Petition: Remove ML Requirements From All Gear

[Khalesh]

AFTER you have worn them at the correct level once and TR’d

Bear with me

On the eve of U20 and the dawn of the Epic TR Era I find myself pondering and planning what Epic past life bonuses I want for each of my stable of Top Tier Toons and I just realised that after many posts on many TR subjects the biggest elephant in the room has not been addressed.

Folks have been talking about the pain of grinding Karma for off destiny EDs, the sheer level of Experience actually needed to grind out 9 PLs in each Karmic Sphere and the underwhelming bonuses you actually get after it all.

But what about equipment considerations? When max level 25 came in there was a gradual move and replacement of equipment as you went up through the levels. Then max level 28 came and once again your gear set up changed yet again.

Now we have the opportunity to go back to lvl 20 and go through the experience of levelling from 20 to 28 multiple times.

I for one will find it a pain to remember what gear I wore at 20, then 23, then 25, 26 , 28 etc. A lot of the random lower 20’s gear I have discarded or moved to another toon as I have gathered better and better stuff.

Think of all the augment slot twinking you have carried out!!!

When you TR to 20, if you remain in a good destiny sphere your EDs will be fine but your equipment will be a mess!

Ok some slots and items are just convenience but I for one will find this a nightmare.

Can we get some sort of concession about using ML20-28 items at level 20 after an Epic TR if you have worn them already prior to your TR?

I know its way past getting this for U20 but a patch at some point?

It is going to be such a nightmare the first time I TR each toon and I am thinking many players will be in the same boat

[Uska]

This is a better idea than yours

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQJdX0JjGnA

[Ungood]

While I would love to have it so that everything in my TR vault became ML1, just because that would in the end of things, save me time and space when TRing, I don't think it will ever happen.

And if they are not going to do it for Heroic TR, they should not do it for any TR. imho.

[Silverleafeon]

A kobold worker has died...
A kobold worker has died...
A kobold worker has died...
A kobold worker has died...
A kobold worker has died...

[Silverleafeon]

Kobold has deja vu.
Kobold hates your Pinion.

[Silverleafeon]

Kobold remember Waterworks....

[Silverleafeon]

I suppose after awhile people might complain that +12 constitution bracer just is not as effective at level one as it should be...

[Silverleafeon]

Seriously though, no offense meant, I understand your feelings.

And welcome to my world....

[Stormraiser]

I'm sorry, but I strongly disagree.

The power after level 20 comes mostly from epic destinies and then gear. The feats, hit point and skill points are not as vital to a character. If you remove min levels, you would have nearly identical characters from level 20 to level 28. One of the perks of leveling up, is the ability to use stronger gear.

I'm completely baffled by what you mean, when you say you don't remember what you wore at level 20, or level 23, etc. Not to sound mean, or like a troll, but all of the equipment you have available to you has descriptions on it. Look at what is available to you to wear and pick a good fit. One of the interesting things about DDO, is the ability to customize what you wear, it is also the reason why even the top end game builds come with an equipment list. Most of the builds, even if similar are not wearing 100% of the same gear.

The fact that you sold some of the gear you used to wear is a moot point. After I finished using repeaters, I sold most of them, except for a few that I kept, if I want to go back to them, I would have to obtain them again, and I don't expect them to just reappear.

As an aside, when you do your many epic TRs, do you plan to play the same exact character each time? Making small changes results in a different inventory setup.

Regards,
Stormraiser.

[Silverleafeon]

Maybe now when some players post, "We need more bound to character space." the rest of players will quit typing thing in reply like "You can make an alt. You can throw stuff away. You don't need more room. You can always earn your stuff again."


Perhaps you should try their advice.
Just throw everything away each life and start over?

[Silverleafeon]

I'm sorry, but I strongly disagree...

+1 in case people miss my point of view

[Silverleafeon]

Epic Gianthold gear = the new greensteels?

[voodoogroves]

I would not be against less-granular gear ML breaks specifically for named, raid loot or bound items. ML 4/8/12/etc.

Removing them completely would be insane, esp. given the scale of bullhockey that comes on lootgen right now.

[AbyssalMage]

AFTER you have worn them at the correct level once and TR’d

Bear with me

On the eve of U20 and the dawn of the Epic TR Era I find myself pondering and planning what Epic past life bonuses I want for each of my stable of Top Tier Toons and I just realised that after many posts on many TR subjects the biggest elephant in the room has not been addressed.

Folks have been talking about the pain of grinding Karma for off destiny EDs, the sheer level of Experience actually needed to grind out 9 PLs in each Karmic Sphere and the underwhelming bonuses you actually get after it all.

But what about equipment considerations? When max level 25 came in there was a gradual move and replacement of equipment as you went up through the levels. Then max level 28 came and once again your gear set up changed yet again.

Now we have the opportunity to go back to lvl 20 and go through the experience of levelling from 20 to 28 multiple times.

I for one will find it a pain to remember what gear I wore at 20, then 23, then 25, 26 , 28 etc. A lot of the random lower 20’s gear I have discarded or moved to another toon as I have gathered better and better stuff.

Think of all the augment slot twinking you have carried out!!!

When you TR to 20, if you remain in a good destiny sphere your EDs will be fine but your equipment will be a mess!

Ok some slots and items are just convenience but I for one will find this a nightmare.

Can we get some sort of concession about using ML20-28 items at level 20 after an Epic TR if you have worn them already prior to your TR?

I know its way past getting this for U20 but a patch at some point?

It is going to be such a nightmare the first time I TR each toon and I am thinking many players will be in the same boat

And as you ETR multiple times you will whittle down your ETR cache until you have a working group of equipment just like players have done for normal TR. And thanks to Sagas being the new bottleneck for ETR you will have plenty of time to loot "EE Uber Item" a few times.