Ranger AA 11r/6m/3pally

[bree22]

Looking for an AA after my completionist lvling is done. I have played straight 20r AA, 11r/9m AA (loved this build back in the day w/tod) and 12m/6r/2ftr.

With all the changes to the game there are so many options now hard to settle on just one lol. So, I was trying to figure out some combos with sweet spots. After looking around 12m/6r/2-what ever seems to be the new thing. But as I was looking 11r/6m could work now that u can get master form with only 6 monk. Diff between 12monk n 11Ranger. Monk you get abundant step, improve evasion and higher fist (but should we be meleeing?). Ranger you get full twf line, 30Resist, a little more sp pts and all AA feats for free.

Now the big question. #1 self healing. lvl 3 pally gets Aura of courage, Divine health, Fear Immunity, lvl 7 monk gets Wholeness of Body to heal between fights. debating between these 2 atm. I would rely on LOH with twist of regen LOH or cocoon.
#2 combat archery - is this worth going for? It didn't work when i was an AA before.

Below is a quick first dry run thru an idea. I will be looking at another version where I go Helf 11r/6m/2 or 3 something else with a dilly of pally n dump dex.

Would appreciate feed back on ideas/adjustments. Looking into 2 or 3 FVS also. I like night shield and hate MM that much lol. not sure if spell craft works on AA arrows elements?


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Level 28 Lawful Good Human Male
(3 Paladin / 6 Monk / 11 Ranger / 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 408
Spell Points: 775

BAB: 18/18/23/28/28
Fortitude: 23
Reflex: 21
Will: 23

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28)
Strength 16 25
Dexterity 14 19
Constitution 14 19
Intelligence 8 13
Wisdom 16 30
Charisma 12 17

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
+4 Tome of Strength used at level 15
+5 Tome of Strength used at level 19

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 28)
Balance 6 35
Bluff 1 13
Concentration 6 37
Diplomacy 1 13
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 1 13
Heal 3 20
Hide 2 14
Intimidate 1 13
Jump 3 22
Listen 3 20
Move Silently 2 14
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 12
Search -1 12
Spellcraft -1 22
Spot 7 43
Swim 3 17
Tumble n/a n/a
Use Magic Device 3 25

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Druid
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Favored Soul
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
Feat: (Human Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist
Feat: (Automatic) AC Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Kama
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves
Feat: (Automatic) Flurry of Blows
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Handaxe
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Club
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Dagger
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Heavy Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Light Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Quarterstaff
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Unarmed
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) The Way of Air
Feat: (Automatic) The Way of Fire
Feat: (Automatic) The Way of Earth
Feat: (Automatic) The Way of Water
Feat: (Automatic) Unarmed Strike

Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy

Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting

Level 4 (Ranger)
Feat: (Automatic) Diehard

Level 5 (Ranger)
Feat: (Automatic) Precise Shot

Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery
Feat: (Automatic) Archer's Focus
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Meditation

Level 7 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Heroic Durability

Level 8 (Ranger)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Manyshot

Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
Feat: (Automatic) Fast Movement
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves: Path of Harmonious Balance (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves: Path of Inevitable Dominion (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Still Mind

Level 10 (Monk)
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Magic
Feat: (Automatic) Slow Fall

Level 11 (Monk)
Feat: (Automatic) Purity of Body

Level 12 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Ten Thousand Stars
Feat: (Automatic) Adept of Forms

Level 13 (Paladin)
Feat: (Automatic) Aura of Good
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Smite Evil

Level 14 (Paladin)
Feat: (Automatic) Divine Grace
Feat: (Automatic) Lay on Hands

Level 15 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Completionist
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Wild Empathy

Level 16 (Ranger)

Level 17 (Ranger)

Level 18 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Elf
Feat: (Selected) Grandmaster of Forms

Level 19 (Ranger)
Feat: (Automatic) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Precise Shot

Level 20 (Paladin)
Feat: (Automatic) Aura of Courage
Feat: (Automatic) Divine Health
Feat: (Automatic) Fear Immunity
Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Human Adaptability: Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Sniper (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Sniper (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Human - Sniper (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Bastion of Purity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Protection from Tainted Creatures (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Smite Tainted Creature (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Jade Strike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Dismissing Strike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Tomb of Jade (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Morphic Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Metalline Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Conjure Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Inferno Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Inferno Shot (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Inferno Shot (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Banishing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Smiting Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arrow of Slaying (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Shield of Whirling Steel (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Tempest (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Item Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Reaction (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Reaction (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Reaction (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Bleed Them Out (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Bleed Them Out (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Bleed Them Out (Rank 3)

Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills

Level 22 (Epic)

Level 23 (Epic)

Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Arcane Prodigy

Level 25 (Epic)

Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Guardian Angel

Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Ruin

Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Doubleshot

[Miow]

Just curious what does 3 pali give you over 12 rger

[bree22]

Just curious what does 3 pali give you over 12 rger

lvl 3 pally gets Aura of courage, Divine health, Fear Immunity

lvl 12 ranger gets a 2nd lvl 3 spell and 15 sp pts and Aligned Arrows (4th of core abilities).

[AtomicMew]

Level 3 benefits are worthless. You want to hit either 2 pally (cha to saves) or 4 pally (turn undead for divine might).

[bree22]

Level 3 benefits are worthless. You want to hit either 2 pally (cha to saves) or 4 pally (turn undead for divine might).

yea that is what i was trying to figure out if lvl 3 pally or lvl 7 monk is better. also tossing around going back to 11r/9m for improve evasion or taking 2 fvs/clr n going helf n taking pally dill but tough there because then i have to put pts into cha to get pally dilly might be a waste of stat pts.

[Arsont]

yea that is what i was trying to figure out if lvl 3 pally or lvl 7 monk is better. also tossing around going back to 11r/9m for improve evasion or taking 2 fvs/clr n going helf n taking pally dill but tough there because then i have to put pts into cha to get pally dilly might be a waste of stat pts.

Firstly, I'd like to apologize in advance if I seem patronizing or if I'm just rehashing things you already know. Since I'm not familiar with you or your toon, I'm going to try to keep my assumptions low, so please bear with me. That being said...

I'd suggest neither 3 pally nor 7 monk; 3 pally benefits are pretty weak. As noted earlier, you want 2 pally or 4 pally. While 7 monk is tempting for Wholeness of Body, I find that Cocoon makes it obsolete. If your goal is endgame, I'd stay away from 7 monk. I think 11/6/3 Ranger/Monk/Fvs or Cleric on a helf with pally dilly is your best bet; You could go 12 ranger, but really all that gets you is a couple minor spell benefits. 3 Cleric or FvS lets you pick up Divine Might and a couple other little goodies. I personally like FvS over cleric; More sp, more (Potential) uses of Divine Might and an extra +1 hit/damage from faith feats. Cleric does get "free" DM via turns, but depening on your playstyle there might not be enough turns. Both classes have their benefits though.


While you might think putting points in cha would be a waste, it's not really; With every cha mod, Divine Might is another +1 str, and +1 to saves with pally dilly, up to +5 (With max line). Assuming minimal cha investment, you can easily hit the 20 cha needed to cap out pally dilly (13+1 tome+6 item).

Let's play pretend. Assuming you want to pick up Combat Archery, pally dilly and have a decent 10k stars, it might look something like this:
13 str
16 dex (Enough for Combat Archery with +1 level and +4 tome)
14 con
8 int
16 wis
13 cha

While str seems low, you'll still be able to get it to a modest value:
13 base+6 level+1 exc+8 item+2 insight+5 primal+5 tome+2 rams+2 yugo+2 completionist-2 ocean=44
Add a gimpy +6 Divine Might and you should be able to hit 50 str easy. This isn't counting +9/10 str items, Alchemical/Tensor's, Titan's, +3 insightful, profane...there's plenty to go around.


On another note, looking at your epic feat selections...I'd suggest getting rid of Doubleshot and picking up either Perfect Two Weapon fighting or the thf variant if you have to choose from a primal feat. Otherwise, you could look at Spell Power:Positive or even Toughness. Reason being: Manyshot gives a -100% doubleshot chance for 70 seconds, starting at activation. 10k Stars does the same, but for 45 seconds. So depending on your rotation, you're going to be stuck with single-shot damage or melee (Might as well make use of those cleaves) for the downtime. Unless Turbine changes it, Doubleshot is pretty much ghostbaned for monkchers right now.

I'm assuming you took the sorc PL for the sp; 3 fvs should warrant dropping that in favor of something else. I'd suggest Combat Archery, which is currently WAI (+1[W], 2% dodge when ranged). I'd also suggest swapping Ruin for something; I find Ruin is weak without the spell power and metas to back it up. I'd highly suggest Empower Heal for the boost to Cocoon. Otherwise, Blinding Speed can be useful if you find yourself running solo or whatnot.

Anyhow, hopefully I've brought up something useful. I'll be glad to clarify if I've been vague on anything. Good luck with your build!