The Official Experience Curve Discussion Thread!

[SqueakofDoom]

Please use this thread to discuss the recent changes to the Experience Curve while leveling.

Current numbers on Lamannia are listed at the bottom of the Release Notes (Numbers may see further adjustment in the future.)

• It still takes 1,900,000 total XP to complete level 19 and reach level 20 on your first life.
  
  • Experience required to complete each level had been redistributed.
• Second life = 150% First Life XP
  
  • Overall XP needed to complete Second life has been decreased from what is currently on Live. (Second life characters now need 289,250 less XP to reach level 20.)
• Additional (3rd or above) life = 200% First Life XP
  
  • Overall XP needed to complete Third life (or fourth, etc.) has been decreased from what is currently on Live. (Third life characters now need 578,500 less XP to reach level 20.)

[Teh_Troll]

it's awesome.

What else is there to say?

I'm serious, this is a big bucket of whoohooo!!!

[Dunklerlindwurm]

imo nothing to discuss here

it is great

[danotmano1998]

Yeah, not much to say other than THANK YOU.

Win/Win

[xoowak]

Yes, two thumbs way up. As I posted in the reincarnation thread, the way the reduction is on the back end also mean a significant boots to Iconics/increase in the viability of using Iconic TR a lot.

A first life Iconic is unchanged,
A second life Iconic saves 302,500 XP (more than the 1-20 total savings)
A third+ life Iconic saves 605,000 XP (more than the 1-20 total saving)

[Scrapco]

This whole update looks great. Lots of nice bugfixes (I can *finally* get some lich dust!; visible lightning traps yay; LOD/Servants CR fixes), House C XP upgrades, and TR XP reduction. Ship it!

[ArcaneArcher52689]

mentioned elsewhere, but what will happen to characters that either have LESS experience at low level than now required, or HIGHER experience in the upper levels? Or will this not apply?

[Asmodeus451]

mentioned elsewhere, but what will happen to characters that either have LESS experience at low level than now required, or HIGHER experience in the upper levels? Or will this not apply?

allow me to second this.

although i suppose one way to find out would be to copy a character over to Lama-land

[sirgog]

Generally positive.

I'd have been more apprehensive about this change if Haste potions hadn't been changed to ML 1 (as once you are used to high level play, levels 1 to 3 feel glacially slow even without needing ~25% more total XP due to no hjaste) but the haste pot changes address that issue.

I was actually expecting this to be 100/160/220% of the base curve rather than 100/150/200, but either work.



What happens to a character that is currently on a 36 point life and in Heroic levels when U20 hits? Is their current XP number preserved or their current rank? If the current XP number is preserved, how do you handle someone that would lose levels under the new system? (For example, a player that took level 10 as soon as they are allowed to, then stopped playing until U20). What about a player that has more XP than the new heroic level cap (e.g someone who is at 4300k XP when U20 hits)? What about a player that is holding level 18 and nearly eligible to take 19 when the update hits (they would then be beyond the point of being forced to take 19).

[QuantumFX]

Squeak - Just noticed the new avatar: LOL!!!! And just skimming the release notes: This new XP table is perfect.

mentioned elsewhere, but what will happen to characters that either have LESS experience at low level than now required, or HIGHER experience in the upper levels? Or will this not apply?

The last time the devs changed the XP tables* you kept the XP and got your level if you had enough XP to earn it.

*Back in 2006

[Deathdefy]

Fundamentally, great change - big fan.

I hate to not just say 'it's fine, ty, gj', but I'm going to make a suggestion:

Spending longer at 1 - 5 is **** <-- not a bad word at all! Seriously? Whatever, let's pretend I'm up in arms and swearing.

1 - 5 are dead boring, lack the quests to level up smoothly with just one and done bravery runs of stuff 2 levels below, and generally is repetitive and unpleasant already. Don't make it longer.

Is it possible you could retain 1 - 5 at old xp values, and spread the difference between their adjusted values and their old values over 6 - 18? It would be a negligible change to those levels, but remove the exasperation that will come from grinding Durk's, New Ringleader and Stealthy Repo even harder than currently.

I know messing with the numbers sounds unpleasant, but making the early game longer is a genuine moderate con (albeit not one that outweighs the overall changes).

TL;DR It's excellent, but could be substantially better if you keep the low levels' xp requirements as they are.

[erethizon]

it's awesome.

What else is there to say?

I'm serious, this is a big bucket of whoohooo!!!

I'm almost speechless. I did not know you were even capable of feeling happiness.

Have to agree with you though. This will be a great change.

[Silverleafeon]

it's awesome.

What else is there to say?

I'm serious, this is a big bucket of whoohooo!!!

The Troll has spoken; all hail The Troll...