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    Community Member BinyaminTsadik's Avatar
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    If you are looking at endgame builds

    A Halfling Wizard thrower is very nice for shiradi because of the spell power
    Instead of complaining that there are no healers, go roll one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by voodoogroves View Post
    It may add a ton of STR to damage and some crit stuff, but it doesn't help w/ damage adds or rate of fire - there probably isn't a ton of value in lots of [w] adders on a 1d3 ;-). The monks are getting super RoF; the monk20 like yours is (eventually) going to get bonus crit -and- vorpal, the arti-rogue dips are adding a ton of additional damage and the DWS are doing the big single strikes (500, etc.) that have big damage or other effects that are less [w] dependent.
    I was not talking about [W] adders but about a big flat bonus to damage from

    Fighter: Weapon Specialization, Greater Weapon Specialization, Power Critical

    and from Kensai: Strike with no Thought, Power Surge, Spiritual Bond, Weapon Group Specialization, Haste Boost, Critical Accuracy, Critical Damage, A Good Death (ranged), Deadly Shot, Keen Edge
    (Note that Keen Edge would not stack with Master thrower and as far as i have heard it does not work yet either)

    in addition to a ton of bonus feats from the fighter levels with which you might even be able to get the Overwhelming Critical feat with the right attribute distribution. You can still decide if you go for DEX to damage or if you take Brutal Throw.

    Note that you gain Haste Boost with extra action boosts as well as bonuses to Doubleshot which help with attack speed. Depending on your splashes you could also reach a BAB of 20 for full attack animation speed (which you might not with a rogue based build). And going a few levels of fighter does not prevent you from splashing ranger and arti or rogue - even monk - and getting all the nice bonuses from their enhancement trees and a rune arm as i said in my post.

    I know that a monk with shuriken is superior in many cases but i thought this whole thread was about NOT making a monk?
    Last edited by Firewall; 11-05-2013 at 09:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firewall View Post
    I know that a monk with shuriken is superior in many cases but i thought this whole thread was about NOT making a monk?
    heh ... I keep bouncing between this thread and yours. I don't WANT to make a monk - though there is a gravitational pull in my brain that direction.
    Ghallanda - now with fewer alts and more ghostbane

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrackedIce View Post
    I would like to point out that since slaying arrows and the other active abilities from AA tree work with throwing weapons, when halfling master thrower gets fixed one would be able to use the nightforged dart with a 13 - 20 X3 crit range and with slayers should be pretty brutal in heroics.
    There are a couple of problems with going AA on a thrower build. The first is that the imbues don't work with them; if you're just a thrower, what do you spend your APs on to unlock Slaying Arrow? The other is the AA special atks like Inferno & Slaying use SPs to fire; an AA archer will be getting temp SPs from Moonbow and Soul Magic to help power them, an AA thrower isn't so lucky.
    Quote Originally Posted by voodoogroves View Post
    I don't WANT to make a monk - though there is a gravitational pull in my brain that direction.
    I'm having the same problem with my melee builds; I keep wanting to make something other than Yet Another Earth Stance Kensei, but they're so ludicrously OP right now I can't think of anything better.
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