Carry a Big Stick (13Rog/4F/3M, H-Orc) concept -for comparison to Halfling dex build

[Inoukchuk]

Carry a Big Stick (13Rog/4Ftr/3Monk, Half Orc):
Stats(36pt):
Str: 20
Dex: 14
Con: 14
Int: 12
Wis: 10
Cha: 6
For 34 pt build lower dex to 13 or wis to 10. For 32 pt build do both. Optionally Int can be lowered if you are comfortable with fewer skills
Leveling order and Feats:
1) rogue - dodge
2) monk - power attack
3) monk - THF, cleave
4) rogue
5) fighter - WF
6) rogue - Great cleave
7) rogue
8) monk
9) rogue - ITHF
10) fighter - IC: bludgeon
11) fighter
12) rogue - adept of forms
13) rogue
14) fighter - WS
15) rogue - GTHF
16) rogue
17) rogue - imp evasion
18) rogue - master of forms
19) rogue
20) rogue - opportunist
21) OC
24) imp sneak attack
27) blinding speed ? PTHF ? Tactician ?

Enhancements:
HORC (18):
1 - Orcish Fury
2 - Orcish STR
1 - Orcish Fury
2 - Orcish STR
3 - mighty sundering OR stubborn
2 - Orcish Weapon Training
2 - Orcish Weapon Training
2 - Orcish Weapon Training
2 - Orcish Weapon Training
1 - brutality

Acrobat(33):
1 - staff control
1 - stick fighting
1 - tumbler
1 - kip up
2 - staff training
3 - theif acrobatics
2 - staff training
4 - str II
2 - staff training
6 - sweeping strikes
2 - staff training
6 - quick strikes
2 - staff specialization

Kensei(22):
1 - Kensei focus(druidic)
2 - WGS (druidic)
3 - haste boost
2 - WGS (druidic)
6 - tactics
2 - WGS (druidic)
4 - str II
2 - WGS (druidic)

Henshin(7):
1 - riddle of fire
2 - staff training
2 - way of the clever monkey (or tortoise)
2 - staff training

STR(56) - 20 base + 6 enh + 4 tome + 2 ship + 6 level up + 8 item + 3 insightful + 5 primal +2 profane = 56 (+23)
Tactics (if subbing in stun) - 10 + 3 enh + 23 str + 10 item + 5 exc item + 6 ED + 3 sunder(+2 PL) = 60 (62)
Tactics (if subbing in trip) - 10 + 3 enh + 23 str + 10 item + 5 exc item + 6 ED + 4 imp trip (+2 PL = 61 (63)
Damage:
+34 - STR*1.5
+6 - horc tree
+6 - acrobat tree
+6 - kensei tree
+3 - henshin tree
+2 - ship buff (bugbear)
+2 - weap spec
+6 - deadly VI item
+10 - power attack
=76
Stout Oak:
+34 - base dice 6+4[2d6] (1.5 dance of flowers, .5 imp PA)
=110 17-20/x5, 19-20/x7 + fracturing (7) + felling the oak
Sireth:
+31.5 - base dice 7+4.5[1d10] (1.5 dance of flowers, .5 imp PA)
=107.5 13-20/x3, 19-20/x5 + Sup Good (10.5) + Lit (9.15) + Clouburst (8.75) + FoM


Weaknesses compared to Mr Sticky Buddy halfling dex build:
Lower UMD from 6 cha
Weaker defenses from lower dodge/saves, no incorp, no emp heal, no blue bar
Strengths:
HULK SMASH! (+ ~15% dam or about 43 dam/swing with Sireth, more like 28 for SOWS)
Still has evasion, decent reflex, some dodge, enough UMD, knockdown immunity, trapping
Has enough STR to make tactics viable if you scroll Tensor's, would require a small rework of feats and enhancements

[Inoukchuk]

reservered

[Teen]

for str i normally do 12monk/7rogue/1druid


I like what 12monk offers you > 13rogue

I mean you'll have slightly less umd and sa


but besides that you aren't losing much.


You can also climb up the henshin mystic tree instead of thief acrobat(the melee doublestrike from their is still nice)

[Inoukchuk]

for str i normally do 12monk/7rogue/1druid


I like what 12monk offers you > 13rogue

I mean you'll have slightly less umd and sa


but besides that you aren't losing much.


You can also climb up the henshin mystic tree instead of thief acrobat(the melee doublestrike from their is still nice)

Well, you lose opportunist, 3D6 sneak attack, and slightly harder to max skills, but you gain abundent step, master of forms, poison immunity, wholeness of body and 10% move speed so.... you might be on to something =) And maybe more important you gain a monk PL instead of rogue (monk is better IMO). On the other hand.... you lose knockdown immunity, and that may not be acceptable to me.


But I'm not impressed by Henshin tree as much as acrobat, would probably stick with enhancements as is

[Teen]

Well, you lose opportunist, 3D6 sneak attack, and slightly harder to max skills, but you gain abundent step, master of forms, poison immunity, wholeness of body and 10% move speed so.... you might be on to something =) And maybe more important you gain a monk PL instead of rogue (monk is better IMO). On the other hand.... you lose knockdown immunity, and that may not be acceptable to me.


But I'm not impressed by Henshin tree as much as acrobat, would probably stick with enhancements as is

Yea TA is definitely the better tree ... I'm currently playing w/ the T5's in Henshin atm.


1 druid also opens up shillelagh/rams for leveling(stave of seer is wood so +1 [W] for it) and empower healing as a feat for cocoon if you're going for more self sufficiency..

But definitely your build is strong and isn't a bad idea... with both builds traps leveling up will be easy with the gear, but EE traps cause a problem if you are trying for traps in EE