Can someone get me an AC breakdown?

[kierg10]

I've seen people saying they can hit 160-200ish sustained, etc etc. I want to know how.

Now, before U14 I used to be all like OMG MAX AC LOLOLOLOLOLOL CAN'T HIT ME even though I never achieved it.

But since it seemed to lose a LOT of it's power after U14, I casually forgot everything about it.

So now I'm asking simply: Can someone give me an AC breakdown on how to hit the 200 figure on a Fighter? More specifically, a 12 Fighter 6 Cleric 2 Druid S&B build in Dreadnought.

Or, better yet just tell me how to hit as much AC as I can.

32 (+50% from reinforced armour enhancement)=48 white dragon armour
+2 dex
+10 protection item
+10 natural armour item
+20 (+15% stalwart shield mastery enhancement)=23(+50% shield prowess from US)=34 madstone aegis
+3 stalwart defender
=107 base line
+5 unbreakable stance from US
+10 hardened from US
=122

I don't know every plus to AC, but there is some you can work off of happy questing

[peng]

<cracks knuckles>
<opens many ddowiki pages>
<pulls out calculator>

My computer is down atm so I can't double check everything, but assuming that the 20%, 10%, and 10% from grandmaster of earth, combat expertise, and eldritch knight mage armor sla stack...

Race: dwarf with +3 from armor mastery enhancement or halfling with +2 dex from race, +2 Dex from enhancements, and +1 ac size bonus

Class split: 15 monk (12 ac from levels, gm earth +20% ac, wis to ac), 2 pally (+6 ac from aura, +3 from enh), 1 sorc or wizard (ek mage armor sla +10% ac). 2 levels left to play around with

Notable gear: t3 flawless white dragon robe, +10 Nat armor and protection items, +11/3/1 Dex/wis items, Litany, ee master's riposte, alchemical Kama/shortsword/longsword with +2 alchemical wis, Yugo wis/dex pots, recitation scrolls, tenser's scrolls

Notable feats: whirling steel strike, two weapon defense, grandmaster of forms, combat expertise, completionist, epic mage armor, bulwark of defense, great wis/dex to even out stats

Enhancements:
eldr knight (4 ap spent): mage armor sla (+10% ac)
Sacred defender (8-14 ap): sacred armor mastery (+3 ac), bulwark aura (+5 ac), defense boost (5/10/15 ac)
Monk trees (44-56 ap): +4 or +5 to stats
Halfling OR dwarf (6 or 4 ap): +2 Dex cores OR armor mastery (+3 ac)

Destinies: unyielding sentinel: unbreakable stance (+5 ac), hardened (+10 ac)

Twists (29 fate points: 18 from EDs, 2 from tome, 9 from epic pl): paired parry (primal t4) (+5 ac), walking with waves (gmof t3) (+6 ac), lithe (shadowdancer t2) (+6 ac)

Past lives: completionist (+2 to stats), 9x martial passive epic pl (36 ac at lvl 20+)

Wisdom: 18 base + 7 levels + 5 tome + 11/3/1 item + 1 litany + 2 completionist + 5 enh + 1 great wis feats + 2 Yugo + 2 ship + 2 alch = 60
Dex: 18 base (20 halfling) (+2 halfling enh) - 2 earth stance + 5 tome + 10/3/1 item + 1 litany + 2 completionist + 2 Yugo + 2 ship + 4 alch (tenser's) = 46 (50 halfling)

Breakdown (dwarf):
10 base
25 wis
18 dex
12 monk lvls
6 paladin aura
3 sacred defender enh
3 dwarf enh
36 martial past lives
20 epic mage armor
7 shield (flawless white dragonscale)
10 protection
10 natural armor
2 luck (recitation)
3 ship buffs
4 bulwark of defense
1 two weapon defense
6 insight (master's riposte)
15 unyielding sentinel
17 twists
____________________________
= 208 + 20% gm earth + 10% combat expertise + 10% mage armor sla
= 291.2

208 + 15 boost + 40%
= 312.2

291 semi-sustainable (no store or limited availability consumables) self buffed, 312 while boosting

Not a very viable build, and requires a ridiculous amount of grind in the form of completionist and 9 epic past lives... but doable.

[LOOON375]

I'm just sick of the all or nothing aspect most people have.

That's the main problem with these forums and some of the posters. "no fail" becomes the one and only standard that matters. If you can't get AC to a point that you are being missed 100% of the time, "it's useless" and not worth building for. As far as Im concerned, if you can get it to a point that you are missed say 5% of the time against trash in EE, that's good enough ac for me. Especially since it is EE.

I build and play my toons to a point of what works or what I can get to work. I don't look to build for "no fail'. If anyone could get a no fail AC in EE content, then why the heck would they bother playing if they don't take any damage?

AC isn't broke IMHO. It just doesn't work near as well in EE content when compared to EN and EH. It is epic elite isn't it?

And if some players figured out a way to get a no fail AC without completely gimping their toons in other ways, they would come back to the forums crying how the game is too easy.

That's why I always suggest to people to just try different things out for themselves. Find out for yourself what in fact does work and what doesn't.

Good luck.

[Nightmanis]

<cracks knuckles>
<opens many ddowiki pages>
<pulls out calculator>

My computer is down atm so I can't double check everything, but assuming that the 20%, 10%, and 10% from grandmaster of earth, combat expertise, and eldritch knight mage armor sla stack...

Race: dwarf with +3 from armor mastery enhancement or halfling with +2 dex from race, +2 Dex from enhancements, and +1 ac size bonus

Class split: 15 monk (12 ac from levels, gm earth +20% ac, wis to ac), 2 pally (+6 ac from aura, +3 from enh), 1 sorc or wizard (ek mage armor sla +10% ac). 2 levels left to play around with

Notable gear: t3 flawless white dragon robe, +10 Nat armor and protection items, +11/3/1 Dex/wis items, Litany, ee master's riposte, alchemical Kama/shortsword/longsword with +2 alchemical wis, Yugo wis/dex pots, recitation scrolls, tenser's scrolls

Notable feats: whirling steel strike, two weapon defense, grandmaster of forms, combat expertise, completionist, epic mage armor, bulwark of defense, great wis/dex to even out stats

Enhancements:
eldr knight (4 ap spent): mage armor sla (+10% ac)
Sacred defender (8-14 ap): sacred armor mastery (+3 ac), bulwark aura (+5 ac), defense boost (5/10/15 ac)
Monk trees (44-56 ap): +4 or +5 to stats
Halfling OR dwarf (6 or 4 ap): +2 Dex cores OR armor mastery (+3 ac)

Destinies: unyielding sentinel: unbreakable stance (+5 ac), hardened (+10 ac)

Twists (29 fate points: 18 from EDs, 2 from tome, 9 from epic pl): paired parry (primal t4) (+5 ac), walking with waves (gmof t3) (+6 ac), lithe (shadowdancer t2) (+6 ac)

Past lives: completionist (+2 to stats), 9x martial passive epic pl (36 ac at lvl 20+)

Wisdom: 18 base + 7 levels + 5 tome + 11/3/1 item + 1 litany + 2 completionist + 5 enh + 1 great wis feats + 2 Yugo + 2 ship + 2 alch = 60
Dex: 18 base (20 halfling) (+2 halfling enh) - 2 earth stance + 5 tome + 10/3/1 item + 1 litany + 2 completionist + 2 Yugo + 2 ship + 4 alch (tenser's) = 46 (50 halfling)

Breakdown (dwarf):
10 base
25 wis
18 dex
12 monk lvls
6 paladin aura
3 sacred defender enh
3 dwarf enh
36 martial past lives
20 epic mage armor
7 shield (flawless white dragonscale)
10 protection
10 natural armor
2 luck (recitation)
3 ship buffs
4 bulwark of defense
1 two weapon defense
6 insight (master's riposte)
15 unyielding sentinel
17 twists
____________________________
= 208 + 20% gm earth + 10% combat expertise + 10% mage armor sla
= 291.2

208 + 15 boost + 40%
= 312.2

291 semi-sustainable (no store or limited availability consumables) self buffed, 312 while boosting

Not a very viable build, and requires a ridiculous amount of grind in the form of completionist and 9 epic past lives... but doable.

That's...umm.....well, that's a bit higher of a number than I was expecting.

However, from your list I can just pick and choose what I think will help me vs the build that I want to use.

312ac though, that's impressive. Not gonna lie.

[Nightmanis]

Well, switched to Firefox and have more editing options available suddenly. The following is my AC calculator tool. I'm not quite sure how the game does rounding, but my numbers are typically only off by 1 point, and I'm usually a point lower in my spreadsheet than the value in the game. But, this should at least help show some of the various sources for AC.

AC	AC Source	Notes
10	Base Armor
33	Armor Bonus	Heavy Armor - Flawless White Dragonplate Armor
17	Sacred Defender: Reinforced Armor (+50%)
60	Armor Sub Total
2	Armor Max Dex Bonus	Adjust down for max allowed by Tower Shield if shield is equiped
0	Sacred Defender Enhancement: Sacred Armor Mastery (+2 Armor Max Dex Bonus)	Do not calculate both sacred defender max dex bonuses. If wearing a Tower Shield, use the Tower Shield bonus. Otherwise, use the armor bonus.
3	Sacred Defender Enhancement: Sacred Shield Mastery (+3 Tower Shield Max Dex Bonus)	Do not calculate both sacred defender max dex bonuses. If wearing a Tower Shield, use the Tower Shield bonus. Otherwise, use the armor bonus.
5	Max Dex Bonus Total
65	Armor Total (Armor Sub Total + Max Dex Bonus Total)
21	Shield Bonus	Epic Madstone Tower Shield. Can be the Shield spell, or an actual shield. If using Tower Shield, adjust max dex bonus relative to the Tower Shield in use.
11	Unyielding Sentinel: Shield Prowess (+50%)	Passive Bonus: Shield AC contribution increased by 50%.
3	Sacred Defender Enhancement: Sacred Shield Mastery (+15%)
35	Shield Total
100	Armor Total + Shield Total
8	Enhancement Bonus (Armor or Shield Enhancement bonus)	Use only the greater enhancement bonus of either armor or shield.
3	Sacred Defender Enhancement: Sacred Armor Mastery (+3 AC)	Feat Bonus
8	Natural Armor
10	Unyielding Sentinel: Hardened	Feat Bonus
1	Alchemical Eldritch Ritual: Armor (+1 Alchemical Dodge Bonus)
1	Alchemical Eldritch Ritual: Shield (+1 Alchemical Bonus)
0	Natural Armor (Twist of Fate)	e.g. Twisting "Dragonhide" from tier 1 Draconic Incarnation
5	Unyielding Sentinel: Unbreakable (+5 Sacred Bonus to Natural Armor)	Stacks with other natural armor bonuses. Passive benefit.
5	Insight Armor Bonus	Guardians Bracers - provides Riposte IX: Passive: +5 insight bonus to armor class, +4 insight bonus to all saving throws
0	Insight Natural Armor Bonus	e.g. Knights Loyalty Set Bonus
8	Protection: Deflection Bonus	Flawless White Dragonplate Armor. Could also come from "Spell: Shield of Faith"
1	Feat: Paladin Aura of Good
5	Sacred Defender: Bulwark Aura (+5)
4	Epic Feat: Bulwark of Defense (Only when Combat Expertise is active)	When in a defensive stance, you gain an additional +2 to all saving throws and +4 to Armor class.
0	Defender of Siberys Item Set	Item set bonus from belt and ring will add +2 stacking AC.
0	Profane Bonus	e.g. Echrono set
0	Wisdom Bonus	Monk. Adds Wisdom modifier to AC with Monk Level 1
0	Centered Bonus	Monk. Adds additional AC depending on Monk level. Requires no armor/shield, and only weapons that allow monk to remain centered.
3		Ship Buffs: House Deneith Defender Contract, House Kundarak Battlemaster Contract, Clan Gnashtooth Kobold Shaman Contract
12	Epic Past Life Feat: Martial Sphere	Passive Bonus: +2 AC per stack of this Past Life and +1 AC per ten character levels. (+4 total AC with level 28 cap. +5 total AC with level 30 cap.)
174	Sub Total (Armor and Shield Total + Remaining sources of AC)
18	Feat:Combat Expertise (+10%)
192	Total (Sub Total + Combat Expertise)
2	Luck bonus	Spell: Recitation
1	Dodge bonus	Spell: Haste
1		Spell: Armor Enchantment. Artificer spell.
1		Spell: Weapon Enchantment. Will apply to shields too if equiped. Artificer spell
197	Total with Temporary Buffs
2	Active Blocking
199	Total With All Buffs and Blocking

Taken from the other thread.

This. Is. AWESOME.

[Inoukchuk]

I ask for a bit of help, and just get blasted for the idea. Is this really what the forums have devolved into?

Largely, yes. But not completely.

[Nayus]

Bookmarking this for reference O_O