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    Default Cormyrean Knight TWF w/Nightmares

    I'm thinking about build utilizing Cormyrean Knight Training and dual wielding Nightmares. Using Max Charisma for attack and damage, it would also highly benefit from divine grace. Maybe there is already a build like this out there so share a link if ya know one please.

    This is what I've thrown together quick and realize its far from optimal now. I know I've got some saving throw feats in there I should probably change to tacticals Would like some ideas as I'm thinking about turning my 2nd life fighter into something like this. I've got mostly +2 tome but do have a +5 Mabar I could do whatever I like with.

    Level 28 Lawful Good Purple Dragon Knight Male
    (15 Fighter / 3 Paladin / 2 Monk / 8 Epic)
    Hit Points: 448
    Spell Points: 0

    BAB: 19/19/24/29/29
    Fortitude: 28
    Reflex: 24
    Will: 27

    Starting Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
    (32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28)
    Strength 11 13
    Dexterity 15 17
    Constitution 15 17
    Intelligence 11 14
    Wisdom 8 10
    Charisma 16 26

    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11



    1: (Human Bonus) Force of Personality
    1: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    1: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    2: (Fighter Bonus) Dodge
    3: Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
    4: (Fighter Bonus) Power Critical
    6: Lightning Reflexes
    6: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    8: (Fighter Bonus) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Bastard Sword
    9: Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    10: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    12: Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    12: (Fighter Bonus) Impproved Two Weapon Fighting
    13: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
    14: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
    15: Adept of Forms
    18: Master of Forms
    19: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    21: Epic: Great Charisma
    24: Luck of Heroes
    26: Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    27: Epic: Blinding Speed
    28: Epic Destiny: Elusive Target
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    Are all of those tomes neccessary? Which ones are absolutely required for this build?
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    Looks like he needs +2 DEX for ITWF/GTWF and +2 STR for Power Atk. Also he probably started INT 11 because he had a +3 INT tome, so that evens it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahalko128 View Post
    Are all of those tomes neccessary? Which ones are absolutely required for this build?
    Those are just the tomes I've currently used. See unbongwahs comment as that pretty much sums up.
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    What stat/s did you increase upon level ups?
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    Question: Why did you take Improved Critical if you're focusing on Nightmares, which already have Keen on them?

    EDIT: And what levels did you take your paladin and monk?
    Last edited by Mahalko128; 12-20-2013 at 01:57 PM.
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    What is the int for? Am not too familiar with CK enhancements, so the int seems very much a dump stat. If you need it for skill points, I can see it. However you may want it left at 8.

    Feat wise, I would drop lightning reflexes and try to get grandmaster of forms. This should allow you to shift up other feats into the lower levels and get their benefits earlier on.

    Also you can drop the other saves feats probably as well. I dunno if you picked them to max your saves or not.

    Then you could take a udm skill spec, put points into it, take warforged, take lord of blades, drop to 12/6/2 and have double tensers and then some. But that may not help for the whole cha thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seikojin View Post
    Then you could take a udm skill spec, put points into it, take warforged, take lord of blades, drop to 12/6/2 and have double tensers and then some. But that may not help for the whole cha thing.
    LOL yea then it becomes a completely different thing. The whole idea is having a max Charisma build using synergy of Cormyrean Knight Training and Divine Grace, to maximize hit, damage, and Saves all with Charisma
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahalko128 View Post
    Question: Why did you take Improved Critical if you're focusing on Nightmares, which already have Keen on them?

    EDIT: And what levels did you take your paladin and monk?
    I didn't think of that. Nightmare would be primary weapon but there are a lot of other heavy blades I would use so I would probably keep the IC.

    Originally, I was going to take Monk 13, 14, and Pally 15, 16, 17. Ultimately though, the whole build and Charisma-stat-for-all thing has a lot of holes in it. It still might be fun For Cormyr! PDK theme build. I'd also like to see how well dual wielding nightmares can keep ones health up, in normal combat situations.

    If I do decide to proceed, I'm thinking a 9 monk, 8 fighter, 3 pally might be better. This is for the Improved evasion and extra run speed so I wont fall behind in earth stance.

    My revised idea would look more like this:

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    Level 28 Lawful Good Purple Dragon Knight Male
    (8 Fighter \ 3 Paladin \ 9 Monk \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 411
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
    Fortitude: 28
    Reflex: 22
    Will: 27
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
    Strength             11                    13
    Dexterity            15                    17
    Constitution         15                    17
    Intelligence          8                    11
    Wisdom                8                    10
    Charisma             17                    26
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 25
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 28)
    Balance               2                    34
    Bluff                 3                    16
    Concentration         2                    11
    Diplomacy             3                    16
    Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
    Haggle                3                    16
    Heal                 -1                    14
    Hide                  2                    11
    Intimidate            7                    37
    Jump                  0                    12
    Listen               -1                     8
    Move Silently         2                    11
    Open Lock             n/a                  n/a
    Perform               n/a                  n/a
    Repair               -1                     8
    Search               -1                     8
    Spellcraft           -1                     8
    Spot                 -1                     8
    Swim                  0                    10
    Tumble                n/a                  12
    Use Magic Device      5                    27
    
    Level 1 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Force of Personality
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 2 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Deity) Favored by Amaunator
    
    
    Level 3 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Quick Draw
    
    
    Level 4 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 5 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
    
    
    Level 6 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Deflect Arrows
    Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 7 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
    
    
    Level 8 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 9 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 10 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Bastard Sword
    
    
    Level 11 (Fighter)
    
    
    Level 12 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 14 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 15 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms
    
    
    Level 16 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 17 (Fighter)
    
    
    Level 18 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Dodge
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 19 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 20 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Great Charisma
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Luck of Heroes
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Elusive Target
    Sarlona
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