Cetus: The Supreme Bladeforged Fighter

[pesch1991]

I think he's referring to the old build you had, as a fleshy.

If so, then yes do that and use cocoon. Just remember that when those temp HPs are gone, it stops working.

Yea i am Playing a half orc, very nice thank you

[Cetus]

Yea i am Playing a half orc, very nice thank you

I never used cocoon on my fleshy version. Waste of a dps twist afaic.

[Endarire]

How well does this build work on a first life Warforged in comparison? What changes should be made? What are the main advantages of Bladeforged over Warforged?

[unbongwah]

How well does this build work on a first life Warforged in comparison? What changes should be made? What are the main advantages of Bladeforged over Warforged?

Reconstruct SLA is the big difference; without it you basically have zero self-repairability. Power of the Forge is also a nice perk, since it stacks w/Haste Boost, just as human/HE Dmg Boost does.

[Cetus]

How well does this build work on a first life Warforged in comparison? What changes should be made? What are the main advantages of Bladeforged over Warforged?

There's no real point in going warforged. If you don't have access to bladeforged then try the human version I posted instead. The two robots are quite different in both self-healing and DPS.

[Endarire]

If going Bladeforged, what's the optimal order in which to take classes?

Also, where's the Human version?

[Blackheartox]

If going Bladeforged, what's the optimal order in which to take classes?

Also, where's the Human version?

Didnt cetus alrdy say there is NO optimal leveling route, figure it out by yourself.
It isnt hard, if you cant do at least that much dont play it.
If you cant find human version and dont know search function on forums, then dont play it.
Simple answers to simple questions.

Cetus, you using new bracers and belt?
What you do with str item slot if answer is yes?
Figuring myself what to do, 1 option is to swap in out a 11 str belt when you get dstrike buff.
2nd to use gloves and skip on sneak from backstabers, and last option is to use a dun 7 st ring or slot in 8 str somewhere

[pesch1991]

Didnt cetus alrdy say there is NO optimal leveling route, figure it out by yourself.
It isnt hard, if you cant do at least that much dont play it.
If you cant find human version and dont know search function on forums, then dont play it.
Simple answers to simple questions.

Cetus, you using new bracers and belt?
What you do with str item slot if answer is yes?
Figuring myself what to do, 1 option is to swap in out a 11 str belt when you get dstrike buff.
2nd to use gloves and skip on sneak from backstabers, and last option is to use a dun 7 st ring or slot in 8 str somewhere

both items are useless and not worth the effort imo

[Takllin]

both items are useless and not worth the effort imo

How are they useless/not worth the effort?

You need to run the raid anyways to get your phlogistons...

[Nodoze]

If going Bladeforged, what's the optimal order in which to take classes?

Also, where's the Human version?

The u19 human version is here:

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...er-Build-Cetus

I was running a Bladeforged varient of the Human build back then as I was doing it on a first lifer back then. Unfortunately I can't find my planner. In one of my notes I see the following leveling order:

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My memory is that on my 3rd life I think I delayed at least the 5th monk level some to spread it out a little more to keep skills maxed more something like:

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To get the optimal skills you may need to string out the Monk/Paladin levels a little more... Maybe someone else has more details as to what they did (sorry I can't find my planner) but in the end it doesn't matter that much.

Note that with BladeForged, unless you are going to burn at least a LR+1 you have to start level 1 as a Paladin which defeats the normal logic for which class to take at First level for multi-classes as normally you take the class that will give you the most starting skill points first and/or will unlock full ranks in special skills like UMD... With F/M/P I believe you would normally want to take Monk first to get the most skill points but I don't know that it is worth burning a LR+1 for that (I didn't).

[Eth]

both items are useless and not worth the effort imo

The belt is really nice. You get the doublestrike proc as soon as you get hit and it lasts for 45 seconds.

[Takllin]

The belt is really nice. You get the doublestrike proc as soon as you get hit and it lasts for 45 seconds.

This ^

Even if you only use it as a hotswap to keep up the doublestrike proc, it is an amazing item.

[Thrudh]

80 Strength

What's the breakdown on this? How do you achieve an 80 STR?

[-Zyxas-]

My 2 cp on leveling order... (I don't really have any "koalafications", but I mess with new builds a lot. My main character is a monkcher. I also have a staffy and a paladin and some random low level characters.)

First, a few details on what this leveling order is intended for. First life, +3 tomes, 1 LR+0 (the free one! wanted more skills), Bladeforged.
For base stats, I put 14/14/16/9/10/13. This gets me OC at level 24 with a +3 tome, Manyshot with a +3 tome, Zen with +3, plenty of con and skills, and a healthy dose of charisma. I assume it'll be mostly even numbers with full gear because of the +3 str and con tomes "cancelling" with scream, and odd base cha + odd tome = even. It largely depends on +7/8/10/11 and +2/3 insightful items...

PMFMP(+7F)(+4M)(+4F)

I like the feat progression with this because monk earlier allows for master of forms as a heroic feat, and bow use without bleeding ki from level 16 on. Also, for skills I was able to max UMD and Repair with almost enough points to max a second skill. (I somewhat arbitrarily chose balance, though I would consider spot, intim, diplo, or jump [1st life = no BTC clickies]). Rather than stunning blow (requires item and ED investment, and favors ridiculously high strength from past life build points and tomes) and completionist (1st life build.) I took gTHF and Grandmaster stances.

For a completionist/+5 tomes build, I would probably take 9-10 base wisdom anyway and take the 6th monk level earlier than level 20. I personally would rather have a normal ("leveling") progression than more-optimized-for-cap stats. I enjoy the journey of leveling up enough to slightly skimp on 100% full potential at cap.

[Cetus]

What's the breakdown on this? How do you achieve an 80 STR?

18 base
7 Levelups
5 tome
10 Item
1 Exceptional
2 Completionist
2 Enhancement
1 Destiny
1 Profane
2 Ship
2 Rage
4 Tenser's
8 Power Surge
15 Divine Might
2 Yugoloth Potion
____________________

80

Which isn't max either

+6 strength tome + +11 str item + +6 Cha tome and a starting 16 cha = +3 more strength

[unbongwah]

2 Rage

Primal Scream is worth up to +3 more than this (assume you mean the spell, not the barb feat).

If you're lucky enough to have a bard w/Inspire Excellence along, that's another +3 STR (+2 directly and another +1 from +2 CHA).

[Thrudh]

18 base
7 Levelups
5 tome
10 Item
1 Exceptional
2 Completionist
2 Enhancement
1 Destiny
1 Profane
2 Ship
2 Rage
4 Tenser's
8 Power Surge
15 Divine Might
2 Yugoloth Potion
____________________

80

Which isn't max either

+6 strength tome + +11 str item + +6 Cha tome and a starting 16 cha = +3 more strength

Many thanks... I forgot about Tensers.... What's your CHA breakdown? Ah, never mind, I see how the litany and completionist would get you to 40 CHA.

I may have to go for completionist now... +2 STR AND +2 CHA is pretty nice for a stunning build with Divine Might.

[Cetus]

Primal Scream is worth up to +3 more than this (assume you mean the spell, not the barb feat).

If you're lucky enough to have a bard w/Inspire Excellence along, that's another +3 STR (+2 directly and another +1 from +2 CHA).

Well yea, but I was talking about self-buffed - and primal scream isn't optimal on this build, better twists out there

You can throw in a store pot too if you like =D

[pesch1991]

Well yea, but I was talking about self-buffed - and primal scream isn't optimal on this build, better twists out there

You can throw in a store pot too if you like =D

Even More a waste if you take the stalwart defender line spending only 11 points and Gain 25 prr + 3 saves 10% fortification + 23 hp but stalwart stance rules for me since i will be on dreadnought all the time its that good and humans will give enough Str anyway , i have one question cetus what will you do if they do anything to bladeforged reconstruct sla ?

[Cetus]

i have one question cetus what will you do if they do anything to bladeforged reconstruct sla ?

I'll simply go back to human after rage-quitting for a week. That would be one of the dumbest and most lazy changes.