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    Default Morninglord or PDK for melee Bard

    I've got 2 builds thought out and I'm looking for some opinions on both. My plan was creating a melee Bard with viable healing and CC skills. So basically just like everyone else lol. It's for a new character, so basically no gear yet (aside for some things which are BtA or my alts can craft).

    Morninglord version:
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    Level 28 True Neutral Morninglord Male
    (2 Barbarian \ 1 Cleric \ 17 Bard \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 330
    Spell Points: 859 
    BAB: 14\14\19\24
    Fortitude: 12
    Reflex: 9
    Will: 11
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 28)           (Level 28)
    Strength             16                 17                   17
    Dexterity             8                  8                    8
    Constitution         14                 14                   14
    Intelligence         12                 12                   12
    Wisdom                8                  8                    8
    Charisma             16                 22                   24
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 28)          (Level 28)
    Balance              -1                  4                   13
    Bluff                 3                  7                   15
    Concentration         6                 25                   33
    Diplomacy             3                  7                   15
    Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                3                  7                   15
    Heal                  3                 22                   30
    Hide                 -1                 -1                    7
    Intimidate            3                  7                   15
    Jump                  3                 26                   35
    Listen               -1                 -1                    7
    Move Silently        -1                 -1                    7
    Open Lock            n/a               n/a                    n/a
    Perform               n/a               30                   38
    Repair                1                  1                    9
    Search                1                  1                    9
    Spellcraft            1                  1                    9
    Spot                 -1                 -1                    7
    Swim                  3                  3                   12
    Tumble               n/a               n/a                    n/a
    Use Magic Device      5                 30                   38
    
    Level 1 (Cleric)
    Skill: Concentration (+4)
    Skill: Heal (+4)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    Feat: (Deity) Favored by Amaunator
    Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+4)
    
    
    Level 3 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+2)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)
    
    
    Level 5 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Jump (+5)
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+2)
    Skill: Heal (+1.5)
    Skill: Perform (+2)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1.5)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    
    
    Level 9 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Jump (+5)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+2)
    Skill: Heal (+1.5)
    Skill: Perform (+2)
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1.5)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+2)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+2)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+2)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Inspire Excellence
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Lasting Inspiration
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
    
    Enhancement: Morninglord - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Morninglord - Rejuvenation of Dawn (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Morninglord - Rejuvenation of Dawn (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Morninglord - Blessing of Amaunator (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Morninglord - Blessing of Amaunator (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Morninglord - Blessing of Amaunator (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Morninglord - Enchantment Lore (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Morninglord - Enchantment Lore (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Morninglord - Enchantment Lore (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Morninglord - Feywild Tap (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Morninglord - Feywild Tap (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Morninglord - Feywild Tap (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Morninglord - Fey Sight (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spellsinger (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Magical Studies (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Magical Studies (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Smite Foe (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Die Hard (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Die Harder (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Die Harder (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Die Harder (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Athletics (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Angry Arms (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Angry Arms (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Angry Arms (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Furious Rage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Skaldic Rage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Fighting Spirit (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Song of Heroism (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Fighting Spirit (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Inspired Bravery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Inspired Bravery (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Inspired Bravery (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - The Poetic Edda (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - The Poetic Edda (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - The Poetic Edda (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Enchant Weapon (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Iced Edges (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Gathering Cold (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Obstinance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Obstinance (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Obstinance (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Northwind (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - High Spirits (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - High Spirits (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - High Spirits (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Armorer (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Howl of the North (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Weapon Training (Rank 1)
    Purple Dragon Knight version:
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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.19.03
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    Level 28 True Neutral Purple Dragon Knight Male
    (1 Fighter \ 2 Barbarian \ 17 Bard \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 360
    Spell Points: 729 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 13
    Reflex: 9
    Will: 17
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 28)           (Level 28)
    Strength             16                 17                   17
    Dexterity             8                  8                    8
    Constitution         16                 16                   16
    Intelligence         10                 10                   10
    Wisdom                8                  8                    8
    Charisma             16                 22                   25
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 28)          (Level 28)
    Balance              -1                 22                   31
    Bluff                 3                  7                   15
    Concentration         3                 26                   34
    Diplomacy             3                  8                   16
    Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                3                  7                   15
    Heal                  1                 10                   18
    Hide                 -1                 -1                    7
    Intimidate            3                  7                   15
    Jump                  7                 26                   35
    Listen               -1                 -1                    7
    Move Silently        -1                 -1                    7
    Open Lock            n/a               n/a                    n/a
    Perform               n/a               30                   38
    Repair                0                  0                    8
    Search                0                  0                    8
    Spellcraft            0                  0                    8
    Spot                 -1                 -1                    7
    Swim                  3                  3                   12
    Tumble               n/a               n/a                    n/a
    Use Magic Device      5                 30                   38
    
    Level 1 (Fighter)
    Skill: Heal (+2)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Force of Personality
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
    Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+2)
    Skill: Perform (+5)
    
    
    Level 3 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+4)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    
    
    Level 5 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+2)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+2)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Balance (+3)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 9 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+2)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+2)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Jump (+2)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Inspire Excellence
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Lasting Inspiration
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Human Adaptability: Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Cormyrean Knight Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Great Weapon Aptitude (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Great Weapon Aptitude (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Great Weapon Aptitude (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Heroism (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Greater Heroism (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Skaldic Rage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Fighting Spirit (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Song of Heroism (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Fighting Spirit (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Inspired Bravery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Inspired Bravery (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Inspired Bravery (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - The Poetic Edda (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - The Poetic Edda (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - The Poetic Edda (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Enchant Weapon (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Iced Edges (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Gathering Cold (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Obstinance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Obstinance (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Obstinance (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Northwind (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - High Spirits (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - High Spirits (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - High Spirits (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Armorer (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Howl of the North (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Weapon Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spellsinger (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Magical Studies (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Furious Rage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Die Hard (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Die Harder (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Die Harder (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Die Harder (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Athletics (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Angry Arms (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Angry Arms (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Angry Arms (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
    The Morninglord version has the racial buffs of course which imho are it's biggest plus, also 5x Fey Tap for extra SP.

    The PDK version has +30% HAMP, an extra +1 CHA, 30% Haste Boost and permanent CHA to attack/damage while the Morninglord version uses Divine Might for that (at half effectiveness). Downside is they're butt ugly.

    In neither version I can fit Overwhelming Crit without sacrificing a LOT so I plan to do without.

    I'm having trouble making up my mind, so which would you prefer?
    Last edited by Rhaphael; 12-06-2013 at 04:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhaphael View Post

    The PDK version has +30% HAMP, an extra +1 CHA, 30% Haste Boost and permanent CHA to attack/damage
    So couldnt you just dump Str and max cha?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emizand View Post
    So couldnt you just dump Str and max cha?
    I need 13 STR for Power Attack. And 17 STR for Improved Two Handed Fighting. But other than that I DID dump STR and maxed CHA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhaphael View Post
    I need 13 STR for Power Attack. And 17 STR for Improved Two Handed Fighting. But other than that I DID dump STR and maxed CHA.
    My personal favor at the moment goes to PDK. Thinking of indeed dumping strength, probably try to get the rest in dex. and also go for 2WF feat line (previous life has mainly collected rapiers,daggers and short swords).
    Finally, I read you could do a LR and go pure bard if you want the cap (keeping the race, but getting out the first obliged class level).

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    Bard 17 doesn't really get you much; I'd rather stop bard 18 for the core enh (18/1/1 split) or 16 (16/2/2 or 16/3/1). An extra barb level would let you take Mad Munitions (+5% glancing blows) and Supreme Cleave.

    Personally I think CHA-based melee builds are a trap, particularly when you'll have both Div Might and barb Rage. And you've already invested so much into STR to get ITHF/GTHF; might as well go all the way so you can pick up Overwhelming Crit too.
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    Skaldic Rage and Divine Power essentially means that any CHA bonus you have is surpassed by STR anyway. I'd probably end up swinging two longswords or bastard swords and avoid THF.

    The areas I find that interesting are for other class splits or build options primarily.

    Morninglord could be neat; I'd be tempted to go Rogue or Ranger and do a 16/2/2 split there.
    Ghallanda - now with fewer alts and more ghostbane

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    Been running the PDK version as a 16/2/2 (2 fighter for extra feat) and finding it extremely fun and fairly self efficient. I'm not soloing EEs or anything but my CCW's with my HAMP and Emp Healing are hitting for nearly 150 and critting upwards of 240 or so. I solo'd eH VON3 at level 21 with a level 20 ling. My dancing balls are hitting most trash and my irresistible hits a good deal of orange mini bosses.

    I think farming my way through some of the EDs will be interesting as well. Currently working my way through fatesinger and then will jump into the martial sphere to work up to the perfect THF ED feat. I didn't find quicken all that helpful and swapped it to extend for my hastes and displacements. I only wish that PDKs got the dragonmarks as this is screaming for the blesser line.
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