Need Build Ideas

[Panzermeyer]

I am looking for some help from the build masters here.

I am dusting off to run with some guildies a 16th level dwarven fighter. I have been thinking about some build ideas to change him up a bit. I had been going stalwart defender. However one of the guildies has a PDK Tank and is much better at intiming and damage mitigation than I. So I thought I would switch it up a bit.
This is my first life VIP so it is a 32 point build. With +4 tomes all around.

I still have my +20 stone so I was thinking redoing as a deep splash.

Some of the basic ideas I think I need.

TWF with Dwarven Axes since I already have a nice compliment of them.
Evasion
Overwhleming critical

I would like some good saves
I would like more survivability and a bit of self healing

There is part of me that would be interested in going 6 monk with Kensei to get centered weapons with dwarven axes. However I have never run more than a 2 monk splash, and I do not suspect I will have a very high wisdom. So I am not sure how well that will work.

So what I was thinking was potentially one of the following.

10 Fighter/6 Monk/4 Paladin
This would give me evasion, faster movement, LOH, divine might better saves, 9 bonus feats, lose out on teir 5 kensei enhancements

12 Fighter/6 Monk/2 Paladin
Evasion, LOH, better saves, 10 feats, kensei teir 5, would not get divine might till I can twist in turn undead which will be a while

14 Fighter/2 Monk/4 Paladin
Evasion, LOH, divine might, better saves, 10 bonus feats

12 Fighter/6 Monk/2 Cleric
Evasion, limited self healing, divine might, not as good saves, 10 bonus feats, kensei teir 5

12 Fighter/6 Cleric/2 Monk
Evasion, best self healing, burst, ameliorating strike, divine might, not as good saves, 9 bonus feats, kensei teir 5, hmm I guess this would be similiar to [https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...ter-Cleric%29] but with evasion.

I was also potentially thinking
12 Fighter/6 Ranger/2 Monk
Evasion, TWF feats for free, Bowstrength, manyshot, etc for free, not as good saves, 9 bonus feats without taking up a bunch of TWF and Bow so essesstially the most feats of all builds, I lose out on self healing for ranged burst damage and a ton of feats

The ranger version does seem nice, but I am concerned about the lack of self healing.
The 6 monk seems interesting to try a make a build that stays centered and has faster movement. But again with needing a decent dex, con and str (for TWF and OC) I just don't see having a very good wisdom. Would it still work well?

Hmm, after writing this the 6 cleric version seems interesting to access the warpriest tree for smites, dm, +10 PRR, burst, healing, etc.

What are thoughts on all these and maybe build ideas with the above. Or hell something different even along the same lines.

[kgoodson3]

There are many different acceptable ways to go here, but the general consensus is that 12 Fighter/6 Monk/2 Something would be best. Centered with Keen Edge and One with the Blade and Monk Stances = awesome sauce.

You could go 2 Paladin for saves/divine might or 2 Ranger for Bow Strength/possible fury shot set up or 2 Druid for double strike. Whatever really.

[Panzermeyer]

There are many different acceptable ways to go here, but the general consensus is that 12 Fighter/6 Monk/2 Something would be best. Centered with Keen Edge and One with the Blade and Monk Stances = awesome sauce.

You could go 2 Paladin for saves/divine might or 2 Ranger for Bow Strength/possible fury shot set up or 2 Druid for double strike. Whatever really.

I was playing around with the 6 Ranger/2 Monk version and really liked the amount of dodge and double strike I could get by spending some points in the Tempest Tree. With enhancements I would see +100% off hand attacks. And a base +13% dodge with feats and enhancements not including gear. But again the lack of self healing is not optimal.

The idea of a 12F/6M/2D sounds interesting. It would allow for some limited self healing with Vigor and access to coccoon right away if I started with that destiny. How would the double strike work out with Druid?

[unbongwah]

10 Fighter/6 Monk/4 Paladin
This would give me evasion, faster movement, LOH, divine might better saves, 9 bonus feats, lose out on teir 5 kensei enhancements

You would not lose T5 enhs w/this combo, since you only need ftr 8 (GWF) to access Keen Edge + One w/Blade. Your LoHs will suck with only 4 pally lvls, but it would open up Emp Heal for Rejuv Cocoon. The downside is you would lose Power Surge + GWS, which req's ftr 12.

12 Fighter/6 Monk/2 Paladin
Evasion, LOH, better saves, 10 feats, kensei teir 5, would not get divine might till I can twist in turn undead which will be a while

This combo would probably be better DPS in the long run, IMHO, since you would have Power Surge + GWS while keeping DM after you twist in BoU. OTOH, you would lose access to Emp Heal w/only 2 pally lvls; and you couldn't take Exalted Smite, Divine Sacrifice, nor heal amp from KotC.

I didn't see you list ftr 8 / monk 6 / pal 6; in essence, you trade the extra feat from ftr 10 for Unyielding Sovereignty, plus bump up Divine Favor to +2/+2. You'd also be able to take lvl 6 core enhs from pally.

The 6 monk seems interesting to try a make a build that stays centered and has faster movement. But again with needing a decent dex, con and str (for TWF and OC) I just don't see having a very good wisdom. Would it still work well?

If you're not going the unarmed (Stunning Fist) or 10K Stars route, then WIS is largely unnecessary on a monk-splashed build. On the rgr 6 version, you might want Zen Archery so you can take advantage of Master Earth stance; but w/+4 tome that means you only need base WIS 9 to start.

[kgoodson3]

8 Fighter 6 Ranger 6 Monk actually works very good for TWF as well. 6 Monk + 6 Ranger = 100% off hand attack. Still centered with expanded crit range and monk stances.