The Crimson Bolt - A selfhealing metal stick build

[Rull]

13 rogue / 4 paladin / 3 monk
Bladeforged

*Feats:
Power Attack
Cleave
Great Cleave
Improved Critical
Adept of Form
Master of Form
Quicken
Toughness (M)
Two-handed Fighting (M)
Improved Evasion (R)
Opportunist (R)
Overwhelming Critical (E)
Epic Toughness (E)
Blinding Speed (E27)


*Points: (36)
18 STR (to get overwhelming with a +5 tome)
6 DEX
18 CON
8 INT
6 WIS
16 CHA +6 lvlup (or if you like you can put the levelups in STR)


*Gear:
Sireth
Recon 136 slotted in sireth until a good recon item is released (recon 90 from ring of master artifice is good but not enough recon)
probably black dragon armor
black dragon helm also
torc to fuel reconstructs. if epic you don't need to slot archmagi.


*Destiny:
Fury of the wild
twist: Dance of Flowers (1)
twist: +6 Seeker (3)
twist: 15% fortbypass (3)

Alternatively, if you are not using sireth:
Dreadnought (for pulverizer)
twist: Dance of Flowers (1)
twist: Sense Weakness (4)
twist: Brace for Impact (1)


*Stance:
Wind stance if you don't have haste, earth stance if you do.


*Enhancements:
Racial (18)
Improved Fortification (1)
3x Mechanist (6)
3x Communion of Scribing (6)
1x Improved Power Attack (2)
Power of the Forge (1)
Weapon Attachment (1)
Communion of Handling (1)


Thief-Acrobat (33)
Staff control (1)
3x Thief Acrobatics (3)
Staff Training I (2)
Staff Training II (2)
Staff Training III (2)
Staff Training IV (2)
3x Haste Boost (6)
3x Quick Strike (6)
2x Subtelty (2)
1x Strength +1 (2)
3x No Mercy (3)
Staff Specialization (2)


Henshin Mystic (7)
Base (1)
Way of the Tortoise (2)
Staff Training I (2)
Staff Training II (2)


Knight of the Chalice (12)
Fiendslayer (1)
3x Extra turn (3)
Extra smite (1)
3x Divine Might (6)
Courage of Heaven (1)


Ninja Spy (7)
Base (1)
Sneak Attack Training (2)
2x Acrobatic (2)
Sneak Attack Training II (2)


Assassin (3)
Base (1)
Sneak Attack Training (2)

[Fennario]

Hard to take monk feats and enhancements with no monk levels. I'm guessing those 3 fighter levels should be monk.

[Rull]

Haha, of course yes

[hi_sa1nt]

Haha, of course yes

Why Bladeforge for this build? You don't give any reason in your OP saying besides self healing... which is a good reason, but the sole reason why you chose BF?

Interesting build though.

If you were to substitute the 4 levels of paly and put them somewhere else, what would they be?

[Rull]

Why Bladeforge for this build? You don't give any reason in your OP saying besides self healing... which is a good reason, but the sole reason why you chose BF?Interesting build though.If you were to substitute the 4 levels of paly and put them somewhere else, what would they be?

Well yes selfhealing. Plus Power of the Forge is as fine an ability as other races offer. And the weapon attachment +0.5W +5 seeker is decent damage as well.

But the whole point of this build is that it is probably the highest dps of all selfhealing builds, more than bards, druids, battleclerics, fvs, sorc- or wizard-fighter splits or most important artificers (juggernaut style) can dish out.
Of course this is a certain definition of selfhealing, i don't consider a 12second cocoon and/or jumping around with heal scrolls solid selfhealing, while 6 second reconstuct should be sufficient, (though not as good as druid or cleric).

So uhm, you could replace 4 paladin with 1 wizard, going 16/3/1 or 13/6/1.
Alternatively, you could take 4 fighter and sacrifice a twist to get an SP pool.
But I don't think either would be better than the CHA to saves and the CHA to strenght bonusses that paladin offers.

[Skavenaps]

Well yes selfhealing. Plus Power of the Forge is as fine an ability as other races offer. And the weapon attachment +0.5W +5 seeker is decent damage as well.But the whole point of this build is that it is probably the highest dps of all selfhealing builds, more than bards, druids, battleclerics, fvs, sorc- or wizard-fighter splits or most important artificers (juggernaut style) can dish out. Of course this is a certain definition of selfhealing, i don't consider a 12second cocoon and/or jumping around with heal scrolls solid selfhealing, while 6 second reconstuct should be sufficient, (though not as good as druid or cleric).So uhm, you could replace 4 paladin with 1 wizard, going 16/3/1 or 13/6/1.Alternatively, you could take 4 fighter and sacrifice a twist to get an SP pool.But I don't think either would be better than the CHA to saves and the CHA to strenght bonusses that paladin offers.

im building a BF monk12/5wiz/rogue3, No cha to saves but 25% incor and non scroll displacement helps a lot on survival. Less SA and worst saves than yours.

[Choopak]

Well yes selfhealing. Plus Power of the Forge is as fine an ability as other races offer. And the weapon attachment +0.5W +5 seeker is decent damage as well.

But the whole point of this build is that it is probably the highest dps of all selfhealing builds, more than bards, druids, battleclerics, fvs, sorc- or wizard-fighter splits or most important artificers (juggernaut style) can dish out.
Of course this is a certain definition of selfhealing, i don't consider a 12second cocoon and/or jumping around with heal scrolls solid selfhealing, while 6 second reconstuct should be sufficient, (though not as good as druid or cleric).

So uhm, you could replace 4 paladin with 1 wizard, going 16/3/1 or 13/6/1.
Alternatively, you could take 4 fighter and sacrifice a twist to get an SP pool.
But I don't think either would be better than the CHA to saves and the CHA to strenght bonusses that paladin offers.

I love the bladeforged! but not sure your build qualify as: the best DPS, a fighter/pally/wizard 12/6/2 would probably do more, have more HP, saves, smites and a full BaB, and bladesworn transformation for even more damage. Eldrith knight would add up more damage on cleave and some very nice defensive abilities on mage armor/ shield SLA. And a 12/6/2 monk would also work, and you can take enhancement in kensai to be centered with any weapons...

[keowyn]

*Points: (36, assuming +5 tomes)
16 STR +2 lvlup (+5 tome for overwhelming)
16 DEX (+5 tome for improved sneak attack)
18 CON
8 INT
6 WIS
16 CHA +4 lvlup

46 point build?

[Rull]

46 point build?

Ugh, I misread +2 STR -2 DEX -2 WIS for +2 STR +2 DEX +2 WIS. Now that I think about it that does seem pretty unrealistic

That makes improved sneak attack quite a stretch. I'll change that into epic toughness then.

*Points: (36)
18 STR +6 lvlup (or you can put the lvlups in CHA, both are good but this is easier to compare)
6 DEX
18 CON
8 INT
6 WIS
16 CHA

Alternatively, if I really do want improved sneak attack, i guess it would be:

*Points: (36)
16 STR +2 levelup (to get overwhelming with a +5 tome)
12 DEX +4 levelup (to get overwhelming with a +5 tome)
18 CON
8 INT
6 WIS
16 CHA

though i'm not sure:
-10 DEX
-3d6 sneak
versus
-6 STR
-50hp