Solution to punishments for exploiters

[ranthrock]

Facts:

1) Most exploiters tend to be the people who know the game well (too well, in fact...)
2) Most devs seem to have no idea how the game gets played (last DDOcast had several devs talking about how they spend HOURS running coal chamber). No offense devs, this makes you bads (but we still love you).


Solution:
-Instead of not being allowed to play for two (four) weeks, exploiters should be forced to group with devs and show them how to play the game (the way that goods play the game---not the way fresh offa da boats korthies play).

Benefits:
- Exploiters get punished (no, stop, don't jump ther....DING!)
- Devs get lessons from top players on the servers and can make better decisions about how to make changes to the game we'd like, what kinds of things are challenging vs. boring vs. fun for us, and what kind of loot we'd be looking for.


-Purr


PS we do love you, devs, but seriously, 2 hour coal?

[toaftoaf]

maybe they are playing the game on a tandy. just like the ones they use for the servers .

or maybe they are playing with no mouse (that would slow us down)

maybe they have to walk down the ramps because they dont have a FF item

trying to think of reasons why it would take 2 hours..

[Uska]

uMM no cheating doesnt make you a top player it just makes you a CHEATER! AND SOMEONE WHO SHOULD BE BANNED BANNED BANNED!
and banned again when they make a new account under a new name.
a top player is someone who can do it well without cheating

[Missing_Minds]

Cheaters always have the option to report their cheating ways, but they don't for a reason. They need no special compensational use.

[lugoman]

I'm all for punishing exploiters, but forcing them to group with the devs is cruel and unusual punishment!

[Ivan_Milic]

This duping bug was so easy to do that anyone could have done it even on accident.
Some exploiters got perm banned, idk how turbine decided who gets perm and who gets temp ban.
IF turbine devs wanted to learn the game they would do so, but this is punishment for both the devs and players.

[voodoogroves]

This duping bug was so easy to do that anyone could have done it even on accident.
Some exploiters got perm banned, idk how turbine decided who gets perm and who gets temp ban.
IF turbine devs wanted to learn the game they would do so, but this is punishment for both the devs and players.

Most of the "real" exploiting/cheating isn't really an in-quest thing. I suspect the devs would be bored sitting in the bank watching party chat as people try manipulating bags, etc. Oh and then let's run to the Fatespinner next ...

Sure, using things that weren't intended to be used in-quest makes it easy - but there is little to learn there (except that cocoon in heroic is handy, energy burst is way too stupid good and it's funny when you see someone with a Shiradi or freaking Reign twisted in).

The devs would learn far more by just running with moderately-smart folks on a TR train.