The Attention Grabber a Charisma based Centered Drow Stunner...for real...

[ReturningKing]

The Attention Grabber a 12 Fighter/ 4 Paladin/ 4 Monk Drow centered maul weilder with a 73 stunning blow.

This is a 36 point Build

12 Fighter for power surge
4 Paladin for Divine Might
4 Monk for Evasion and all the other great Monk Stuff

With an endgame Charisma in the mid 40's (18 base+4 tome+ 4 level ups+3 enhan+10 item+1 excep+2 insight+2 ship +2 pot)= 46 That means +18 mod going to Str

Strength (16 base+4 tome+3 level ups+2 enhan+10 item +1 excep+2 ship+2 pot+2 rage+5 Primal Scream +1 from ED)= 50 + 18 from DM + 8 Power Surge = 76 Strength (can probably hit 80 with some modification to my destinies)

Stunning Blow 10 +33 Str mod +13 (Dazing VIII from EH Giant's Fist (because I have one)) +5 Combat Mastery +3 Enhan +2 Tactician +6 legendary tactics +1 Fighter Past Life = 73 Stunning DC (I don't think 80 is unobtainable with some creative thinking or I may be missing some things here)'

If you add +2 Madstone Rage from Boots and +4 Alchemical from Tensor's (neither of which prevent DM, PS, LOH or Cocoon from being cast) Strength is up to 82 and Stunning Blow DC is 76.

With One with the Blade and Grand Master of Forms, PRR should be between 44 and 70 depending on destiny and twists.

Thanks to Charisma bonus and Force of Personality all Saves 60+

Healing- 7 regenerating Lay on Hands each hitting for approx. 500hp, UMD 40+ for heal scrolls and Empowered Heal Cocoons

Exalted Smites would be nice but don't have the Enhancement points available.

Thoughts and comments are appreciated. This is just on paper. I will/will not be TRing into this once more knowledgeable people have pointed out its obvious solidness/flaws.

Thanks for looking.

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Theradok take 3
Level 28 Lawful Good Drow Male
(12 Fighter \ 4 Paladin \ 4 Monk \ 8 Epic) 
Hit Points: 419
Spell Points: 203 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 30
Reflex: 21
Will: 28

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 28)           (Level 28)
Strength             16                 23                   25
Dexterity            10                 14                   14
Constitution         14                 18                   18
Intelligence         12                 16                   16
Wisdom                8                 12                   12
Charisma             18                 26                   29

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 2
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 2
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 2
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 2
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 2
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 6
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 6
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 6
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 6
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 6
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 6
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 10
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 10
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 10
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 10
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 10
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 10
+4 Tome of Strength used at level 13
+4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 13
+4 Tome of Constitution used at level 13
+4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 13
+4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 13
+4 Tome of Charisma used at level 13

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 28)
Balance               4                    36
Bluff                 4                    17
Concentration         2                    12
Diplomacy             4                    17
Disable Device        n/a                  n/a
Haggle                5.5                  19
Heal                  1                    32.5
Hide                  0                    10
Intimidate            4                    18
Jump                  7                    27
Listen               -1                    11
Move Silently         0                    10
Open Lock             n/a                  n/a
Perform               n/a                  n/a
Repair                1                    11
Search                1                    13
Spellcraft            1                    11
Spot                 -1                    11
Swim                  3                    15
Tumble                1                    14
Use Magic Device      6                    28

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Handed Fighting


Level 2 (Paladin)
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Sovereign Host


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality


Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: CHA


Level 5 (Paladin)


Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 7 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: CHA


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 10 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 11 (Fighter)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: CHA
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave
Feat: (Selected) Dodge


Level 13 (Fighter)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Great Cleave


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Adept of Forms


Level 16 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 17 (Fighter)


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms


Level 19 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light


Level 20 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Grandmaster of Forms


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Tactician


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Damage Reduction


Level 28 (Epic)
Ability Raise: CHA
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Forced Escape
Enhancement: Drow - Spell Resistance (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Drow - Drow Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Drow - Spell Resistance (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Drow - Drow Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Drow - Spell Resistance (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Bastion of Purity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Protection from Tainted Creatures (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Reed in the Wind (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Reed in the Wind (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Reed in the Wind (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Exemplar (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Hunter of the Dead I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Holy Bastion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Focus: Picks and Hammers (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Spiritual Bond (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strike With No Thought (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Power Surge (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Picks and Hammers (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Tactics (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Tactics (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Tactics (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Picks and Hammers (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Improved Dodge (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Improved Dodge (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Weapon Meditation (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Picks and Hammers (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Shattering Strike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Picks and Hammers (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Keen Edge (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - One With The Blade (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Deadly Strike (Rank 1)

[ReturningKing]

Reserved for Gear layout

[Jasparion]

Are you bored with DDO?
Capped your (fill in FOTM here) and waiting for someone to come out with another great build?

If so, then why not give The Attention Grabber a 12 Fighter/ 4 Paladin/ 4 Monk a shot (while you wait for that great build to hit the forums).

FotM build is 12 Fighter / 2 Paladin / 6 Monk, so I guess my question is what you see yourself getting from 2 more Paladin and 2 less Monk?

Sadly the way Paladin and Monk splashes are, you could have 12 levels of pretty much any melee and be OP.

[ReturningKing]

FotM build is 12 Fighter / 2 Paladin / 6 Monk, so I guess my question is what you see yourself getting from 2 more Paladin and 2 less Monk?

Sadly the way Paladin and Monk splashes are, you could have 12 levels of pretty much any melee and be OP.

You need 4 Paly for Turn Undead which are required for Divine Might (I am aware of going just 2 Paly and using the endless turning twist from US, but I chose this route because 3 Paly makes you immune to fear and diseases and 4 Paly adds to LOH total).

[Miow]

You need 4 Paly for Turn Undead which are required for Divine Might (I am aware of going just 2 Paly and using the endless turning twist from US, but I chose this route because 3 Paly makes you immune to fear and diseases and 4 Paly adds to LOH total).

Don't divine might and kensai power surge not stack

edit wait maybe it's gear...

[Arsont]

Don't divine might and kensai power surge not stack

edit wait maybe it's gear...

Divine Might and Power Surge are different types, and will stack.

Power Surge, however, will not stack with Titan's Grips from Mindsunder, as both are Psionic.

At the OP:

Looks like a solid build. I'd say drop GM of Stances since the gains aren't much over Master, but I'm not sure what you could swap it with to get similar returns.

Looking at your stun DC, I see +3 enhancement which I assume is from Kensei. You could get another +6 from being in LD. I'm still waiting on confirmation to what an effective stun DC is, so I can't tell you how much better 71 would be than 65.

How much ap are you missing that you can't pick up tier 1 Exalted Smite? Sometime later I'll have to plug your enhancements into a planner so I can see it better. Not sure how much of an increase it would be in dps, but might be worth reconsidering.

[ReturningKing]

Divine Might and Power Surge are different types, and will stack.

Power Surge, however, will not stack with Titan's Grips from Mindsunder, as both are Psionic.

At the OP:

Looks like a solid build. I'd say drop GM of Stances since the gains aren't much over Master, but I'm not sure what you could swap it with to get similar returns.

Looking at your stun DC, I see +3 enhancement which I assume is from Kensei. You could get another +6 from being in LD. I'm still waiting on confirmation to what an effective stun DC is, so I can't tell you how much better 71 would be than 65.

How much ap are you missing that you can't pick up tier 1 Exalted Smite? Sometime later I'll have to plug your enhancements into a planner so I can see it better. Not sure how much of an increase it would be in dps, but might be worth reconsidering.

Went with GM of Stances for the +1 to Con and the 3 PRR. I have a feeling that the additional 5% to ac is irrelevant. Not sure which feat I would take in its place.

As to exalted smites- I'm running an 11/5/4 Ranger/Palidan/Monk now and have full line of ES. When I'm Adrien surged they are awesome; but I only have 9 of them and they go quickly, even with +30% regen. I have to spend 33 points in kensai to get 1 with blade, so I am limited elsewhere.

Edit op to include +6 legendary tactics to bring stunning blow DC to 71.

[ReturningKing]

Added Fighter Past Life +1 DC bringing total Stunning Blow DC to 72.

[Darkrok]

Looking at your stun DC, I see +3 enhancement which I assume is from Kensei. You could get another +6 from being in LD. I'm still waiting on confirmation to what an effective stun DC is, so I can't tell you how much better 71 would be than 65.

The OP already updated to include legendary tactics but 65-71 is significant in higher level EE's.

[ReturningKing]

Corrected the error in my math (50+18+8=76 Strength, not 74) which ups Stunning Blow DC to 73.

Been running some tests and neither Tensor's nor Madstone Rage inhibit casting Divine Might, Primal Scream, LOH or Cocoon. That would add +2 Madstone Rage and +4 Alchemical Boost to Strength, bring total to 82 and DC up to 76.

May have to dust off the boots and find a way to work them into my gear.

[Arkadios]

Corrected the error in my math (50+18+8=76 Strength, not 74) which ups Stunning Blow DC to 73.

Been running some tests and neither Tensor's nor Madstone Rage inhibit casting Divine Might, Primal Scream, LOH or Cocoon. That would add +2 Madstone Rage and +4 Alchemical Boost to Strength, bring total to 82 and DC up to 76.

May have to dust off the boots and find a way to work them into my gear.

Could use use an Adamantine Cloak of the Bear for +6 Combat Mastery rather than +5, would bring DC to 77.

[Darkrok]

Added Fighter Past Life +1 DC bringing total Stunning Blow DC to 72.

Is there a reason that this build went Drow? Human could spend 3ap in core to pick up +1 charisma and Action Boost: Damage (allows double-boosts). In addition they could spend 3 more ap in human (your build spent 7 total points in Drow so we have them free) to pick up +3 charisma during action boosts to draw even with Drow in charisma while boosts are running. Since Power Surge counts as an Action Boost this will be most of the time that we'll be even in charisma. In addition, if we wanted to do so we could spend 2 more AP for one more point of strength all the time and 3 more AP for 3 more points of strength during Action Boosts.That would require a total of 12AP in the human tree for the +4 total to strength during surges as well as another Action Boost (most likely saves to provide no-fail on a 1 when needed) so we'd have to cut 5ap somewhere else for the extra strength. Just to pull even though actually takes 6ap instead of the 7 spent in the Drow tree.

We lose the Spell Resistance but don't lose any skill points from the int difference (human bonus there makes up for the lower int) and we do lose two points of dex as well but that really just amounts to 1 point on reflex saves. We gain an extra feat and 2 points of con. If you could shake free even more AP you could consider the DDoor dragonmark (only costs 3 more AP) but again, there are other feats you could take and I understand AP is tight on this build.

[ReturningKing]

Is there a reason that this build went Drow? Human could spend 3ap in core to pick up +1 charisma and Action Boost: Damage (allows double-boosts). In addition they could spend 3 more ap in human (your build spent 7 total points in Drow so we have them free) to pick up +3 charisma during action boosts to draw even with Drow in charisma while boosts are running. Since Power Surge counts as an Action Boost this will be most of the time that we'll be even in charisma. In addition, if we wanted to do so we could spend 2 more AP for one more point of strength all the time and 3 more AP for 3 more points of strength during Action Boosts.That would require a total of 12AP in the human tree for the +4 total to strength during surges as well as another Action Boost (most likely saves to provide no-fail on a 1 when needed) so we'd have to cut 5ap somewhere else for the extra strength. Just to pull even though actually takes 6ap instead of the 7 spent in the Drow tree.

We lose the Spell Resistance but don't lose any skill points from the int difference (human bonus there makes up for the lower int) and we do lose two points of dex as well but that really just amounts to 1 point on reflex saves. We gain an extra feat and 2 points of con. If you could shake free even more AP you could consider the DDoor dragonmark (only costs 3 more AP) but again, there are other feats you could take and I understand AP is tight on this build.

I think I have a soft spot for Drow.

You make some good points about the benefit to go Human over Drow, but there are tradeoffs. Losing 2 points in Dex means more than -1 to Reflex. It also means that my Dex will only reach 12 without using any AP. Therefore, no Dodge, as it requires a 13 Dex. and No Kensai improved Dodge.

My SR stands at 44 with current layout, 1 moe AP in Drow tree would get it up to 46. Helpful in current EH but not sure that is relevant in EE.

If I were to go human and equal out my Drow Charisma through the+3 Action Boost line then when I am out of Action Boosts my charisma suffers as well as my strength. In EE content I frequently burn through my 10 boosts before getting the opportunity to shrine.

AP are really tight on this build. I cannot even find 1 AP to move to boost my SR to 46.

Thanks for the input, definitely these are things for me to consider.

[ReturningKing]

I decided to take this build from theory to game and I am Level 15 now 9/4/2 Fighter/ Paly/Monk. I made some minor changes to the original plan. Took Monk 2 earlier for the evasion and took cleave, great cleave and power attack earlier than the original plan. It's been great fun. I've been soloing mainly and breezing through most elites. With Divine Might my strength is 40 and can stun almost everything.

Question: I just got the tier 5 enhancement Keen Edge but it doesn't seem to stack with the feat Improved Crit. I've been mainly using a Whirlwind and the crit range is normally 18-20. When I cursor over the item when I equip it, it shows the crit range at 17-20 (+! for Keen Edge) but in the weapons details section of equipment shows the crit range at 15-20. With Keen Edge it should be 14-20. Anyone else seen this?


EDIT: I tested out the above possible issue and Keen Edge is added to crit range before Improved Crit doubles it; the crit range with Whirlwind is 13-20. Wow!

[Scrag]

Why empower healing??? Can scrolls/wands/loh/cocoon be empowered?

[Rawrargh]

Why empower healing??? Can scrolls/wands/loh/cocoon be empowered?

cocoon can

[Scrag]

cocoon can

So thats an ED thing... Why take empower healing at 6 for an ability you cant use until 20+?

Wouldnt it make more sense to shift things down a bit, with at least moving adept of forms from 15 to 6 and empower from 6 to 15? At least you could get some use out of adept while leveling instead of burning a feat for an ability you can't use for ages....

[ReturningKing]

So thats an ED thing... Why take empower healing at 6 for an ability you cant use until 20+?.

I took Empowered Healing early because my 1 Paladin spell is Cure light Wounds. With Empowered Healing it hits for @40 hp a pop. At low levels that's a good percentage of total hp and worth using. As my umd goes up to the point that heal scrolls are a viable option then it loses its value. I don't take Adept of Forms until 15 because until I get One with the Blade I am almost never in a monk stance and centered.