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    Thinking about coming up with some Trivia Questions to shout out to the Occupiers tomorrow, Sunday the 20th. If I can, I'll try to brew up some questions that cover pop-culture, gaming, movies/TV stuff, D&D + DDO trivia - etc.



    I work at 2:30pm PST, so this would be kinda on the early-side. I'm thinking around noon PST (3pm EST).


    I have no prizes to give out - but I think it'd be fun none the less. Bragging rights are the best prize, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scope333 View Post
    All will be back including you. Every update the same clowns threaten to leave. Every next update those same clowns are posting again about leaving. Four years from now you will be at 20,000 posts threatening to leave because Turbine dares to try and make money with update 32.
    Actually if you were even slightly informed you would know that the game has lost nearly 50% of player login activity it had in summer 2012, in the past year.

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    Just my thoughts on this whole switch to coms.
    First I remember when DDO first switched over to F2P and we used to have to use Tokens to advance in level. Which this is very similar to this age of the game.
    The outcome was new players came had a taste and left. Veterans started doing full time TP runs and in turn passed that knowledge onto the new player base as a normal.
    My current history in this game is I never made it passed lvl 14 years back because of the cap then and we didn't have hirelings. I came back a few months ago because the sole reason that TR interested me.
    I invested into outright purchasing the Legendary Shadowdell xp and I also picked up Catacombs and MoTU all basically the same time. Now my character is in the epic lvls and has the tokens to do my first TR ever.
    But then Epic TR gets announced ok so this is even better for me. I'll wait and kill 2 birds with 1 stone only thing is now.
    But the main issue now is I can no longer play a varity of characters to achieve the goals to advance my main character within normal game time. I would expect and respect a BTC Epic TR type of token acquiring it should be somewhat of a chore but the current move is more like a carrot on a stick. No casual player will ever achieve this and with that why even waste the time trying at all.
    The outcome for me is only 1 option TP farming it will provide me any hearts on whatever character and it will be faster than farming sagas on the same character over and over again. How does this effect the game.
    Once the ball starts rolling people won't buy TP when there are more daily and constant groups out there farming. Especially with Iconics now you even gave an even faster way and more choices to choose when farming for quick TP..

    My advice and opinion leave Herioc TR alone with Epic Tokens. I wouldn't even mind having Iconic TR being gained with tokens. Epic TR ok yea you can tie them into Sagas and I can live with that but maybe something like the range of a max of needing to complete and choose 10 Epic saga completions on Hard max 15. Anything more than this you just force the player base to no longer play the content as intended and just Zerg through it. Doing your latest quests sagas 15 times in a row is going to get highly boring and only cause people to complain more about not having content etc... Not to mention they are also stuck being tied to only advancing that character which takes out the concept of having alts to fill character slots that a group needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shammie View Post
    Just my thoughts on this whole switch to coms.
    First I remember when DDO first switched over to F2P and we used to have to use Tokens to advance in level. Which this is very similar to this age of the game.
    The outcome was new players came had a taste and left. Veterans started doing full time TP runs and in turn passed that knowledge onto the new player base as a normal.
    My current history in this game is I never made it passed lvl 14 years back because of the cap then and we didn't have hirelings. I came back a few months ago because the sole reason that TR interested me.
    I invested into outright purchasing the Legendary Shadowdell xp and I also picked up Catacombs and MoTU all basically the same time. Now my character is in the epic lvls and has the tokens to do my first TR ever.
    But then Epic TR gets announced ok so this is even better for me. I'll wait and kill 2 birds with 1 stone only thing is now.
    But the main issue now is I can no longer play a varity of characters to achieve the goals to advance my main character within normal game time. I would expect and respect a BTC Epic TR type of token acquiring it should be somewhat of a chore but the current move is more like a carrot on a stick. No casual player will ever achieve this and with that why even waste the time trying at all.
    The outcome for me is only 1 option TP farming it will provide me any hearts on whatever character and it will be faster than farming sagas on the same character over and over again. How does this effect the game.
    Once the ball starts rolling people won't buy TP when there are more daily and constant groups out there farming. Especially with Iconics now you even gave an even faster way and more choices to choose when farming for quick TP..

    My advice and opinion leave Herioc TR alone with Epic Tokens. I wouldn't even mind having Iconic TR being gained with tokens. Epic TR ok yea you can tie them into Sagas and I can live with that but maybe something like the range of a max of needing to complete and choose 10 Epic saga completions on Hard max 15. Anything more than this you just force the player base to no longer play the content as intended and just Zerg through it. Doing your latest quests sagas 15 times in a row is going to get highly boring and only cause people to complain more about not having content etc... Not to mention they are also stuck being tied to only advancing that character which takes out the concept of having alts to fill character slots that a group needs.
    Nicely said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrRoboto View Post
    Yes change the subject when you have no evidence. Pls start pulling numbers out of your ass.
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    30 hours now. Pretty impressive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanhelin View Post
    30 hours now. Pretty impressive!

    Need to keep this up into Monday in Boston.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrRoboto View Post
    Yes change the subject when you have no evidence. Pls start pulling numbers out of your ass.
    http://ddoracle.com/Traffic.html Click on "Menace of the Underdark-one year later". Peaks of in excess of 30k logins down to present peaks of circa 17k logins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tscheuss View Post
    T'es démode,
    et t'es pas vraiment anonyme.
    Comme si on pouvait être anonyme sur Internet.
    Encore une légende urbaine, on est tellement pisté, suivit, traqué que l'anonymat n'existe que dans la tête de ceux qui y croient.

    Back on topic, Don't feed the two wannabe trolls we have on the thread.
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    You guys heard about Occupation Wall Street? It didn't work so well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tscheuss View Post
    Need to keep this up into Monday in Boston.
    We've already done something unprecedented.

    About 150 players have said "no" in this way, going by U20KM membership and by Wayfinder natives not in said guild who started this struggle. (Kudos to Haus Feuerfuchs and others for getting the ball rolling!) We may not all be on the bridge at once, but they have spoken up nonetheless.

    We could have started desperately farming to get our TRs in before crunch time, hoping we could manage to scrape up the resources to stock up ahead of the changes. We could have ignored what's coming entirely and went on our way doing whatever we were already doing. We could have resigned ourselves to a more tedious grind.

    Instead, we have been staying in one spot, pointedly not playing, protesting these changes in the best way we know, having fun along the way and forging new bonds. And we can keep it going another 30 hours if we have to.

    We have been heard, but we're not done talking until action follows.

    Settle in, guys and girls. The long haul awaits. I believe we will make it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slarden View Post
    You guys heard about Occupation Wall Street? It didn't work so well.
    It worked quite well in sending the message that needed to be sent. Yeah, people got arrested and such, but that happens in many protests which start off peaceful in nature.
    Quote Originally Posted by Teh_Troll View Post
    We are no more d000m'd then we were a week ago. Note - This was posted in 10/2013 (when concurrency was ~4x what it is today)

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    Quote Originally Posted by slarden View Post
    You guys heard about Occupation Wall Street? It didn't work so well.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQf-zYn5TJE&t=0m19s

    Actually this is the only thing we can manage: that the Devs hear about it and rethink their decisions. If this happens, the bridge protest was a success. And it already is a success regarding playerbase solidarity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scope333 View Post
    Ironic statement since I'm willing to bet you have spent more (time and money) on this game than I have.
    I bet I have spent a ton more time and real dollars on this game then you and I bet if they played their cards right, they could get me to spend a ton more, so losing me to gain you is bad business move by Turbine. Just saying.

    And since I am on the bridge, and you're not, well, just goes to show where their real dollars are sitting right now.. LOL.
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    ok, does no-one know how to Ignore someone on the forums?

    its easy: click his name, click view profile, click add ignore, click yes, DONE


    i say we all just do ^THAT and get on with our lives
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    Back in on Protesting. Awesome to see so many people there! If nothing else, this event has really made me appreciate just how great a community we have. Keep up the good work everyone
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    I sat there for a while yesterday. To explain my take on the subject:

    I've been here since the beginning. I own everything there is to purchase. I took about one month off one time, when they stole the Lucky Hat graphic, otherwise I play pretty much every day for almost 8 years now. I play one character who just reached cap on his "final" life, and I was looking forward to another multi-year journey of epic TRs.

    The reason I'm upset is because the in-game earned hearts are essentially as useful as the Shroud collectibles. While going from 20 - 28 this life I did all of the sagas once each. The current values mean doing something like 1k sagas per epic life. Since I'm all done with heroic TRs, and epic TRing being effectively out of reach, I am facing the possibility of having to find a new game for the first time in years. I don't mind spending money on the game, but I'm not going to buy all content AND a heart every month or so. All I'm looking for is a reasonable way of earning epic hearts, and I'll stick around. But with no endgame and no way to reasonably epic TR, I'll be off to something else.
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    All done with Completionist (again) and Epic Completionist. First character to 30 on Sarlona* (before the rollback).

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyvy3369 View Post
    I don't mind spending money on the game, but I'm not going to buy all content AND a heart every month or so. All I'm looking for is a reasonable way of earning epic hearts, and I'll stick around. But with no endgame and no way to reasonably epic TR, I'll be off to something else.
    I think I will face a similar decision. I have 6 lives left on my completionist wannabe and at least 6 HTRs planned on my other toons. I can afford to buy store hearts, but it would double the cost of the game for me. With other problems ingame, I just don't have the desire to pay more. My son & I are vips, but he's been playing other games alot more lately and ignoring DDO. I hope they don't make this change. I know several peeps that can't afford the proposed TR train.
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    Nice, headed back to the protest myself after a bit of rest and work.

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