Tempest sucks

[Teh_Troll]

Other than the low-hanging fruit this entire tree is weaksauce.

Tried out being mostly tempest for two weeks an a toon that was mostly AA then switched back to her normal "melee mutt" build. Dumping the Tempest stuff down just enough APs to get 90% off-hand and hast boost . . . the DPS loss for gaining back the slayer arrows is so little (EE Sobrien melee beat-down times went up be 2 seconds) that I cannot say a high investment in Tempest at all is worth it.

The upper teir stuff . . . all ****. I've never noticed having improved evasion or not . . . 1000 cuts sucks, etc . . . all the top end stuff is so bad.

I'm not sure what to do to fix it either.

[voodoogroves]

Set it on fire, feed the ashes to the wolves and set the wolves on fire.

After you feed them bard and paladin trees.

[Teh_Troll]

Set it on fire, feed the ashes to the wolves and set the wolves on fire.

After you feed them bard and paladin trees.

RANGER doesn't suck . . . you can slap together a mutt-build that's pretty strong with a little from each of the trees. I'm not sure that's a good justification for makeing the high-end of tempest bad.

[voodoogroves]

RANGER doesn't suck . . . you can slap together a mutt-build that's pretty strong with a little from each of the trees. I'm not sure that's a good justification for makeing the high-end of tempest bad.

And that makes ranger different than Bard and Pally

Spellsinger gets a nerf. Thankfully, everyone has their Eyld Edge already ... right?

[Qhualor]

yes. it needs to be juiced up with more ways to boost damage. theres not enough good damage boosting enhancements and too many different ways for survivability. I really wish we could have class enhancements. if I want to focus on 1 prestige, why do I need to pick enhancements and level through the other 2 to get what every Ranger type should have anyways? if I want the favored enemy line, I have to level through DWS. for more spell points, I have to get it from AA.

[toaftoaf]

ya rangers are only good for AA. or multiclass 6 ranger 6 artie and 8 what ever the hell you want

[Darkrok]

Other than the low-hanging fruit this entire tree is weaksauce.

Tried out being mostly tempest for two weeks an a toon that was mostly AA then switched back to her normal "melee mutt" build. Dumping the Tempest stuff down just enough APs to get 90% off-hand and hast boost . . . the DPS loss for gaining back the slayer arrows is so little (EE Sobrien melee beat-down times went up be 2 seconds) that I cannot say a high investment in Tempest at all is worth it.

The upper teir stuff . . . all ****. I've never noticed having improved evasion or not . . . 1000 cuts sucks, etc . . . all the top end stuff is so bad.

I'm not sure what to do to fix it either.

Can I have you talk to my son. His favorite toon is a Tempest with heavy AP investment in the tree, primarily for the long-CD short duration attacks. I can't talk him out of it either...he's smitten with it. He's also 9 years old which is about the only audience to which the upper tiers of Tempest looks attractive.