Cetus: The Supreme Bladeforged Fighter

[Cetus]

Wait, were you planning a dual wield build or something??

Thought about it

[kierg10]

Thought about it

but you can't duel wield eSOS's D:

[Cetus]

but you can't duel wield eSOS's D:

Thunder-forged falchion is where its at for now

I'll be redoing the gear layout soon - still acquiring the items the hard way... (EN and EH just aren't fun)

[unbongwah]

Why falchion rather than greataxe?

[PsychoJester]

Why falchion rather than greataxe?

Crit chances, i was thinking at falchion too.
Or scimmies for the dual wielding.

[painkiller3]

Thunder-forged falchion is where its at for now

I'll be redoing the gear layout soon - still acquiring the items the hard way... (EN and EH just aren't fun)

Looking forward to new gear layout...what are you using on tier 3 on your falchion?

[Nodoze]

Crit chances, i was thinking at falchion too.
Or scimmies for the dual wielding.

For TWF wouldn't the new Khopesh's be better than Scimitars?

For THF, how close are the new Falchions vs. the new Great Axes with Headman's chop?

[Choopak]

For TWF wouldn't the new Khopesh's be better than Scimitars?

For THF, how close are the new Falchions vs. the new Great Axes with Headman's chop?

On my server, i saw a couple GAxes, but no falchions... so might be an indication...
They look freaking good dho...

[Drwaz99]

They look freaking good dho...

Matte black versions of the Hellstroke GA..so kinda rehashed but it certainly could be worse.

[Drwaz99]

Why falchion rather than greataxe?

As a couple people posted earlier:

They are slightly less damage than Greatswords's (F 2d4; BDR:30.48 vs GS 2d6; BDR:36.85) but on this build with TF weapons a Falcion will crit on a range of 13-20 while the GS will on do 17-20. both are x2. So the crits will be smaller in number, they will be much more often.

[Wipey]

Falchion kensei with IC crits on 13 mate.

[Eth]

Falchion kensei with IC crits on 13 mate.

...and you gt 299 average extra damage on every crit (69 bleeding + 230 fire). That damage doesn't scale while blitzing though.

Has anyone run the numbers of GA vs Falchion in full blitz-mode?

[Drwaz99]

Falchion kensei with IC crits on 13 mate.

Yep mistype. Fixed.

Of note for the newer people: The weapon display on the inventory doesn't work correctly and shows 15-20 for falchions not the 13-20

[molyincide]

Gear:

Necklace: EE Stolen Necklace w/ Insightful +2 Charisma Slotted, Charisma +10, and Accuracy +9 (This is useful for manyshotting, sometimes the bow grazes)
Helmet:: EE Black Dragon Helmet w/ +3 Insightful Constitution Yellow Slot: Globe of True Imperial Blood Green Slot: Good Luck +2
Goggles: Deadly X of Resistance +10
Armor: Flawless Black Dragonscale Docent: Slotted PRR +16 Epic Bladesmark Docent is also a powerful supplement
Bracer: Skirmisher's Bracers: Dexterity +9 and Doublestrike +8%
Ring 1: EE Consuming Darkness: Constitution +8, Combat Mastery +5, Seeker +12
Ring 2: Seal of Dun'Robar: Stunning +10
Boots: EE Goatskin Boots w/ Fortification +115, Yellow Slot: +2 insightful Dexterity, Green Slot: Wisdom +7
Gloves: EE Backstabber's Gloves: Sneak Attack +5, Exceptional Sneak attack +3, Improved Deception, Bluff +20, Yellow Slot: +250 Spell Points
Belt: Ogre Power +10 Belt of False life 45
Cloak: Adamantine Cloak of the Wolf: Exceptional Seeker +5, Attack bonus +4
Trinket: Litany of the Dead

Weapon: Epic Sword of Shadows: Red Slot: Repair Spellpower + 138 Augment, Colorless: Insightful +2 Wisdom

Still Looking to get:

Deadly XI of Resistance 10 Goggles
Ogre Power 11 of False Life 50 Belt

Hey Cetus, with the new raid loot available, do the following gear swaps look like something you would agree upon?

Swap belt for: http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Battlerager%27s_Harness green slot: (DEX +8)

Swap bracers for: Ogre power of False life

Swap Black Dragon Helm +3 CON for : Dragon Masque which gives

Insightful Sneak Attack Bonus +6 Insightful Sneak Attack Bonus
Deception
Deadly XI
Shadow Spike: On Damage: Do an additional 2d6 Negative Energy damage
Yellow Augment Slot (+2 Insightful CON)
Colorless Augment Slot (Free slot now)

Globe moves to Consuming Darkness

Assuming use of falchion, you'll have fort bypass on it which I don't believe stacks with black dragonscale, meaning you can swap it for shadowscale. Slot that with PRR/Good luck.

Since shadowscale means more fort, you can switch your boots to a +8 CON version, and free up consuming darkness slot.

From there you would have the option to select whatever goggles you want (but you'll still need resistance somewhere), and choose between shadow disciple and shadow stalker.

All of the moves in terms of raid loot makes sense, but from there it kind of splits off into a bunch of different paths which are all pretty decent.

Thoughts?

[Cetus]

Hey Cetus, with the new raid loot available, do the following gear swaps look like something you would agree upon?

Swap belt for: http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Battlerager%27s_Harness green slot: (DEX +8)

Swap bracers for: Ogre power of False life

Swap Black Dragon Helm +3 CON for : Dragon Masque which gives

Insightful Sneak Attack Bonus +6 Insightful Sneak Attack Bonus
Deception
Deadly XI
Shadow Spike: On Damage: Do an additional 2d6 Negative Energy damage
Yellow Augment Slot (+2 Insightful CON)
Colorless Augment Slot (Free slot now)

Globe moves to Consuming Darkness

Assuming use of falchion, you'll have fort bypass on it which I don't believe stacks with black dragonscale, meaning you can swap it for shadowscale. Slot that with PRR/Good luck.

Since shadowscale means more fort, you can switch your boots to a +8 CON version, and free up consuming darkness slot.

From there you would have the option to select whatever goggles you want (but you'll still need resistance somewhere), and choose between shadow disciple and shadow stalker.

All of the moves in terms of raid loot makes sense, but from there it kind of splits off into a bunch of different paths which are all pretty decent.

Thoughts?

That's not a bad set up - but what I have in mind will generate more dps - I'll share a few thoughts now, although I haven't conclusively decided upon this yet:

Keep Blackscale set - 3% doublestrike isn't available on shadowscale, 5% damage from relentless fury

Get New belt, slot it with false life probably

Get new bracers

------------At this point, doublestrike has been upgraded from 9% to 12% (I get hit plenty of times in this new content to pretty much guarantee it, but i haven't used it in practice yet)
------------Bracers upgrade my 9 dex to 11 dex, give me 30PRR (which liberates an augment), and gives 45 resists across the board

Issue: I lose Strength 10

Either:

a) Live with -2 Str

b) Give up the new bracers, and go with something more like you said, an ogre set of bracers

Choice B is the higher DPS option - but I haven't decided yet, the 30 PRR, resists, and extra dex are attractive

I've been grazing occasionally with my manyshot, so I need to make some to-hit adjustments there, the extra dex will help

[Cetus]

Updated OP with an EE Devil's Assault solo, which was motivated by haeks 25 minute or under challenge in his zeus thread.

[lyrecono]

fort bypass of different numbers have always stacked, take the black scale and WW fort bypass falchion into the orchard, its a masacere.
The reason you dont do as many crits in the new content is due to the higher fort in there (the undead seem to have 100+ fort)

if weilding 2 weapons, wat would you put up there cetus?

[Cetus]

fort bypass of different numbers have always stacked, take the black scale and WW fort bypass falchion into the orchard, its a masacere.
The reason you dont do as many crits in the new content is due to the higher fort in there (the undead seem to have 100+ fort)

if weilding 2 weapons, wat would you put up there cetus?

I remain skeptical about the claim that fort from black + ww stack.

[unbongwah]

I remain skeptical about the claim that fort from black + ww stack.

That's what the wiki claims is how armor-piercing works; not sure how you'd go about verifying that, though. Run some tests on the training dummy, I guess.

[Choopak]

Sooooooo Falchion or Great axe? for thunder forged weapon?
Falchion have a better crit range, G-Axe have headsmanchop
But who's optimal?