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    Community Member P1rat3cat's Avatar
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    Default Need some help with a build please

    Hi
    Have been thinking about a 32 point build, first lifer as i am changing servers, that could solo quite well (read do all traps and locks + dmg + avoidance ) to at least lvl 20. After that i might TR.

    Since the new enhancement system, and as i am back after over 1 year out of ddo, i feel a bit confused about everything.

    Please critique my build, point out the holes on it or better choices i could do to play mostly solo but in groups as well.

    I tried to keep it a dex bases build using short swords (using dex to dmg) enhancements, have good sneak attacks in groups or with deception (?) items, fighter lvls to help get grandmaster of forms.

    So here it is my try:

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    Level 20 Lawful Neutral Drow Male
    (3 Fighter \ 13 Monk \ 4 Rogue) 
    Hit Points: 213
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 13
    Reflex: 18
    Will: 16
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
    (28 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
    Strength             10                 10                   10
    Dexterity            16                 17                   21
    Constitution         12                 12                   12
    Intelligence         14                 14                   14
    Wisdom               16                 20                   22
    Charisma             10                 10                   10
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
    Balance               7                 12                   15
    Bluff                 0                  0                    0
    Concentration         1                  1                    1
    Diplomacy             0                  0                    0
    Disable Device        6                 20                   20
    Haggle                0                  0                    0
    Heal                  3                  6                    6
    Hide                  7                 11                   12
    Intimidate            0                  0                    0
    Jump                  4                  6                    9
    Listen                7                 12                   14
    Move Silently         7                 11                   12
    Open Lock             7                 17                   17
    Perform               n/a               n/a                   n/a
    Repair                2                  2                    2
    Search                6                 25                   27
    Spellcraft            2                  2                    2
    Spot                  7                 14                   16
    Swim                  0                  0                    0
    Tumble                n/a               n/a                   n/a
    Use Magic Device      4                 23                   23
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+4)
    Skill: Disable Device (+4)
    Skill: Hide (+4)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Listen (+4)
    Skill: Move Silently (+4)
    Skill: Open Lock (+4)
    Skill: Search (+4)
    Skill: Spot (+4)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Drow - Spell Resistance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Drow - Xen'drik Weapon Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Knife in the Darkness (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 2 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Listen (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Toxin Affinity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Toxin Affinity (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 3 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Listen (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Dagger in the Back (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 4 (Monk)
    Ability Raise: WIS
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 2)
    
    
    Level 5 (Monk)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
    Enhancement: Drow - Drow Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Drow - Xen'drik Weapon Training (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 6 (Monk)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Mobility
    Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 7 (Monk)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Damage Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 8 (Monk)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Subtlety (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 9 (Monk)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Spring Attack
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Toxin Affinity (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+3)
    Skill: Open Lock (+2)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+2)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Venomed Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sting of the Ninja (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 11 (Fighter)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Damage Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Shadow Veil (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 12 (Monk)
    Ability Raise: WIS
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 13 (Fighter)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Precision
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Damage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Damage (Rank 2)
    
    
    Level 14 (Monk)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Damage (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Killer (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Killer (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Killer (Rank 3)
    
    
    Level 15 (Fighter)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Drow - Spell Resistance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Stealthy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Faster Sneaking (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 16 (Monk)
    Ability Raise: WIS
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 17 (Monk)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Drow - Ambidexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Drow - Xen'drik Weapon Training (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 18 (Monk)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Grandmaster of Forms
    Enhancement: Drow - Drow Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Drow - Ambidexterity (Rank 2)
    
    
    Level 19 (Monk)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Drow - Ambidexterity (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Drow - Xen'drik Weapon Training (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 20 (Monk)
    Ability Raise: WIS
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Venomed Blades (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Damage Boost (Rank 3)

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    Is it that crappy? or am i trying to put too many eggs in the same basket?

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    Quote Originally Posted by P1rat3cat View Post
    Is it that crappy? or am i trying to put too many eggs in the same basket?
    Patience, grasshopper. Next time don't post your build on a major American holiday if you want prompt feedback.

    A few comments:
    • Stunning Fist is still handwraps-only, I think; Quivering Palm works w/weapons, but you don't get that until monk 15. And unfortunately, there's no way to get DEX-to-unarmed-dmg AFAIK.
    • Master of Forms is auto-granted at monk lvl 12, so no need to use a feat for it (builder's a bit bugged tho).
    • Diamond Soul doesn't stack w/drow SR, AFAIK, so it's pointless to take it. I'd either stop at monk 12 or push it to at least 15 for QP.
    • If you want DEX-to-dmg with short swords, you don't need Finesse; that already comes from being a centered Ninja.
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