Cetus: The Supreme Bladeforged Fighter

[lyrecono]

i noticed a large increase whille weilding the armor pen ww weapon (next to the black scale docent), whille fighting old content undead.
Not so much (but still noticeble) in the newer content.
i wouldn't use armor pen with 2hf, but for 2wf, it might be worth it

[Cetus]

i noticed a large increase whille weilding the armor pen ww weapon (next to the black scale docent), whille fighting old content undead.
Not so much (but still noticeble) in the newer content.
i wouldn't use armor pen with 2hf, but for 2wf, it might be worth it

You wouldn't use 35% bypass on a TH weapon? Bad choice...


Fully upgraded mournlode docent + 35% armor piercing + grim precision = 70% fort bypass

[Nightmanis]

You wouldn't use 35% bypass on a TH weapon? Bad choice...


Fully upgraded mournlode docent + 35% armor piercing + grim precision = 70% fort bypass

Oh God I forgot about those armours.

Might have to make the fullplate. The healer's bounty could be interesting with all the archers.

[lyrecono]

You wouldn't use 35% bypass on a TH weapon? Bad choice...


Fully upgraded mournlode docent + 35% armor piercing + grim precision = 70% fort bypass

maybe as a second th weapon, just not my first choice, btw, why mournlode over blackscale (also 20 %)?

grim precision is a bit steep, 1 more life to open up the 4th twist slot, i might consider it then (tier 2, next to sence weakness, is pretty high on this build though)

[redspecter23]

maybe as a second th weapon, just not my first choice, btw, why mournlode over blackscale (also 20 %)?

grim precision is a bit steep, 1 more life to open up the 4th twist slot, i might consider it then (tier 2, next to sence weakness, is pretty high on this build though)

The setup he has described there is an amazing metagame choice against undead. 35% bypass on the weapon won't stack with blackscale, but it will stack with Mournlode Docent, creating the amazing 70% bypass against undead. This is miles ahead of Black Scale + Grim Precision only. With the amount of undead in the new content, this 3 piece combination is hard to ignore. Against undead, I'll take grim precision over sense weakness nearly every time if I have to choose. For situations where undead aren't as numerous, swap back into Black Scale (or shadow armor for those using that) and get sense weakness back in there.

[redspecter23]

Oh God I forgot about those armours.

Might have to make the fullplate. The healer's bounty could be interesting with all the archers.

Keep in mind that the weaken undead ability (-20% fort) only comes on the chain shirt and docent versions. Healers bounty is a great ability, but it comes at the expense of weaken undead.

[Nightmanis]

Keep in mind that the weaken undead ability (-20% fort) only comes on the chain shirt and docent versions. Healers bounty is a great ability, but it comes at the expense of weaken undead.

This poses a massive problem as I'm not making night a toaster, and the chain shirt has (according to the wiki) a horrid mdb making it really just a terrible choice when blitzing.

Plus I said the heavy plate because I wanted to see how the high rate of hits in the new stuff would proc healers bounty. Most likely not as much as I would hope but still worth a look.

[Cetus]

Updated videos in OP with two EDA solos. One is with SOS in mostly earth stance, second is thunderforged falchion and wind dance. Dropping the two crit multiplier really makes my crits look wimpy, but the completion time was much faster.

[molyincide]

That's what the wiki claims is how armor-piercing works; not sure how you'd go about verifying that, though. Run some tests on the training dummy, I guess.

Easiest way to test is to get 100% or more fort bypass and see if every hit gives sneak attack on the training dummy. My guildie has done this and informed me that they do not stack iirc

[Lurzifer]

Updated videos in OP with two EDA solos. One is with SOS in mostly earth stance, second is thunderforged falchion and wind dance. Dropping the two crit multiplier really makes my crits look wimpy, but the completion time was much faster.

What? Lower Crits and more Doublestrike get the job faster done? Maybe add 15% attack speed, even more doublestrike and way more sneak attacks in as well, and see what happens lol :P

[Takllin]

What? Lower Crits and more Doublestrike get the job faster done? Maybe add 15% attack speed, even more doublestrike and way more sneak attacks in as well, and see what happens lol :P

Mortal Fear

[Cetus]

What? Lower Crits and more Doublestrike get the job faster done? Maybe add 15% attack speed, even more doublestrike and way more sneak attacks in as well, and see what happens lol :P

Well, don't ignore the movement speed you gain by staying out of earth stance. Less to do with doublestrike, more to do with getting to the trogs poking me off the sides faster.

And the other multiplier loss was in exchange for a ton of extra on-hit effects of a thunder forge weapon. No doublestrike there either.

[Eth]

Mortal Fear

Is this really relevant in EDA? Stuff dies in a few swings anyway and the bosses are red names.
(The on hit force damage helps of course, but I guess you mean the 5% hitpoint cutter)

[Cetus]

Is this really relevant in EDA? Stuff dies in a few swings anyway and the bosses are red names.
(The on hit force damage helps of course, but I guess you mean the 5% hitpoint cutter)

Yea, I agree. I didn't use mortal fear in EDA.

[plukje]

Cetus: Completionist Bladeforged 12 Fighter/6 Monk/2 Paladin

Note: This build is designed for advanced players who desire effectiveness in epic elite content. It is also centered around +5 tomes for the purposes of meeting stat requirements.


Class Progression: First, Second, and Sixth monk levels are the only important ones, since they receive feats at those levels.

Starting Stats: Strength: 18, Dexterity: 12, Constitution: 14, Intelligence: 8, Wisdom: 8, Charisma: 15

Feats

12 Fighter = 7 Feats. Bladeforged = 7 feats. 6 Monk = 3 Feats. Epic feats = 3 Feats. 7 + 7 + 3 + 3 = 20 Feats.

Add 2 Destiny feats + Paladin Deity + Monk light/dark path = 24 total feat decisions.

Ranged:

1. Improved Critical: Ranged
2. Weapon Focus: Ranged
3. Bow Strength
4. Manyshot (much later when +5 Dex tome kicks in)
5. Point Blank Shot
6. Rapid Shot
7. Zen Archery (should be taken as level 6 monk class feat when +5 Wisdom kicks in at level 19 for the 13 wisdom requirement)

Melee:

8. Power Attack (Should be taken as Level 1 or 2 Monk class feat)
9. Two Handed Fighting (Should be taken as Level 1 or 2 Monk Class feat)
10. Improved Two Handed Fighting
11. Stunning Blow
12. Weapon focus: Slashing
13. Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing
14. Weapon Specialization: Slashing
15. Improved Critical: Slashing
16. Cleave
17. Great Cleave
18. Overwhelming Critical


Other:

19. Completionist
20. Master of Forms (Adept is granted at level 6 monk, so this will occupy an epic feat slot)
21. Paladin: Follower of the Lord of Blades
22. Monk: Light Path
23. Level 26: Perfect Two handed fighting
24. Level 28: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting - 5% doublestrike for main hand weapon

Skills: All Levelup skills into maxing out UMD and Repair (leftovers into whatever you want, perhaps balance).

Twists:

Bane Of Undeath (if you plan to shrine, if not then pin)
Dance of Flowers
Sense Weakness / Pin

Enhancements:

Kensei:

-All Cores for Power Surge
-Extra Action boost 3
-Haste Boost 3
-One with the blade (this means all weapon specializations, alacrity, tier 1 meditation, deadly whatever (this ability is not used in this build), and shattering whatever (this ability is also not used in this build)).
-Tactics 2
-Strength 1 + 2

35 AP

Ninja Spy:

-All cores toward Shadow Veil
-Two tiers of Sneak Attack Training
-Acrobatic 2
-Agility 2
-Fists of Iron
-Ninja Poison

15 AP

Bladeforged:

-Improved Fortification Core
-Constitution Core
-Mechanist Tier 1
-Communion of Scribing 3
-Warforged Tactics +3
-Fearsome Presence
-Improved Power Attack 3
-Power of The Forge
-Weapon Attachment*

23 AP

*: This enhancement's usefulness is debatable. I use it for 33% of the time, since casting a tensers scroll is more useful than the attachment - the dps is about the same from the +4 str, but it also adds other bonuses. So, tensers > weapon attachment. However, during the minute and change that tensers is active, I use both of them together, then refresh the attachment in the remaining 1 minute and 50 seconds or something. If you don't like this enhancement, then drop 1 point of agility from the monk tree and use the 2 points on the third tier of sneak attack training from ninja spy OR the third tactics point from fighter - whatever you like. I might still do this, haven't decided on weapon attachment fully yet.

Knight of the Chalice

-First Core
-Extra turning 3
-Extra smite 1 (dump point)
-Divine Might 1**

7 AP

**: Everytime I use my power surge, damage boost, haste boost, I automatically hit divine might. When I had the second tier version of it, I ended up hitting it like every thirty seconds anyway just as part of the boost rotation. So, tier 2 is not needed - but I have a razr naga mouse that accommodates efficient boosting, if you don't then this decision maybe problematic - it works very well for me however.

Gear:

Necklace: EE Stolen Necklace w/ Insightful +2 Charisma Slotted, Charisma +10, and Accuracy +9 (This is useful for manyshotting, sometimes the bow grazes)
Helmet:: EE Black Dragon Helmet w/ +3 Insightful Constitution Yellow Slot: Globe of True Imperial Blood Green Slot: Good Luck +2
Goggles: Deadly X of Resistance +10
Armor: Flawless Black Dragonscale Docent: Slotted PRR +16 Epic Bladesmark Docent is also a powerful supplement
Bracer: Skirmisher's Bracers: Dexterity +9 and Doublestrike +8%
Ring 1: EE Consuming Darkness: Constitution +8, Combat Mastery +5, Seeker +12
Ring 2: Seal of Dun'Robar: Stunning +10
Boots: EE Goatskin Boots w/ Fortification +115, Yellow Slot: +2 insightful Dexterity, Green Slot: Wisdom +7
Gloves: EE Backstabber's Gloves: Sneak Attack +5, Exceptional Sneak attack +3, Improved Deception, Bluff +20, Yellow Slot: +250 Spell Points
Belt: Ogre Power +10 Belt of False life 45
Cloak: Adamantine Cloak of the Wolf: Exceptional Seeker +5, Attack bonus +4
Trinket: Litany of the Dead

Weapon: Epic Sword of Shadows: Red Slot: Repair Spellpower + 138 Augment, Colorless: Insightful +2 Wisdom

Still Looking to get:

Deadly XI of Resistance 10 Goggles
Ogre Power 11 of False Life 50 Belt

Few metagame tricks:

1. Upon zoning into quest, wear Verik's necklace instead of EE Stolen necklace, Replace Adamantine cloak of the wolf with Charisma 10 cloak with slot, place +2 Insightful 2 Cha in slot (I have a cloak like this with accuracy 11 on the tail end)

Once 2 boosts are used, switch for Cloak of the wolf + Stolen Necklace.

2. When Manyshotting, replace Litany with a prowess trinket for Artifact bonus to damage.


End Stats fully buffed with yugo pots/rage/Fire finisher in EARTH STANCE


170% fort (Not in this particular screenshot because I'm not wearing the fort 115% goatskins - but the 155% I have in the screenshot with the extra 15% will total 170% - I also have 1 Bladeforged Past life)

21% Doublestrike (Currently with 1 Martial epic past life)
71 Reflex (divine brace +1 past life atm)
77 Fortitude (divine brace +1 past life atm)
59 Will (divine brace +1 past life atm)
1030 Hitpoints (without greensteel)
41 PRR (divine past life +3 atm)
80 Strength

Stunning Blow DC:

35 Modifier + Stunning +10 + Combat Mastery +5 + LD +6 + 10 Base + 3 Past lives + 5 Enhancement + 2 fearsome presence = 76 in full DPS mode (77 if weapon attachment doesn't work out, and the points are spent on the third fighter tactic)

Adamantine Cloak of Bear = 78

Someone helps with Primal scream = 79

Once Strength +11 Belt is acquired, potentially an 80 with a slight ED point accommodation for an additional STR.

Trip DC with Bladesmark:

81 in full dps mode (82 , 83, 84, 85 respectively)

Videos:

EE EDA Mostly ESOS + Earth Stance (24:16)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3qEL7qMV4k

EE EDA Thunder Forged Falchion + Wind Stance (23:43)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPZhiekDJdQ

when you level up did you put all your points into strength?

[Drwaz99]

when you level up did you put all your points into strength?

Yes.

[Cetus]

when you level up did you put all your points into strength?

No, I hit intel a bit because my swim was low.

[plukje]

No, I hit intel a bit because my swim was low.

do i sense some sarcasm there? =p haha

[Jurgi]

Cetus Sir,
Could u please type ur level up order?

[Cetus]

Cetus Sir,
Could u please type ur level up order?

I don't have one - this build is intentionally posted as an end-product. Leveling order is up to your preference, there is no right way to do it.