Occupy Stormreach grows!

**HernandoCortez** · 10-22-2013, 01:33 AM

I will help you guys protest if they hide this thread too.

**Lanhelin** · 10-22-2013, 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by HernandoCortez

I will help you guys protest if they hide this thread too.

You're welcome. But this won't happen I guess. If they really wanted to hide this thread, they'd already done it yesterday. At this point I want to thank the invisible moderators for their polishing this thread, deleting the most

ridiculous

Troll-posts tirelessly! Thank you very much!

**F2PPremiumLeech** · 10-22-2013, 02:17 AM

Is there ANY Saga that can be completed by F2P guys? I cant think of any. Before they were able to at least grind the web of chaos-chain for tokens.

**Antheal** · 10-22-2013, 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by F2PPremiumLeech

Is there ANY Saga that can be completed by F2P guys? I cant think of any. Before they were able to at least grind the web of chaos-chain for tokens.

Nope. They've locked it behind a great big wall of pay-to-win.

**Scope333** · 10-22-2013, 03:08 AM

Originally Posted by F2PPremiumLeech

Is there ANY Saga that can be completed by F2P guys? I cant think of any. Before they were able to at least grind the web of chaos-chain for tokens.

Oh my God!!! The people who don't pay for the game are unhappy now too. Meet me in the Twelve for a sit in!

**Ausdoerrt** · 10-22-2013, 03:19 AM

A VERY disappointing response from Turbine. None of the players' concerns are addressed. The system is going live, albeit with some (unspecified - it'll be ridiculous even if they halve it) changes in the comm numbers. Still BtC. Still no new Sagas for a while. Tokens are still thrown out of the window in the long run.

I will do everything to see this protest going until Turbine is forced to abandon their usual strategy.

**Dandonk** · 10-22-2013, 03:23 AM

I'm back in on the bridge. I do not feel the post addresses the concerns all that well, especially noting the number of qualifiers in the post and the temporary (and undisclosed period for this) nature of the tokens staying in.

Let's keep this going, people! Let's get a real response to the core issues!

**Ausdoerrt** · 10-22-2013, 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by Dandonk

I'm back in on the bridge. I do not feel the post addresses the concerns all that well, especially noting the number of qualifiers in the post and the temporary (and undisclosed period for this) nature of the tokens staying in.

Let's keep this going, people! Let's get a real response to the core issues!

Indeed, I will join as soon as I'm back from work (might be another 12 hours, unfortunately).

**F2PPremiumLeech** · 10-22-2013, 04:15 AM

Originally Posted by Scope333

Oh my God!!! The people who don't pay for the game are unhappy now too. Meet me in the Twelve for a sit in!

It was F2P crowd that saved the game few years back. You see, they get a taste of what they like and they end up buying things. Like I did. First I got STK, Catacombs and Delera. Then I got VoN and Vale. etc. The point is however that in order to run sagas they need a specific set of packs/expansions, which they might have not thought of before. So F2P's who have hit 20 starts looking into TR business and realizes that the packs they've already bought cannot give them what they need to TR and there is no F2P content either to give it.

Now they cannot TR and get replay value of any low level packs they've bought, especially if there are no epic versions of them. They are stuck. They feel they got screwed. Nowhere was notification that they should get these specific packs in order to enjoy end-game. And if they cannot TR they don't bother to buy other races /classes to experiment on their next life.

**jonqrandom** · 10-22-2013, 04:56 AM

Originally Posted by Ytteri

I've gotta disagree with this, they're making heroic hearts stay available at the twelve, so what further problems are there? ...
So, I'm out. To you guys staying I wish you luck, but honestly I no longer know why you're still doing it.

the problems are: there is nothing saying that those tokens will continue to drop, only that ones you already have can still be bartered for hearts. there is a statement in there that tokens will be "deprecated" (removed eventually). there is nothing saying that commendations of valor will drop outside of GH in eberron. there is nothing saying that commendations of valor will become BtA instead of BtC.

since these problems still stand, i'm still on the bridge.

**kazeikan** · 10-22-2013, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by F2PPremiumLeech

It was F2P crowd that saved the game few years back. You see, they get a taste of what they like and they end up buying things. Like I did. First I got STK, Catacombs and Delera. Then I got VoN and Vale. etc. The point is however that in order to run sagas they need a specific set of packs/expansions, which they might have not thought of before. So F2P's who have hit 20 starts looking into TR business and realizes that the packs they've already bought cannot give them what they need to TR and there is no F2P content either to give it.

Now they cannot TR and get replay value of any low level packs they've bought, especially if there are no epic versions of them. They are stuck. They feel they got screwed. Nowhere was notification that they should get these specific packs in order to enjoy end-game. And if they cannot TR they don't bother to buy other races /classes to experiment on their next life.

I'm neutral on this topic. I did not and will not participate in this protest. I am VIP on main account, not like it matters.

However, Scope33 you got to make your trolling less obvious to be effective. Come on, October join date and 3 posts.

On the offchance it's not you it's probably Mr. Roboto or UncleBlue. Could quite possibly be all of you.

I won't tell you to be more like Teh Troll because he is not a troll. All he does is post hjeal me on every other post. At this point he probably thinks its an euphemism for sex.

Anyways truck on at least you're better than Teh Troll.

**somecallmetim** · 10-22-2013, 05:18 AM

Best way to hit a company like this is in the wallet. Don't like what they are doing, don't spend any money on their products, pure and simple.

Encourage others to do the same.

This may of already been said, if so, it needs to be said again, and again, and again.

**jonqrandom** · 10-22-2013, 06:21 AM

please go /sign this.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/428611-Make-Commendations-of-Valor-drop-in-ALL-epics-by-u20-and-make-them-BtA?p=5142492#post5142492

**Silken-Akira** · 10-22-2013, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by F2PPremiumLeech

It was F2P crowd that saved the game few years back. You see, they get a taste of what they like and they end up buying things. Like I did. First I got STK, Catacombs and Delera. Then I got VoN and Vale. etc. The point is however that in order to run sagas they need a specific set of packs/expansions, which they might have not thought of before. So F2P's who have hit 20 starts looking into TR business and realizes that the packs they've already bought cannot give them what they need to TR and there is no F2P content either to give it.

Now they cannot TR and get replay value of any low level packs they've bought, especially if there are no epic versions of them. They are stuck. They feel they got screwed. Nowhere was notification that they should get these specific packs in order to enjoy end-game. And if they cannot TR they don't bother to buy other races /classes to experiment on their next life.

Reading this specific wording. (although the this is worded by others before) made me decide to ask Turbine for one extra request....

PLEASE STOP PROFILING YOURSELF AS F2P!! YOU ARE ALREADY LESS AND LESS AND IF YOU WILL PROCEED WITH U20 (altered or not) YOU JUST CAN4T SAY YOU ARE ANYMORE!!!

On the bright side for Turbine if you act on this wisely and listen to your community, cancel the current planned U20, admit your are wrong about the path you tried to follow and work openly on the new U20. Then due to fact that this is so unseen throughout this genre it would be applauded throughout the whole MMORPG community. Stubbornly try to do your own liking and try mask it through doing it in bits and pieces and not telling us the whole story and just implement it, and lots of us will go.
(I am generally not a doom sayer and think it is mostly overrated but with this I have to agree and will support the players behind this complaint)

**Lanhelin** · 10-22-2013, 06:32 AM

The occupy sit-in now lasts 78+ hours. I didn't take actual screenies, so please feel free to post some of them. Instead I collected all posts in this thread with uploaded screenshots (though no quotation posts). I'll try to keep this post up to date, as well as the media link list one.

Occupy Bridge of Resistance Sit-in Screenshots:

Screenshots from other sources:

http://hausfeuerfuchs.shivtr.com/gal...tegories/37525

Join us on Wayfinder, Marketplace #1, #2 or #3!

**nibel** · 10-22-2013, 06:56 AM

Hearts are returning to the Lahar. To me, the protest attained its primary goal, and I'm satisfied. I'll log off from Wayfinder and go back to the game. I'm aware Glin basically said they are intending to keep it there "for now". When they announce the retirement on the future, I'll weight based on future data if it is enough for me to leave again.

I'm still discussing and talking in the forums about the commendation thing, and still believe it should be changed. But it is no longer a thing that would make me drop the game.

Thanks everyone for the amazing support all this time. And good luck for the ones staying on the bridge.

**donblas** · 10-22-2013, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by Memnir

Another 120 minutes of Trivia Amazement! These are just too much fun.

Some familiar faces tonight - as well as many, many new players!

Tonight's final score card was as follows:
Doneandout 1, Ayngel 3, Stridsvagn 11, Turoneleeve 1, Moonunit 8, War 4 + Eleventy, Vivala 2, Jibbrael 2, Terdbind 2, Pointless 2.000001

.

Thanks for tons of fun Memnir. I hope the sexual assault by multiple dire bears hasn't scarred you for life.

I think Pointless needs a name change now!

**Ausdoerrt** · 10-22-2013, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by nibel

Hearts are returning to the Lahar. To me, the protest attained its primary goal, and I'm satisfied. I'll log off from Wayfinder and go back to the game. I'm aware Glin basically said they are intending to keep it there "for now". When they announce the retirement on the future, I'll weight based on future data if it is enough for me to leave again.

I'm still discussing and talking in the forums about the commendation thing, and still believe it should be changed. But it is no longer a thing that would make me drop the game.

Thanks everyone for the amazing support all this time. And good luck for the ones staying on the bridge.

Judging by the response, they'll be gone the second we're not looking. It'll be impossible to change anything at that time. It's important to negotiate all the details now, before the changes are live. This is nothing more than a trick to fool the disappointed players, one they've used consistently in the past.

Except now there's a unique chance to overcome it. That's why I'd urge everyone who still opposes the core of the changes to stay on the bridge and remain active in the discussion.

**darthhento** · 10-22-2013, 07:15 AM

Not moving off the bridge until:

They're BTA.

Drop in ALL epic quests.

We can trade Tokens for Comms.

Reduce the ammount for True Heroic Hearts of Wood.

**RedOrm** · 10-22-2013, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by darthhento

Not moving off the bridge until:

They're BTA.

Drop in ALL epic quests.

We can trade Tokens for Comms.

Reduce the ammount for True Heroic Hearts of Wood.

This. The response they gave so far is mostly page filler and empty air, they'll need to do a LOT better.

Greetz,
Red Orm

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