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    Default Fighter 8/ Ranger 6/ Rogue 6

    I was looking for a self-sufficient build, with traps skills, self heal, meele combat, and the use of ranged attacks when the mobs are not close or I am with low hp.

    The idea is use a H-elf, 8 Fighter for Kensei and feats, 6 Ranger for Bow and free feats (THF, 2 F enemy, etc..). The 6 lvl of rogue for Traps, UMD and sneak atackk.

    Stats 16 STR/ 14 DEX/ 14 CONS/ 14 INTEL/10 WIS/10 CHARM

    Dilettante: Barb

    DWS: core 1/ maybe some shots

    AA: conjure arrows/ elemental/ inferno.

    Kensei: W specialization: Kolpesh

    Assassin: Sneak attack training

    Can i have some advice?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doutrinador View Post
    I was looking for a self-sufficient build, with traps skills, self heal, meele combat, and the use of ranged attacks when the mobs are not close or I am with low hp.

    The idea is use a H-elf, 8 Fighter for Kensei and feats, 6 Ranger for Bow and free feats (THF, 2 F enemy, etc..). The 6 lvl of rogue for Traps, UMD and sneak atackk.

    Stats 16 STR/ 14 DEX/ 14 CONS/ 14 INTEL/10 WIS/10 CHARM

    Dilettante: Barb

    DWS: core 1/ maybe some shots

    AA: conjure arrows/ elemental/ inferno.

    Kensei: W specialization: Kolpesh


    Assassin: Sneak attack training

    Can i have some advice?

    Thanks
    Anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doutrinador View Post
    Anyone?
    I already TR, take the level 1 rogue, anyone can help?

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    Without a full build it's difficult to offer specific feedback.

    8 fighter is generally taken to use centered non-monk weapons, but you don't have any monk levels. You could still get +1 crit range though. 8 levels is a big investment for that, however, assuming you are planning to take tier 5 enhancements in kensai.

    If you're willing to use daggers, you can get +1 crit range and multiplier from tier 5 assassin's knife specialization. That only requires 5 levels for the same effect and you'd end up with the same crit profile that you'd get with khopesh and 8 fighter levels. Then you could go 15 ranger/5 rogue and get more benefit from ranger through better self healing and buffing. You could take empower heal which works with cocoon.

    Provide more detailed build info if you want more specific feedback. Full feats, enhancements, and ED choice will give people a better idea of what exactly you're trying to accomplish with the build.
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    You didn't post the rest of your build; there's not much to critique, apart from reminding you you'll need base DEX 17 for GTWF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CThruTheEgo View Post
    Without a full build it's difficult to offer specific feedback.

    8 fighter is generally taken to use centered non-monk weapons, but you don't have any monk levels. You could still get +1 crit range though. 8 levels is a big investment for that, however, assuming you are planning to take tier 5 enhancements in kensai.

    If you're willing to use daggers, you can get +1 crit range and multiplier from tier 5 assassin's knife specialization. That only requires 5 levels for the same effect and you'd end up with the same crit profile that you'd get with khopesh and 8 fighter levels. Then you could go 15 ranger/5 rogue and get more benefit from ranger through better self healing and buffing. You could take empower heal which works with cocoon.

    Provide more detailed build info if you want more specific feedback. Full feats, enhancements, and ED choice will give people a better idea of what exactly you're trying to accomplish with the build.

    Thanks for the Feedback.

    I already TR..and initiate the CHAR, its in LVL 2 now.

    My general ideal (i am new at game, and not pretend do do epic with this char) is to have a archer with good DPS (using manyshoot, DWS, sneak attack and elemental aroows). But i want to have some meele capacity too.

    The rogue lvls are for sneak attack, traps skills and UMD. I dont know how to use daggers, and did not see any good dagger in my first life. I was think in do sneak attack mostly at ranger (h elf tree + DWS), or in meele when some else take agroo.

    My enchants:

    1- DWS core 1 + core 2
    2- Tempest for + 1 when TWF and defense
    3- AA for elemental arrows (rank 5)
    4- kensei to + 4 critical with kolpesh.
    5- rogue assassin for + 3 sneak attack.
    6- H elf core 1 and 2, and dilettante barb -1 DR and + 10 HP.

    Feats: power attack, point black shot, kolpesh, wepon foccus: slashing, wepon specialization: slashing, power critical: ranged, GTWF (+2 tome dex).


    My build was: 16 str/ 14 dex/ 14 cons/ 14 intel/ wis 10/ char 10.

    But i am thinking to change to: ranger 11/rogue5//fighter 4.

    Sorry for my bad English ( i am from Brasil).

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    You didn't post the rest of your build; there's not much to critique, apart from reminding you you'll need base DEX 17 for GTWF.
    Thanks... i have a + 3 tome for DEX.

    PS: dont know how to post the build... but I explained more in the post above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doutrinador View Post
    My general ideal (i am new at game, and not pretend do do epic with this char) is to have a archer with good DPS (using manyshoot, DWS, sneak attack and elemental aroows). But i want to have some meele capacity too.
    It sounds like you're looking for an exploiter type build. You might want to take a look at EllisDee37's tempest trapmonkey for new players thread. That should have some good info for you. I don't have much experience with exploiters so I can't offer anything beyond that. Hope that helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CThruTheEgo View Post
    It sounds like you're looking for an exploiter type build. You might want to take a look at EllisDee37's tempest trapmonkey for new players thread. That should have some good info for you. I don't have much experience with exploiters so I can't offer anything beyond that. Hope that helps.
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doutrinador View Post
    3- AA for elemental arrows (rank 5)
    Is this for the ftr PL? If you're not going for Keen Edge (T5 Kensei), ftr 8 doesn't get you much, apart from an extra feat and T4 Weap Spec. And if self-heals are an important build goal, something with rgr 14 or 15 might be preferable. However, that's not compatible with getting a ftr PL, hence my question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Is this for the ftr PL? If you're not going for Keen Edge (T5 Kensei), ftr 8 doesn't get you much, apart from an extra feat and T4 Weap Spec. And if self-heals are an important build goal, something with rgr 14 or 15 might be preferable. However, that's not compatible with getting a ftr PL, hence my question.
    I changed my mind: Will do a 11 ranger/5 rogue/ 4 fighter. 4 Fighter for the 3 feats/ kensei (haste boost/ + 3 hit with kolpesh). I would like to be good with the bow and meele too.

    Thanks for the suggestions.

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    I prefer rgr 12 for the core enhs; in particular, +10% offhand from Tempest is worth more than rog 5 or ftr 4.
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