the same build and this build is doing it all sofar saves are not the best high 50's on fort and low 50's on ref and will but I'm not done leveling or gearing hitting the 70's won't happen but high 50's low 60's can happen


the main thing with my build is I have so many options for healing that it's not an issue I do wish I could make it 8 cleric 6 ftr but then I lose weapon spec which hurts but I might do it anyway in a tr because having freedom and dw would be great.

Cool and sounds fun. I will add it to the list I am compiling to put in the 2nd/3rd reserved post above and try to put a link to it so people can find it easily at the top of the thread.

Thanks in advance !

[Lifespawn]

here you go been a busy couple of days sorry it took so long to get it posted


https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...35#post5218635

[Nodoze]

here you go been a busy couple of days sorry it took so long to get it posted


https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...35#post5218635

No worries.

I updated the link in the list of builds in post 2 and replaced 'un-named build' with 'The Divine Vessel'.

Thanks for sharing and I like the name.

Gave you +1 but wish I could give more !

[emptysands]

- Tempest: Tier4 Whirling Blades gives +4hit/+4damage when TWF, but more importantly, if TWF, Core4 at Ranger level 12 gives you +20% off-hand attacks so 100% off-hand attacks with the full TWF feats while other classes can only get 80% off-hand attacks plus Ranger 11 gives you the TWF feats for "free"... Other benefits include essentially Improved Evasion via Evasive dance, Deflect Arrows, Improved Parry, etc.

- Others?: Haven't really studied the barbarian, or other trees much (yet)...

Nice breakdown, something I'm interested in as well.

Monks also get a +10% off-hand strike tier 1 enhancement - Deft Strikes. I've been told it stacks with the Ranger bonus.

So potentially any combination of 3 ranger/1 monk could get 100% off hand.

[Nodoze]

Nice breakdown, something I'm interested in as well.

Monks also get a +10% off-hand strike tier 1 enhancement - Deft Strikes. I've been told it stacks with the Ranger bonus.

So potentially any combination of 3 ranger/1 monk could get 100% off hand.

Good point. 100% is 100%. With only so many AP and levels to spread around listing the options are good. I will try to update the Intial Posts (IP) to denote that.

[kuro_zero]

Hoping this thread isn't dead as its a very good discussion and one I've mulling over for awhile. Original thought was Elf using longswords with Whirling Steel Strike but the feat intensive nature of WSS and lackluster options for Longswords made me rethink it.

Currently I'm thinking about Sun Elf (the what? oh that other iconic that was released). Favored weapon is heavy mace. As such it limits options to Phospher from necro tome page turn in (at work or I'd post a link) but looking at rapier critical range with a nice sun burst proc.

Not sure of class split but thinking rog for evasion and sneak die to make use of Sunburst blindness and +LRing out of cleric for FvS for shield of condemnation and synergy with 50%/100% build idea (search forum, again sry at work or I'd link). Ranger for feats and manyshot option.

Couldn't think of how to bring monk into the build and stay centered as would have preferred monk over rogue for the feats.

EDIT: Looks like sun burst proc has a fairly low save so relying on it to blind not feasible. Maybe splash monk for the feats and forego trying to stay centered - y'know, oldschool.

[Nodoze]

Hoping this thread isn't dead as its a very good discussion and one I've mulling over for awhile. Original thought was Elf using longswords with Whirling Steel Strike but the feat intensive nature of WSS and lackluster options for Longswords made me rethink it.

Currently I'm thinking about Sun Elf (the what? oh that other iconic that was released). Favored weapon is heavy mace. As such it limits options to Phospher from necro tome page turn in (at work or I'd post a link) but looking at rapier critical range with a nice sun burst proc.

Not sure of class split but thinking rog for evasion and sneak die to make use of Sunburst blindness and +LRing out of cleric for FvS for shield of condemnation and synergy with 50%/100% build idea (search forum, again sry at work or I'd link). Ranger for feats and manyshot option.

Couldn't think of how to bring monk into the build and stay centered as would have preferred monk over rogue for the feats.

EDIT: Looks like sun burst proc has a fairly low save so relying on it to blind not feasible. Maybe splash monk for the feats and forego trying to stay centered - y'know, oldschool.

I think many people are still working with Righteous options....

My buddy and I are still playing the Warforged Greatsword Righteous/Focused build (sadly not TWF for the dual AS procs) and I am thinking of changing our PDK/Charisma 20FvS (AoV/WarPriest+100% damage build) into a HE FvS with Righteous Weapons which could be Scimitars or LongSwords (though LongSwords could be centered fairly easily)...

Compared to something like "Whirlwind Attack" I don't think that "Whirling Steel Strike" is too Feat intensive especially depending on your classes/race...

If you like the idea of "Righteously Centered TWF" I would study the mechanics & feat requirements in this build:

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...35#post5218635

If WSS is still too much of a barrier, if you go Kensei I don't think you need WSS and can use pretty much any weapons... In addition to WSS, I believe you can also be "Righteously Centered TWF" without Kensei fairly easily as a Drow using Righteous Shortswords with the Ninja Spy enhancements; Ninja Spy may be synergystic with Rogue.

[kuro_zero]

I think many people are still working with Righteous options....

My buddy and I are still playing the Warforged Greatsword Righteous/Focused build (sadly not TWF for the dual AS procs) and I am thinking of changing our PDK/Charisma 20FvS (AoV/WarPriest+100% damage build) into a HE FvS with Righteous Weapons which could be Scimitars or LongSwords (though LongSwords could be centered fairly easily)...

Compared to something like "Whirlwind Attack" I don't think that "Whirling Steel Strike" is too Feat intensive especially depending on your classes/race...

If you like the idea of "Righteously Centered TWF" I would study the mechanics & feat requirements in this build:

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...35#post5218635

If WSS is still too much of a barrier, if you go Kensei I don't think you need WSS and can use pretty much any weapons... In addition to WSS, I believe you can also be "Righteously Centered TWF" without Kensei fairly easily as a Drow using Righteous Shortswords with the Ninja Spy enhancements; Ninja Spy may be synergystic with Rogue.

If righteous weapons didn't break Celestia's DR breaking it would be the obvious choice.

Another option I've been thinking about is WF/BF greatsword concentrating on double strike for dual AS proc. Rog for killer, Druid for DS action boost or possibly wiz/sorc for passive DS .

[Nodoze]

If righteous weapons didn't break Celestia's DR breaking it would be the obvious choice.

Another option I've been thinking about is WF/BF greatsword concentrating on double strike for dual AS proc. Rog for killer, Druid for DS action boost or possibly wiz/sorc for passive DS .

Please post if you decide on a build. Interested in how high a double-strike you can get with a GS though I would say BF is likely very superior to WF due to the SLA unless you already have a deep enough Artificer or Wiz/sorc splash to get reconstruct another way (or divine splash for Heal).

I also updated the Initial Post (IP) and tweaked the other initially reserved posts for clarity after re-reading them. In particular I denoted that you don't need to go so deep into Ranger to level 12 to get +20% off-hand strikes as you can pick up +10% twice for +20% with only 3+Ranger & 1+ Monk (with only 6AP in Tempest & only 7AP in Shintao).

[Saekee]

hi Nodoze, how are these righteous weapon builds developing along? Also, could you please post the Drow 12 FVS/6 monk/2 (paladin?) build? I know it is not optimal due to issues with Celestia, but I might try it since I have lots of nice shortswords. Thanks.

Also, on a side note, if people are using TWF and monk levels for ameliorating strike, they might consider the tier 5 henshin mystic approach instead--Shadows Cannot Exist without the Light. It heals for 100 hp (cannot be buffed upward) and has a cooldown of only 6 seconds. Just needs a little ki...Also Henshin mystics can tap into ALL the monk finishing moves for buffs and debuffs.

[Saekee]

Also, have you seen Kalevor's The Akuma build? His use of healing shield and the Tier 5 Magic Backlash is sending everything he punches on their backs.
For this reason, builds created around ameliorating strike could add the monk healing shield for DPS. Kalevor wrote this:

Like you can see, i've not picked stunning fist or stunning blow, but still i've stated that this build has the one on one "perfect stuning", let me explain it.

First we have monk's light move:
Fists of Light [from the ddowiki]
Cooldown: 3 seconds
Usage: Active
Prerequisite: Monk level 3, Path of Harmonious Balance, 10 ki
Description:
On a successful melee hit, an enemy receives a healing shield for approximately 10 seconds. Any melee hit on the affected creature by you or or allies heals them with 1D2 HP per strike.
Explanation: If you curse an enemy with this, they actually heal you for a 1d2hp, i mean they use a healing effect on you, every time you hit them... How they dare!!!

And now, from the ddowiki too:
Magic Backlash: When an enemy damages you with a spell, there is a 10%/20%/30% chance they will be knocked down. (Does not affect bosses.)

In short, that combo allows you to curse an enemy that every time you hit him has a 30% to be knock down to the ground (it's helpless).
Considering the attack speed of an unarmed monk, the 90% off-hand and the doublestrike chance for both hands, the probability that you "stun" a mob is VERY high... it works always for me and almost instantly. It's the "perfect stunning".
Also, the cooldown is 3 secs, half the time of the stuning fist and has a cost in ki 50% lower.
Also, it works with EVERYTHING (constructs, undead, elementals...).

[Nodoze]

Also, have you seen Kalevor's The Akuma build? His use of healing shield and the Tier 5 Magic Backlash is sending everything he punches on their backs.
For this reason, builds created around ameliorating strike could add the monk healing shield for DPS. Kalevor wrote this:

Like you can see, i've not picked stunning fist or stunning blow, but still i've stated that this build has the one on one "perfect stuning", let me explain it.

First we have monk's light move:
Fists of Light [from the ddowiki]
Cooldown: 3 seconds
Usage: Active
Prerequisite: Monk level 3, Path of Harmonious Balance, 10 ki
Description:
On a successful melee hit, an enemy receives a healing shield for approximately 10 seconds. Any melee hit on the affected creature by you or or allies heals them with 1D2 HP per strike.
Explanation: If you curse an enemy with this, they actually heal you for a 1d2hp, i mean they use a healing effect on you, every time you hit them... How they dare!!!

And now, from the ddowiki too:
Magic Backlash: When an enemy damages you with a spell, there is a 10%/20%/30% chance they will be knocked down. (Does not affect bosses.)

In short, that combo allows you to curse an enemy that every time you hit him has a 30% to be knock down to the ground (it's helpless).
Considering the attack speed of an unarmed monk, the 90% off-hand and the doublestrike chance for both hands, the probability that you "stun" a mob is VERY high... it works always for me and almost instantly. It's the "perfect stunning".
Also, the cooldown is 3 secs, half the time of the stuning fist and has a cost in ki 50% lower.
Also, it works with EVERYTHING (constructs, undead, elementals...).

Thanks for pointing that out. I have enough trouble keeping up with all the threads that I subscribe to such that I often miss new threads.

Don't know if that combo is WAI but it certainly is novel. I plan to update the above thread and add it to the list.

EDIT: Added the Akuma to list in the 2nd post in this thread.

[Nodoze]

hi Nodoze, how are these righteous weapon builds developing along? Also, could you please post the Drow 12 FVS/6 monk/2 (paladin?) build? I know it is not optimal due to issues with Celestia, but I might try it since I have lots of nice shortswords. Thanks.

Also, on a side note, if people are using TWF and monk levels for ameliorating strike, they might consider the tier 5 henshin mystic approach instead--Shadows Cannot Exist without the Light. It heals for 100 hp (cannot be buffed upward) and has a cooldown of only 6 seconds. Just needs a little ki...Also Henshin mystics can tap into ALL the monk finishing moves for buffs and debuffs.

Saekee, Thanks for asking and I think many players are still enjoying playing various builds incorporating Ameliorating Strikes with various synergistic combos.

I can't speak for the author's of the other threads I linked above regarding whether or not they are still playing their builds (obviously the Akuma build is active but I am not sure on the rest). In addition to the Akuma I can say my kids and I are still playing the following 2 AS builds:

• Nodoze's un-Righteous-AS Fvs20 PDK TWF (The +100%/50% damage builds - HE PDK variant) [Note: Could maybe be Righteous with Longswords but the build is built on dual Celestia's for thematic purposes and would lose +100% melee light damage]: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5217335 ; Note: I had planned on LR+X'ing this 36 point build to include at least Paladin-2 for EE but my kids and I liked the build as is and didn't want to lose the sun-bolt capstone nor grind for Displacement clickies so we left this build as is and I did the following build instead:

• Nodoze's Righteous-AS Fv12/M6/P2 Elf TWF Longswords (The Debuffer 1st life melee build): https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...nd-friendly%29 (this 32 point build allowed me, with minimal grinding on a 1st lifer, to get something very survivable that could apply all the debuffs with strong AoE healing and not touch the above build my kids like so much);

I also have a ranged Elven 12FvS/6M/2P "Monker" variant that I am considering LRing the above into though I have to give up multiple things as the AP are tight and somethings require melee range... I will also try to do a Drow version that you can modify to your own desires. If you put a Drow build together before I can please post a link and I will try to give you feedback.