TR Paladin to TWF Paladin

[Sipherwoods]

Im planning to TR my Human 15 Pal / 3 Rog / 2 Fighter into a Human 12 Pal / 6 Rng / 2 Rog TWF Paladin. What would be a good place to take the classes? Thats my major problem with thinking of my own builds. Planning to focus on Longswords for Oathblade or Tinah. Not gonna bother with trapping cause i dont think it will be possible anyway. Ive got 34 Points to build with since its TR and a +2 Str/Dex tome applied already.

[Ralmeth]

Im planning to TR my Human 15 Pal / 3 Rog / 2 Fighter into a Human 12 Pal / 6 Rng / 2 Rog TWF Paladin. What would be a good place to take the classes? Thats my major problem with thinking of my own builds. Planning to focus on Longswords for Oathblade or Tinah. Not gonna bother with trapping cause i dont think it will be possible anyway. Ive got 34 Points to build with since its TR and a +2 Str/Dex tome applied already.

It seems a shame that once you have 12 levels of Paladin, that you don't take 2 more to pick up zeal for 10% doublestrike. One more level after that gets you cure serious wounds or deathward. I think that's why it's tricky to make a Paladin / Ranger TWF combo. Ideally a Paladin will have at least 15 Paladin levels.

[Thalone]

Traps are absolutely doable. Human Rangers get six skill points per level. Search (1 pt), Concentration (1 pt), Disable (2 pts). The two left over can be put into Spot if you don't know trap locations, or UMD for buffs/Heal scrolls. Most locks in heroic can be opened with four base skill points and level-appropriate gear. Search/Disable don't have to be always maxed; there will be some leeway if you gear/buff properly.

However, I would advise getting a +2 INT tome to shore up the skill points on your Paladin levels, or putting build points into INT. If you start with STR 16, DEX 15 (to qualify for GTWF with +2 tome), CON 14/16, you will have 8/6 build points left over for CHA/INT. WIS is a dump stat for Ranger/Paladin: use an item or Owl's Wisdom pot to enable casting.

As for levelling order, Rogue first to maximise skill points. You probably want to have 6 Ranger at about level 12 so you can grab GTWF and go TWF full-time (prior to that, THF cleaving is better). Your second Rogue level should be taken some time after the +2 INT tome kicks in at level 7, to shore up skill points from your Paladin levels. Paladin levels should be taken earlyish as their KotC/smite damage bonuses versus evil/undead are helpful in the lower levels.

[Sipherwoods]

So something like this? Ill grab a +2 Int tome from Favor on this life also. Or pray i find a +2 upgrade, since ive got a +1 laying around somewhere i think.

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Level 28 Lawful Good Human Female
(12 Paladin \ 2 Rogue \ 6 Ranger \ 8 Epic) 
Hit Points: 384
Spell Points: 310 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 19
Reflex: 18
Will: 8

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
Strength             16                    26
Dexterity            15                    17
Constitution         14                    17
Intelligence         12                    12
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma             14                    14

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Cleave
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Paladin)
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Sovereign Host


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge


Level 4 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead


Level 5 (Ranger)


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 7 (Ranger)


Level 8 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Rogue)


Level 11 (Paladin)


Level 12 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 13 (Paladin)


Level 14 (Paladin)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell


Level 16 (Paladin)


Level 17 (Paladin)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility


Level 19 (Paladin)


Level 20 (Paladin)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Defense


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed


Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Human Adaptability: Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Ambidexterity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Ambidexterity (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Human - Ambidexterity (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Heroism (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Greater Heroism (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Holy Bastion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Divine Righteousness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Item Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Item Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Item Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Remove Disease (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Remove Disease (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Remove Disease (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Demons (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Sealed Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Shield of Whirling Steel (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Tempest (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Graceful Death (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 3)

[Battlehawke]

Why not go two Monk instead of Two rogue if you are not going to be a trapper. You can still run in light armor and get evasion while also gaining Two Feats?

You should focus on 15 Paladin/3 Ranger/2 Monk. You would have enough Feats to get TWF X3, PA, Cleave, Great Cleave, Overwhelming Critical, Improved Critical Ranged, Improved Critical Slashing and if Human you could throw in Toughness or Empower Healing. You must be careful of WHEN you select your Feats. It's a very enjoyable Class mix, with tremendous Burst DPS, Burst Ranged w/ Fury Shot, unbelievable saves with Evasion (all in mid 60's), Huge Dodge, Low AC, and decent PRR. I truly enjoy mine. With Cacoon you are almost Unkillable.

Make something similar with a Blade forged and it really gets nasty.....

[Sipherwoods]

Hm if i did go 2 Monk, what feats would i take when? and also, what would be some good robes to look for? Im mainly using Whisperchain atm since i cant ever get the Dusk/Blur ring from PoP. Ah, i wouldnt be centered anyway though. Hmm. Something like this maybe?

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Level 28 Lawful Good Human Female
(15 Paladin \ 2 Monk \ 3 Ranger \ 8 Epic) 
Hit Points: 394
Spell Points: 260 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 21
Reflex: 18
Will: 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
Strength             16                    25
Dexterity            15                    18
Constitution         14                    17
Intelligence         12                    12
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma             14                    14

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Cleave
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Paladin)
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Sovereign Host


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge


Level 4 (Ranger)


Level 5 (Ranger)


Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Mobility


Level 7 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Deflect Arrows


Level 8 (Paladin)


Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Paladin)


Level 11 (Paladin)


Level 12 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 13 (Paladin)


Level 14 (Paladin)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell


Level 16 (Paladin)


Level 17 (Paladin)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 19 (Paladin)


Level 20 (Paladin)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Defense


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed


Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Epic Spell Power: Positive
Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Human Adaptability: Dexterity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Ambidexterity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Ambidexterity (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Human - Ambidexterity (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Heroism (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Greater Heroism (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Remove Disease (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Remove Disease (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Remove Disease (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Demons (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Sealed Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Shield of Whirling Steel (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Tempest (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Holy Bastion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Divine Righteousness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Item Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Item Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Item Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 1)

[unbongwah]

It seems a shame that once you have 12 levels of Paladin, that you don't take 2 more to pick up zeal for 10% doublestrike. One more level after that gets you cure serious wounds or deathward. I think that's why it's tricky to make a Paladin / Ranger TWF combo. Ideally a Paladin will have at least 15 Paladin levels.

Yeah, paladins don't get much between lvls 6 and 14, unfortunately; most of the lvl 2 & 3 spells stink and the core enhs are weak. If you're not going for at least pal 14, I would stop at 6 and many will tell you to stop at 4.

OP: here's a build I'm considering LR+20ing one of my drow pallies into, now that pure pallies are so weak. It's basically a TWF variant on Pyrene. Perhaps it will give you some ideas.

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Level 28 Lawful Good Drow Female
(14 Paladin \ 2 Monk \ 4 Ranger \ 8 Epic) 
Hit Points: 359
Spell Points: 280 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 23
Reflex: 20
Will: 12

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
Strength             16                    27
Dexterity            16                    19
Constitution         12                    14
Intelligence         10                    12
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma             16                    18

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 28)
Balance               3                    20
Bluff                 3                    12
Concentration         5                    33
Diplomacy             3                    15
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                3                    12
Heal                  3                    30
Hide                  3                    12
Intimidate            3                    12
Jump                  7                    20
Listen               -1                     9
Move Silently         7                    16
Open Lock             n/a                  n/a
Perform               n/a                  n/a
Repair                0                     9
Search                0                    11
Spellcraft            0                     9
Spot                  3                    15
Swim                  3                    16
Tumble                n/a                  13
Use Magic Device      5                    23

Level 1 (Ranger)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Heal (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 2 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Feat: (Deity) Favored by Vulkoor


Level 3 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+3)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 5 (Paladin)
Skill: Heal (+2)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 7 (Paladin)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 8 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Heal (+3)


Level 9 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Precision


Level 10 (Paladin)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 11 (Paladin)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 12 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+5)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 13 (Paladin)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 14 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Heal (+1)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons


Level 16 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Heal (+1)


Level 17 (Paladin)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 18 (Ranger)
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Spot (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot


Level 19 (Paladin)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Remove Disease (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Remove Disease (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Remove Disease (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Demons (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Passion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Outsiders (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Sealed Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Holy Bastion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Divine Righteousness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Shield of Whirling Steel (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Tempest (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Reaction (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Reaction (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Far Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Sneak Attack (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Increased Empathy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Increased Empathy (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Increased Empathy (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Versatile Empathy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Versatile Empathy (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Morphic Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Conjure Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Bastion of Purity (Rank 1)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell


Level 28 (Epic)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Elusive Target

For healing I'll be relying on (Endless) LoHs and Rejuv Cocoon + Emp Heal; EotW / Echoes of Power from AA means I'll have enough SPs for Cocoon (or CMW while it's on cooldown). Here's hoping I don't regret that!

BTW, robes are only necessary on a monk splash if you plan to be centered or want the WIS bonus to AC; otherwise, Evasion works just fine in light armor.

[Battlehawke]

Ultimately you want the 2 levels of Monk for the evasion and two free feats. You will not run in stance and should look for the best light Armor that allows a good PRR and Dodge. Your saves with Evasion will make your build incredibly survivable. DPS in groups should be in Fury for some limited CC and Furyshot. Solo in LD for some real fun. Get Cacoon as fast as you can and you'll really be loving the build. Build your enhancements for DPS and survivability. Your HP will be around 750 at Lvl 28 which isn't bad with the endless healing that you have. Your AC will never be great and your DPS will never be the best but it will be pretty great for a Paladin.


1. M: Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Power Attack
2. M: Toughness (Evasion)
3. R: Cleave, FE: Giants (Bow Strength)
4. R: (Rapid Shot)
5. P
6. P: Great Cleave, (Divine Grace)
7-8. P
9. P: Improved TWF
10-11. P
12. P: Manyshot
13-14. P
15. P: Improved Critical: Slashing
16-17. P
18. P: Improved Critical: Ranged
19. P
20. M: Light Path
21. Greater TWF
24. Overwhelming Critical
26. Perfect TWF
27. Empower Healing
28. Elusive Target

[Irenae]

Yeah, Paladin is a class that you should only invest 2-3 levels as a splash or go to at least 15 you do not gain much benefit otherwise. 2 levels of either rogue or monk is strongly recommended for the evasion feat, and probably 1-2 levels of fighter for free tower shield and 1-2 additional feats. The only bad thing is you will only get 2 spell slots at level four spells, and that's where Paladins have some of their best spells, but the tradeoff is worth it.