Occupy Stormreach grows!

[Ausdoerrt]

Claiming that you spent 3300$ a year on this product, then raging that it's gonna take 15$ to TR is absurd.

No it's not. I may go to a posh restaurant if I want, but I'd spit in the waiter's face if he decided to charge me for using their silverware.

Maybe people should be complaining about the price of True Hearts....

Also, they could totally be using this time to farm tokens NOW, and turning them in for true hearts.

The protest is stupid, and counterproductive.

You're missing the big picture. The problem is just the final straw, and it's the overall attitude and ruthless monetization that riles people up. Why would anyone farm anything in a game they would likely quit if nothing changes?

[Chauncey1]

I personally would lose no sleep over those 100 people being gone forever.

I would bet that fully half of them are either minimally invested, or multibox accounts.

50 troublemakers gone = better community.

Yeah...wow.
Oooookaaaaaay...
You just keep on believing that, Sunshine.

[MaxxieDemon]

Maybe people should be complaining about the price of True Hearts....

Also, they could totally be using this time to farm tokens NOW, and turning them in for true hearts.

The protest is stupid, and counterproductive.

Speaking about stupid protest and counterproductive... you know, you keep saying that we are small fries and will amount to nothing... because we are clearly terrible dupers and previous banned members.

What are YOU doing here? If you don't enjoy this thread, you can leave us to our misery and then when hell drops on us, you wouldn't even notice!

Or are you actually afraid that we are going to do something terrible to Turbine? In that case, we are clearly not just 100 players that are about to be culled off in your head...

Hmmmmm...

[uncleblue]

It also was a bunch of paid, high educated professionals working on it, who brought us the financial crisis. Think about this.

In fact realists are the willing footsoldiers, they never dare to have a system-critical opinion, because it's the actual system that made them realists-regarding-how-the-system-works. Doubting the system or any aspects of it leads to uncertainness, which a realist barely can stand. Think about this too.

1. Circular logic is circular.

2. This is not an economy, nor a democracy.

3. I am a U.S. Army Vet. 82nd Airborne, C. Co. 1/504th PIR. I fought for the right to voice my opinion on things that matter.

4. This doesn't matter.

[Havok.cry]

You hit the nail on the head. XP pots and Otto's Boxes. WAYS TO BYPASS HAVING TO PLAY CONTENT. Shortcuts. Now they are protesting having their shortcut paved over by a highway.

Claiming that you spent 3300$ a year on this product, then raging that it's gonna take 15$ to TR is absurd.

Someone telling others how they should spend their money is absurd.

[AtomicMew]

You hit the nail on the head. XP pots and Otto's Boxes. WAYS TO BYPASS HAVING TO PLAY CONTENT. Shortcuts. Now they are protesting having their shortcut paved over by a highway.

Claiming that you spent 3300$ a year on this product, then raging that it's gonna take 15$ to TR is absurd.

It's not absurd, it's just you being you and not being able to understand anyone else's opinion but your own.

[Ausdoerrt]

4. This doesn't matter.

Then why are you still voicing your opinion?

[uncleblue]

You are assuming the only reason people TR is to get completionist. That is wrong. I know one guy in game on his 32 life, all 32 of which were the same class. He does not have comletionist. I know many like him. I am one of them. I couldn't care about completionist, I just want to go back to level 1 and play the quests I like again. Why are you so against this?

I used to live across the street from this guy with a purple and yellow house. It was SO ugly.

People do weird stuff sometimes, because they are weird people.

If you are trying to claim this is normal....

[Havok.cry]

I used to live across the street from this guy with a purple and yellow house. It was SO ugly.

People do weird stuff sometimes, because they are weird people.

If you are trying to claim this is normal....

Being the only person on the entire forums arguing your side makes you the guy in the purple and yellow house.

[blackdae]

You are going to complete Sagas ANYWAY, because you are going to want to farm the rewards.

What rewards? Saga rewards? You won't be able to get other rewards than the commendations..

You would be wrong. I work for a living. Completionists LIVE in DDO.

This is not true.. I started my "long term completionist project" kinda 2 years ago and I'm only at 7th life.. Not really a "DDO life"..

Oh and nobody is FORCING you to do anything, because TR IS NOT REQUIRED FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN EGO.

Surely I don't do it for ego.. I like DDO and even if I hoped to like NWO (to get rid from this "Stokholm Syndrome") I'm still here.. with nothing to do but TR my toon.. Because I'm still in love with this messy game.. I bought both the expansion and I managed to play 2 Wheelon quests and explore both the areas alone 'cause nobody runs them.. I like to play through all content, but if I have to play for months only some chains over and over and over.. well.. no thanks..
If I take 2-4 months to TR a toon and 5-6 months to get a Heart, I'm sure I'll go back to read books instead of playing DDO O_o

I really thinks this change will destroy the game for good, at least if it stay like this.. 17 comms for an entire saga? No way I'm gonna do it..

EDIT:

I would bet that fully half of them are either minimally invested, or multibox accounts.

I've been VIP for a 1 1/2 year when I started play, then I bought almost everything (but Restless and Cannith challenges).. I also bought my first Heart 'cause me and my friends (that left all between MotU and U19) were scared about Epics

You hit the nail on the head. XP pots and Otto's Boxes. WAYS TO BYPASS HAVING TO PLAY CONTENT. Shortcuts. Now they are protesting having their shortcut paved over by a highway.

Never bought an XP pot or Box..

[Lanhelin]

3. I am a U.S. Army Vet. 82nd Airborne, C. Co. 1/504th PIR. I fought for the right to voice my opinion on things that matter.

A footsoldier in reality. Wow, didn't thought about getting that close

I guess you'd be the first one to break up the "riots" on Wayfinder? (Please say yes, gnihihi)

[uncleblue]

While you speak some truth right there as I agree with a couple of points, when it comes to heroic TR it's still not a change that has to be made. Why make something that exist simply harder to get or even out of reach as a goal to be set to others.

Also while I don't play much atm, when I do it's a constant TRing train and I didn't mind to buy a couple hearts when I spent all the ones I had from epic tokens or I didn't wanna farm that one life. Knowing that i'd HAVE TO pay for every single TRs (that's 3-4 a month) would be a discouraging factor to even consider re-engaging myself in the game once I can spare the time to do so because I don't wanna run epics till my eyes bleed. I've done it for months, I didn't like it, I now know I don't like it... overall it's just no fun at all for me.

You can divide the number of hearts by 2 as I'd get at the very least 1/2 of it from favor (maybe not actually). But then again, will I use a 30+% pots at that one crucial moment I know I can gather crazy exp by chaining quest? Most likely.

I will not comment on anything beside the mechanic that I feel is endangered since... yeah. I guess i'm the one who derailed, i'm totally blind to that occupy thingy. My head won't resolve to take it seriously and I hope it's just a mirage hehe. Nonetheless, the message behind needs to be heard till a confirmation of change has been made.

The why is simple: MONEY.

The game is bleeding to death.

I just spent 20$ more on TP, and will spend more again soon.

I support what I like.

[susiedupfer]

Uhm, guys...this is the weekend. How many producers and devs do you think are going to witness the protest on Wayfinder? I don't like the changes any more than you do, but if I were going to do something like a protest, I would start about Monday.

[RedOrm]

Please?

Greetz,
Red Orm

[Postumus]

Being the only person on the entire forums arguing your side makes you the guy in the purple and yellow house.

He's a Laker's fan?

[MaxxieDemon]

Please?

Greetz,
Red Orm

I don't think he is a troll sadly.

But...

HE IS SO CUTE AND ADORABLE. CAN WE NOT KEEP HIM FOR THIS THREAD'S POPULARITY? D:

[Qhualor]

I personally would lose no sleep over those 100 people being gone forever.

I would bet that fully half of them are either minimally invested, or multibox accounts.

50 troublemakers gone = better community.

how much money do I need to spend to be taken seriously when I say I probably will quit because of this change. if I quit and some of my other friends because of this change, or consider it as a last straw, how many friends of friends decide to quit because their friends aren't playing anymore? when the community is still a bit riled up because of the recent exploit, no end game, ED grind and boring random loot and than to say its going to take 150 something quests in sagas to get a BTC heart of wood or spend $15 to top it all off theres going to be a big chain reaction. the community has been riled up a lot lately with no time to really cool down. I cant pull facts out of my arse like you can but I bet this change is causing an earthquake for Turbine. its quite apparent with forums lit up talking mostly about this change and all kinds of talk in game.

[Ungood]

I don't consider this a protest, I consider this a showing of solidarity.

Which, is something Turbine really should take into consideration, that a bunch of "gamers" just rallied to show they are getting fed up. If this is not a wake up call to Turbine that they need to revise their tactics and direction of this game overall nothing ever will be.

Logging in to "Not play", never thought I would see the day, or be a part of it, yet, here I am.

[Chauncey1]

I don't consider this a protest, I consider this a showing of solidarity.

Which, is something Turbine really should take into consideration, that a bunch of "gamers" just rallied to show they are getting fed up. If this is not a wake up call to Turbine that they need to revise their tactics and direction of this game overall nothing ever will be.

Logging in to "Not play", never thought I would see the day, or be a part of it, yet, here I am.

I am in accord with your statement.

[Postumus]

Oh and nobody is FORCING you to do anything, because TR IS NOT REQUIRED FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN EGO.

Well some of us like to TR because we find it FUN. Eliminating a source of fun is never, well, fun.