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    Default Why Change "Tokens" From Free to a End Reward Choice?

    I know that there are already threads discussing the Heart costs but none that address this specific point.

    I don't understand the point of taking something that was an automatic reward for running an Epic quest and making it an end reward choice that I have to give up another reward to get. What does Turbine hope to accomplish by this nerf?

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    This is a good point. I'd be very interested to hear the reasoning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL View Post
    What does Turbine hope to accomplish by this nerf?
    They hope to sell more xpacs and forgotten realms content by making the hearts tied to saga rewards. Really not that hard to understand. Just like the new level 28 augments being store only. Anything and everything they do from here on out will cost players money.

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    Another excellent point, I hadn't considered that...essentially makes the other saga rewards meaningless, as you'll feel pretty obligated to start banking up the TR Commendations...that's a pretty impressive speed of invalidating a newly implemented system. I think they're getting better at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Most_Shady View Post
    They hope to sell more xpacs and forgotten realms content by making the hearts tied to saga rewards. Really not that hard to understand. Just like the new level 28 augments being store only. Anything and everything they do from here on out will cost players money.
    That doesn't really address my point that they used to be free. Why not give them for free upon completing a Saga?

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    I agree with the OPs concern that having to run Sagas to get components to make hearts is effectively another kind of nerf, when you have to give up other rewards to receive them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL View Post
    That doesn't really address my point that they used to be free. Why not give them for free upon completing a Saga?
    Well I guess your point is not exactly obvious then.

    I am sure it has something to do with coding. We don't get anything automatic from end rewards. Would break every end reward if they tried to code it like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Most_Shady View Post
    Well I guess your point is not exactly obvious then.

    I am sure it has something to do with coding. We don't get anything automatic from end rewards. Would break every end reward if they tried to code it like that.
    Title: "Why Change "Tokens" From Free to a End Reward Choice?"

    And as regards implementation, there are multiple ways you could get the reward. It could be mailed to you (used in multiple MMOs). Or you could go to another NPC to pick up your Tokens (Comms) ala Patron rewards (Saga Patron). I'm sure others could think of more options.

    For that matter they could be virtual like Reputation so we didn't have to carry them around...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL View Post
    Title: "Why Change "Tokens" From Free to a End Reward Choice?"

    And as regards implementation, there are multiple ways you could get the reward. It could be mailed to you (used in multiple MMOs). Or you could go to another NPC to pick up your Tokens (Comms) ala Patron rewards (Saga Patron). I'm sure others could think of more options.

    For that matter they could be virtual like Reputation so we didn't have to carry them around...
    And that just reads to me why did they change it. Not tell me a specific reason why the make it saga reward like I guess is the point you trying to make. Beats me what you trying to accomplish with this thread.

    I guess you just want to hear want you want to hear. Have at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rimble View Post
    that's a pretty impressive speed of invalidating a newly implemented system. I think they're getting better at it.
    Lol.. exactly.

    Looks like they are well on their way to invalidating the not-even-implemented-yet TR system to boot!
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