Looking for some advice on a mnk/clr build

[stripe1010]

I am trying to make a mnk/clr build to satisfy my clr past life headed towards completionist. Never having played a cleric before I am leaning on my monk skills to get me through. I built him up to level 28 just in case I like it..lol. Any advice you can give would be greatly appreciated.
I have a +5 tome and both greater learning tomes already on this guy from a prior life, past lives of monk and articifer as well. I figured a whirlwind/blade barrier combo might be worthy. Went shintao and radiant for prestige lines. The build looks extremely click heavy but I figure that might work out due to the great versitility afforded by all the options. Human for the extra feat that I spent on dragonmark of passage for the eventual teleport. Anyway, enough of my rambling, thanks ahead of time for the responses.

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Level 28 Lawful Good Human Male
(8 Monk \ 12 Cleric \ 8 Epic) 
Hit Points: 392
Spell Points: 1640 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 21
Reflex: 15
Will: 26

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 28)           (Level 28)
Strength             13                 18                   18
Dexterity            15                 20                   20
Constitution         13                 18                   19
Intelligence         10                 15                   15
Wisdom               18                 30                   35
Charisma              8                 13                   13

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
+4 Tome of Strength used at level 15
+4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 15
+4 Tome of Constitution used at level 15
+4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 15
+4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 15
+4 Tome of Charisma used at level 15
+5 Tome of Strength used at level 19
+5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19
+5 Tome of Constitution used at level 19
+5 Tome of Intelligence used at level 19
+5 Tome of Wisdom used at level 19
+5 Tome of Charisma used at level 19

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 28)          (Level 28)
Balance               6                 16                   29
Bluff                -1                  1                    9
Concentration         5                 23                   36
Diplomacy             2                 20                   28
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                  n/a
Haggle               -1                  1                    9
Heal                  4                 31                   39
Hide                  2                  5                   13
Intimidate           -1                  1                    9
Jump                  5                 15                   23
Listen                4                 12                   20
Move Silently         2                  5                   13
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                  n/a
Perform              n/a                n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                  2                   11
Search                0                  2                   11
Spellcraft            0                 20                   28
Spot                  8                 23                   31
Swim                  1                  4                   12
Tumble                3                  6                   14
Use Magic Device     n/a                n/a                  n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Diplomacy (+3)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Human Bonus) Least Dragonmark of Passage
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) AC Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Kama
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves
Feat: (Automatic) Flurry of Blows
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Handaxe
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Club
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Dagger
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Heavy Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Light Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Quarterstaff
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Unarmed
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) The Way of Air
Feat: (Automatic) The Way of Fire
Feat: (Automatic) The Way of Earth
Feat: (Automatic) The Way of Water
Feat: (Automatic) Unarmed Strike
Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Orien Dragonmark Focus (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Bastion of Purity (Rank 1)


Level 2 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Mobility
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Meditation
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Enhancement: Human - Orien Dragonmark Focus (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Human - Orien Dragonmark Focus (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Human - Action Surge: Constitution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Lesser Dragonmark of Passage (Rank 1)


Level 3 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Disciple of the Fist
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
Feat: (Automatic) Fast Movement
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves: Path of Harmonious Balance (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves: Path of Inevitable Dominion (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Still Mind
Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Ambidexterity (Rank 1)


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Magic
Feat: (Automatic) Slow Fall
Enhancement: Human - Human Adaptability: Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Greater Dragonmark of Passage (Rank 1)


Level 5 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Purity of Body
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Difficulty at the Beginning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 1)


Level 6 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Precision
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Spring Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Adept of Forms
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Protection from Tainted Creatures (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - The Receptive Earth (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Conditioning (Rank 1)


Level 7 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Wholeness of Body
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Hand (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Conditioning (Rank 2)


Level 8 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Spell Power Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Conditioning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Restoring the Balance (Rank 1)


Level 9 (Cleric)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Spellcraft (+2)
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Silver Flame
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Turn Undead
Spell (1): Bane
Spell (1): Bless
Spell (1): Cause Fear
Spell (1): Command
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (1): Divine Favor
Spell (1): Doom
Spell (1): Inflict Light Wounds
Spell (1): Lesser Restoration
Spell (1): Nightshield
Spell (1): Nimbus of Light
Spell (1): Obscuring Mist
Spell (1): Protection from Evil
Spell (1): Remove Fear
Spell (1): Shield of Faith
Spell (1): Summon Monster I
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Wisdom (Rank 1)


Level 10 (Cleric)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Spellcraft (+2)
Feat: (Automatic) Curse of the Void
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Lawful
Feat: (Automatic) Moment of Clarity
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Lifting the Veil (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Healing Domain (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)


Level 11 (Cleric)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Spellcraft (+2)
Feat: (Automatic) Diamond Body
Spell (2): Aid
Spell (2): Bear's Endurance
Spell (2): Bull's Strength
Spell (2): Close Wounds
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (2): Deific Vengeance
Spell (2): Eagle's Splendor
Spell (2): Find Traps
Spell (2): Hold Person
Spell (2): Inflict Moderate Wounds
Spell (2): Owl's Wisdom
Spell (2): Remove Paralysis
Spell (2): Resist Energy
Spell (2): Seek Eternal Rest
Spell (2): Soundburst
Spell (2): Spawn Screen
Spell (2): Summon Monster II
Enhancement: Human - Human Adaptability: Constitution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Wisdom (Rank 1)


Level 12 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Spellcraft (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise
Feat: (Automatic) Abundant Step
Feat: (Automatic) Master of Forms (ALL)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Bliss (Rank 1)


Level 13 (Cleric)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Spellcraft (+2)
Feat: (Automatic) Diamond Soul
Spell (3): Aid, Mass
Spell (3): Bestow Curse
Spell (3): Blindness
Spell (3): Contagion
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (3): Dispel Magic
Spell (3): Glyph of Warding
Spell (3): Inflict Serious Wounds
Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil
Spell (3): Prayer
Spell (3): Protection from Energy
Spell (3): Remove Blindness
Spell (3): Remove Curse
Spell (3): Remove Disease
Spell (3): Searing Light
Spell (3): Summon Monster III
Spell (3): Water Breathing
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Pacifism (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Improved Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Mighty Turning (Rank 1)


Level 14 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Silver Flame Exorcism
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Positive Energy Burst (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Wisdom (Rank 1)


Level 15 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Whirlwind Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Quivering Palm
Spell (4): Chaos Hammer
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
Spell (4): Death Ward
Spell (4): Dismissal
Spell (4): Divine Power
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
Spell (4): Holy Smite
Spell (4): Inflict Critical Wounds
Spell (4): Neutralize Poison
Spell (4): Order's Wrath
Spell (4): Panacea
Spell (4): Poison
Spell (4): Recitation
Spell (4): Restoration
Spell (4): Shield of Faith, Mass
Spell (4): Summon Monster IV
Spell (4): Symbol of Flame
Spell (4): Unholy Blight
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Bliss (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Improved Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Improved Turning (Rank 3)


Level 16 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Adamantine
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Bliss (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Divine Healing (Rank 1)


Level 17 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+2)
Feat: (Automatic) Timeless Body
Spell (5): Break Enchantment
Spell (5): Cure Light Wounds, Mass
Spell (5): Divine Punishment
Spell (5): Flame Strike
Spell (5): Greater Command
Spell (5): Inflict Light Wounds, Mass
Spell (5): Protection from Elements
Spell (5): Raise Dead
Spell (5): Slay Living
Spell (5): Spell Resistance
Spell (5): Stalwart Pact
Spell (5): Summon Monster V
Spell (5): Symbol of Pain
Spell (5): True Seeing
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Endless Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Endless Turning (Rank 2)


Level 18 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Grandmaster of Forms (ALL)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Endless Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Wisdom (Rank 1)


Level 19 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Empty Body
Spell (6): Banishment
Spell (6): Bear's Endurance, Mass
Spell (6): Blade Barrier
Spell (6): Bull's Strength, Mass
Spell (6): Cometfall
Spell (6): Create Undead
Spell (6): Cure Moderate Wounds, Mass
Spell (6): Eagle's Splendor, Mass
Spell (6): Greater Dispel Magic
Spell (6): Greater Glyph of Warding
Spell (6): Harm
Spell (6): Heal
Spell (6): Heroes Feast
Spell (6): Inflict Moderate Wounds, Mass
Spell (6): Owl's Wisdom, Mass
Spell (6): Protection from Elements, Mass
Spell (6): Summon Monster VI
Spell (6): Symbol of Fear
Spell (6): Symbol of Persuasion
Spell (6): Undeath to Death
Spell (6): Word of Recall
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Unyielding Sovereignty (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Positive Energy Aura (Rank 1)


Level 20 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Enhancement: Human - Action Surge: Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Martyrdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Reactive Heal (Rank 1)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell
Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: WIS
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Holy Strike


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed


Level 28 (Epic)
Ability Raise: WIS
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Forced Escape

[Azarddoze]

This is probably not the answer you're looking for but my advice for an easy cleric life : Don't splash. Just go wisdom based and from lvl 11+ you can run and complete quests while never even looking behind. You just need to learn and apply to following word: mobility.

If you keep the build:

I can understand spot (kind of) but i'd swap diplomacy for UMD or more spellcraft (or heal in your case since spellcraft might not help you much). Even if it's just for a fire/frost shield 5 times the whole life, it's still better than hoping about possible extra xp in A Relic of a Sovereign Past. You'll be built like a self healing tank anyway so why be scared of enemies? And i'm not sure 18 wisdom will serve you well, even more so since your cleric levels are late so when you'll start relying on spells, your DCs/spell selection/damage will be bad anyways. You seem to rely on the cleric levels mostly to keep yourself alive. Why not more str/con/(cha if umd)? I'd also lower dex, think you'd be fine with 13 with your tomes.

Lots of thing I would change actually. We maybe not have the same playstyle but keep in mind that you're looking for an easy PL.

Edit: Not playing atm and kinda forgot wisdom for monk DCs... still thinking 2 less for more con/str would be better but that's me. But still put lvl up points in wis.

And... Enhancements: Those would be bad if taken in that order during leveling progression. Go all out dps for the first lvls. Maybe a bit of survivability if you struggle. Once you got what you need there, you can pick up some fluff in the human tree.

If you chose the easy full Cleric way, I took 5 minutes to look at the cleric tree and I think I wouldn't even touch anything else than divine disciple for a whole heroic life. Or at least not until 15+ depending on preferences. That's if your looking for maximum efficiency. And looking at the SLAs... you want both Maximize and Empower as soon as possible. Quicken when holy smite (sla)/BB unlocks. Seems awesome.

I have 4 FVS and 3 Cleric lives (5/7 pure) under my belt and they're easier (though require active gameplay) and stronger than about anything except maybe a PM wiz with insightful reflex once you've stacked a couple past lives and got some gear. Because that's one reality : your reflex save will be your only weakness. Park a healer and enjoy the ride of possibilities.

[stripe1010]

This is probably not the answer you're looking for but my advice for an easy cleric life : Don't splash. Just go wisdom based and from lvl 11+ you can run and complete quests while never even looking behind. You just need to learn and apply to following word: mobility.

If you keep the build:

I can understand spot (kind of) but i'd swap diplomacy for UMD or more spellcraft (or heal in your case since spellcraft might not help you much). Even if it's just for a fire/frost shield 5 times the whole life, it's still better than hoping about possible extra xp in A Relic of a Sovereign Past. You'll be built like a self healing tank anyway so why be scared of enemies? And i'm not sure 18 wisdom will serve you well, even more so since your cleric levels are late so when you'll start relying on spells, your DCs/spell selection/damage will be bad anyways. You seem to rely on the cleric levels mostly to keep yourself alive. Why not more str/con/(cha if umd)? I'd also lower dex, think you'd be fine with 13 with your tomes.

Lots of thing I would change actually. We maybe not have the same playstyle but keep in mind that you're looking for an easy PL.

Edit: Not playing atm and kinda forgot wisdom for monk DCs... still thinking 2 less for more con/str would be better but that's me. But still put lvl up points in wis.

And... Enhancements: Those would be bad if taken in that order during leveling progression. Go all out dps for the first lvls. Maybe a bit of survivability if you struggle. Once you got what you need there, you can pick up some fluff in the human tree.

If you chose the easy full Cleric way, I took 5 minutes to look at the cleric tree and I think I wouldn't even touch anything else than divine disciple for a whole heroic life. Or at least not until 15+ depending on preferences. That's if your looking for maximum efficiency. And looking at the SLAs... you want both Maximize and Empower as soon as possible. Quicken when holy smite (sla)/BB unlocks. Seems awesome.

I have 4 FVS and 3 Cleric lives (5/7 pure) under my belt and they're easier (though require active gameplay) and stronger than about anything except maybe a PM wiz with insightful reflex once you've stacked a couple past lives and got some gear. Because that's one reality : your reflex save will be your only weakness. Park a healer and enjoy the ride of possibilities.

TY for replying. The main reason I did not want to go pure cleric is that I have never played a healer type on any MMO I have ever played. Pure Battle Cleric is routinely derided in the forums so I was trying to look for a splash that would work for me. I could reverse the levels or switch back and forth but I figured the combat ability of the monk made for an easier start. Wisdom is huge for monk and cleric but you are right about the constitution being low. I went a little high on the dex in order to qualify for the TWF feats a little earlier but I could give those up till later. You seem to be more focused on the casting instead of the melee aspect of the character. Is a BB/Smite cleric that much more powerful than a whirlwind monk? I really just looked at the cleric levels as making me a bit more solo-capable. The comment about diplomacy is dead on though...that was an oopsie on my part for sure. Some specifics about enhancement order changes would help too. I kind of just tossed them in from left to right..lol. I did want the the teleport for a few truly problematic quests such as one in Necropolis with the fire elementals..i continually get lost in there, and a few with lock out spots.

[Azarddoze]

TY for replying. The main reason I did not want to go pure cleric is that I have never played a healer type on any MMO I have ever played. Pure Battle Cleric is routinely derided in the forums so I was trying to look for a splash that would work for me. I could reverse the levels or switch back and forth but I figured the combat ability of the monk made for an easier start. Wisdom is huge for monk and cleric but you are right about the constitution being low. I went a little high on the dex in order to qualify for the TWF feats a little earlier but I could give those up till later. You seem to be more focused on the casting instead of the melee aspect of the character. Is a BB/Smite cleric that much more powerful than a whirlwind monk? I really just looked at the cleric levels as making me a bit more solo-capable. The comment about diplomacy is dead on though...that was an oopsie on my part for sure. Some specifics about enhancement order changes would help too. I kind of just tossed them in from left to right..lol. I did want the the teleport for a few truly problematic quests such as one in Necropolis with the fire elementals..i continually get lost in there, and a few with lock out spots.

A Cleric doesn't have to be simply a healer. In heroic levels, it can be a casting power house that can solo elite Amrath at level. As I said in my previous post, I wouldn't even put 1 point in the healing tree I think.

The reason why I opened the door to the pure casting side is because you talked about the BB / Whirlwind combo, which won't happen because you'll be getting BB at 19, and the DC will be kinda bad. Also since I've tried both and, while the gameplay isn't the same at all, caster has the potential to clear heroic content faster and with more ease. And yes, if you play it right, it's THAT much more efficient.

Can't really help with your feats and enhancements if you go the melee oriented way... as i'm not experienced as other would be with heroic melee lives (even more so under the new enhancements trees) but i'd still say and repeat the same general statement : Go all out dps and if you think you need more survivability/utility, then pick some up. Putting points in PRR/Dodge/Healing Amp is a waste if you never come near death while fighting non-caster mobs. Like power attack (feat)... if you don't miss much, i'd pick that up first as it's a straight dps boost. Unless it is for some pre-req, I'd also pick up toughness instead of dodge since I believe traps and are the most dangerous aspect of heroic quests and sometimes that bit more HP makes the difference.

This only apply to heroic content.

If you're dead set on a level split (ie: 12/8), i'll be glad to look it up further and come up with a more helpful answer. But general statement mixed with one's own playstyle usually come with good results that are more enjoyable.

[stripe1010]

A Cleric doesn't have to be simply a healer. In heroic levels, it can be a casting power house that can solo elite Amrath at level. As I said in my previous post, I wouldn't even put 1 point in the healing tree I think.

The reason why I opened the door to the pure casting side is because you talked about the BB / Whirlwind combo, which won't happen because you'll be getting BB at 19, and the DC will be kinda bad. Also since I've tried both and, while the gameplay isn't the same at all, caster has the potential to clear heroic content faster and with more ease. And yes, if you play it right, it's THAT much more efficient.

Can't really help with your feats and enhancements if you go the melee oriented way... as i'm not experienced as other would be with heroic melee lives (even more so under the new enhancements trees) but i'd still say and repeat the same general statement : Go all out dps and if you think you need more survivability/utility, then pick some up. Putting points in PRR/Dodge/Healing Amp is a waste if you never come near death while fighting non-caster mobs. Like power attack (feat)... if you don't miss much, i'd pick that up first as it's a straight dps boost. Unless it is for some pre-req, I'd also pick up toughness instead of dodge since I believe traps and are the most dangerous aspect of heroic quests and sometimes that bit more HP makes the difference.

This only apply to heroic content.

If you're dead set on a level split (ie: 12/8), i'll be glad to look it up further and come up with a more helpful answer. But general statement mixed with one's own playstyle usually come with good results that are more enjoyable.

Thank you again for replying..being that a number of folks have looked but only you have answered I would guess that I am way off on my suppositions about pure cleric. I will go for the pure combat oriented cleric. Now I just have to find a decent build because I am completely new at cleric. FYI, as for the dodge it was a pre-req for whirlwind, mobility, and spring attack. Well back to the drawing board. Ty again for the help.