Over Raided AA solo Elite Ascension Chamber

[Shaatan]

Here's something that I wasn't really planning to solo, but got motivated to try it by guildies and Sestra's solo normal run.





At first I tried to do all puzzles in a first round, like the last time that I soloed it, but to do it, you need a perfect puzzle order, a perfect and super fast execution of all puzzles and some luck. So, since I didn't have to play in Exalted Angel thanks to Rise of the Phoenix from Shintao, after countless forced restarts, I finally decided to go for 2 rounder. Of course I didn't complete on a first try, or second, or even tenth lol. I lost count of how many tries it took and I really didn't feel like taking new screenshots on every run that I could just get in wrong puzzle and have to restart anyway, so I was taking my first screenshot after I was done with first round of puzzles.

The order in which I've done it, wasn't exactly a perfect one, but it was good enough to complete. In first round I landed in Ice first and then in roids. Second round was both sides of tiles.

People will probably ask what tactics I used for puzzles, so here it is:

ICE:

I just swim through it after eating Toven Cookie to get more HP and take less damage from water.

TILES:

This.

ROIDS:

Stand in the middle and do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fJzFYmBXeg


It was MUCH MUCH easier than the first time I've soloed it, but still a huge pain in the butt. Back when I first time soloed it on normal, I had to play in Exalted Angel for self rez, which dropped the DPS dramatically and roids were buggy (invisible and indestructible roids), which made me force a 1 rounder completion. This time I had much better DPS and roids were working fine, so I could go for 2 rounds and give myself a bigger margin for error.

Looks like its going to be my last solo raid for this year! Aren't you glad? I'm not going to spam this section till the next year!
Realistically tho, I don't think if I'll be posting much in the near future. The only raids that I have to do would be EE LoB and EE CiTW with no reentries. CiTW should be doable, but I'm just terrified about the amount of SP Pots that I would need for it with Lolth draining 7k SP per shoot lol. As for LoB, I'm not quite sure if it's doable for me or not, but I'll give it a try eventually. Of course I'll be working on figuring ways to solo the raids that Turbine promised us for 2014.

[Shaatan]

Oh noes, I forgot "/" in the thread's name !!!! Now it's all ruined. T_T

[Tinman.pl]

ROIDS:

Stand in the middle and do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fJzFYmBXeg

You've got this dog showing up on your screan in roids too?

[Knight_slayer]

I inspired you to beat me to a first abbot elite solo? I'll have to work on being less inspiring, seeing as there's nothing else to work on as you've already solo'd everything elite!

This is a tough solo, with all the luck involved, clearly you have the skills.

Max gratz.

[S_Takumi]

Just curious but how did you do roids without running out of ammos? Do incoming roids scale with party size?

[Tinman.pl]

Just curious but how did you do roids without running out of ammos? Do incoming roids scale with party size?

There are four stacks of roids in there (200 total) + those that spawn after roids are finished, enough for full party and enough for one person to take them all and use em.

[ycheese123]

Congrats Shat, it's a great achievement.

[Arianka]

how did u do goggles & tiles?

[Shaatan]

how did u do goggles & tiles?

I went in on goggles side, grabbed goggles, did the crack run, destroyed sarcophagi, died out, rezzed with Raise of the Phoenix, stepped in the other side and did it with goggles. This method has a lot better success rate than just blind running Tiles lol.

[Arianka]

wow. never saw that thred b4. thanks!

[Shaatan]

wow. never saw that thred b4. thanks!

Yeah, the Crack Run method is pretty awesome once you get some practice in lining yourself quickly. You get almost 90% success rate on blind running tiles this way.

[Genhubcap]

May I ask for your build, or a link to it? I'm just returning to the game and want to make an AA, but have no clue how.

[MeliCat]

I just watched the solo run that Sestra youtubed. Wow. Mad skillz. So kudos Shaatan also.

[Shaatan]

I moved a conversation from this thread here, since this seems like a better place for it.

...oh and that's a serious point being discussed on height? Intersting.

Yup. If you get caught in encasement when you are in midair, you will always jump out of it, no matter how high above the ground you are.

Jump skill caps and the animation is made so all races can jump for the same height, which means that no matter how tall or short your toon is, the peak point of your jump with the same Jump modifier will always be the same. And obviously, because of cap, you can't jump higher than a certain point, no matter the size.
The thing is that there is quite some difference in height between some races (f.e. half-orc is roughly as tall as 2 halflings lol), which also means that a halfling would need much more space between his feet and the ground than half-orc to reach the same point in midair, thus it spends more time in the air than much bigger half-orc. The same rule applies to running speed. It certainly feels that smaller toons move faster when you play them, but it's only because they are small and they have to move the same distance as bigger toons in the same time as them.

You can time the abbot's abilities and always dodge encasement by jumping out of it.

Exactly as Teth said, you can time abbot's abilities. However, even if you time his special abilities, it's never exactly the same amount of time between his specials. There is always some amount of server - client lag in between. I'm not saying that the difference in height between toons covers precisely this amount of time that a server - client lag might cause in this case, but it certainly gives you a little bit more security.
In other words, those few seconds off the ground during the entire raid that Sestra mentioned, might be the ones that determine if you succeed or fail. If you know when to jump, an extra half of a second of featherfall can be a big help, especially that nothing except for boulders can break you out of encasement. If you get caught, it's game over.

Also there is no difference in the encasement on normal or elite, except for the amount of damage it does.

There is one pretty significant difference between normal and elite encasement. On elite you have to keep countering it for much longer, since Abbot has more HP.



In any case, this is only one aspect of this raid that someone who wants to solo it, needs to deal with. You can time it, you can keep jumping all the time and hope that you'll always be lucky, you can spend all your plat on Scarabs, or you can come up with something that I don't have a clue about. Dealing with only 1 raid mechanic, one way or another, doesn't guarantee any success. It's how you approach the whole thing and how good you are able to execute pre-made tactics and assumptions that determines if you succeed or fail.

[MeliCat]

Yup. If you get caught in encasement when you are in midair, you will always jump out of it, no matter how high above the ground you are.

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In other words, those few seconds off the ground during the entire raid that Sestra mentioned, might be the ones that determine if you succeed or fail. If you know when to jump, an extra half of a second of featherfall can be a big help, especially that nothing except for boulders can break you out of encasement. If you get caught, it's game over.

Ah... cute trick. I will have to pay attention the next time I'm in there.

And Sestra's run looked very organised (He fell into the water at one point... if I hadn't know that the youtube must have a happy ending it would have been very disturbing to watch at that point... but no he got out again.. v exciting ) And he knew exactly what he was doing so I imagine you are very much organised too with not just this but the whole thing (and a tonne more hp on elite - bah!).

Congrats again.

[Knight_slayer]

There is one pretty significant difference between normal and elite encasement. On elite you have to keep countering it for much longer, since Abbot has more HP.



In any case, this is only one aspect of this raid that someone who wants to solo it, needs to deal with. You can time it, you can keep jumping all the time and hope that you'll always be lucky, you can spend all your plat on Scarabs, or you can come up with something that I don't have a clue about. Dealing with only 1 raid mechanic, one way or another, doesn't guarantee any success. It's how you approach the whole thing and how good you are able to execute pre-made tactics and assumptions that determines if you succeed or fail.

Your making this sound so much more complicated than it actually is. I have spent over 10 hours fighting the abbot on elite, being spammed with encasement and not one time did it land on me! That's not lucky, that's a tactic that's simple and effective.

[Shaatan]

Your making this sound so much more complicated than it actually is. I have spent over 10 hours fighting the abbot on elite, being spammed with encasement and not one time did it land on me! That's not lucky, that's a tactic that's simple and effective.

Try the same on bigger toon then.

[Knight_slayer]

Try the same on bigger toon then.

Any race that is off the ground, even 1", will fall out of encasement. Works the same on my WF sorc and my sun elf wizard.

I have, I use this technique on all my toons. Has never failed. Like I said, simple and effective.

[Shaatan]

I have, I use this technique on all my toons. Has never failed. Like I said, simple and effective.

For me it is effective only in groups when the fight doesn't take very long. When I was solo and the fight obviously was taking a lot longer than in a group, if I didn't time my actions right, I eventually got encased.