Radiant Titan revisited - Clr17/Pal2/Ftr1 melee/healing spec

[wtorchia]

Update / bump time again. I am now lvl 26. I just picked up a ring of deceit last night. So after juggling some gear and augments here is where I am at:

DPS set up:
Goggles: Con opp - SP
Head: EH black dragon - 8 con, 35 life, Globe of True Imperial Blood
Armor: Flawless back - 14 PRR
Gloves - PDK (I REALLY want to replace these. I just have no other way to get the 30% healing amp)
Ring 1: Ring of Deceit - +2 char
Ring 2: Ring of the Stalker - 20 toughness, + 7 heal (Will be upgraded soon)
Neck : 175 SP, Deady 6 (looking for something better. Open to suggestions)
Trinket: Planar Focus Prowess - 8 st.
Belt : Smoke - HP (I am going to replace this with a Min 2 one or get a set of Goatskin with fort on them)
Boot: 110% fort, speed (Once the belt is replaced these will prob be spiked or Goatskin if not.)
Wrist: 20% healing amp, Superior Parrying
Weapons: 2 x Celestia - main 1 has Planar set upgrade.
126 poss spell power stick for aura.

ED: LD
Twists: Brace for impact, Primal Scream, Sense Weakness

Healing setup:
Goggles: Con opp - SP
Head: EH black dragon - 8 con, 35 life, Globe of True Imperial Blood
Armor: Flawless Green
Gloves - PDK
Ring 1: 108 pos spell power
Ring 2: Signet of the Shining Sun
Neck : 200 SP, 8 wis
Trinket: Holy Symbol of Lolth
Belt : Smoke - HP
Boot: 110% fort, speed
Wrist: 20% healing amp, Superior Parrying
Weapons: Various caster sticks and heal scrolls

ED: EA
Twists: Brace for impact, Fey Form, Healing Hands

Over all I am LOVING this setup. Can't really ask for more out of it. 2 x Celestia blinds most mobs fast. Add in all of the speed / damage boosts and I am just cutting up mobs. Once I replace the belt, boots and necklace I am not really sure what else will need tweaking at cap.

I am debating if I will ETR, or just play at cap for a while. If anyone has a build that they like that they run in EA or US EDs I would love to see them. I just can not find a set up that I am willing to ETR 3-9 times with.

[painkiller3]

anyone else have a gear setup they'd care to recommend?

[firemedium_jt]

Update / bump time again. I am now lvl 26. I just picked up a ring of deceit last night. So after juggling some gear and augments here is where I am at:

DPS set up:
Goggles: Con opp - SP
Head: EH black dragon - 8 con, 35 life, Globe of True Imperial Blood
Armor: Flawless back - 14 PRR
Gloves - PDK (I REALLY want to replace these. I just have no other way to get the 30% healing amp)
Ring 1: Ring of Deceit - +2 char
Ring 2: Ring of the Stalker - 20 toughness, + 7 heal (Will be upgraded soon)
Neck : 175 SP, Deady 6 (looking for something better. Open to suggestions)
Trinket: Planar Focus Prowess - 8 st.
Belt : Smoke - HP (I am going to replace this with a Min 2 one or get a set of Goatskin with fort on them)
Boot: 110% fort, speed (Once the belt is replaced these will prob be spiked or Goatskin if not.)
Wrist: 20% healing amp, Superior Parrying
Weapons: 2 x Celestia - main 1 has Planar set upgrade.
126 poss spell power stick for aura.

ED: LD
Twists: Brace for impact, Primal Scream, Sense Weakness

Healing setup:
Goggles: Con opp - SP
Head: EH black dragon - 8 con, 35 life, Globe of True Imperial Blood
Armor: Flawless Green
Gloves - PDK
Ring 1: 108 pos spell power
Ring 2: Signet of the Shining Sun
Neck : 200 SP, 8 wis
Trinket: Holy Symbol of Lolth
Belt : Smoke - HP
Boot: 110% fort, speed
Wrist: 20% healing amp, Superior Parrying
Weapons: Various caster sticks and heal scrolls

ED: EA
Twists: Brace for impact, Fey Form, Healing Hands

Over all I am LOVING this setup. Can't really ask for more out of it. 2 x Celestia blinds most mobs fast. Add in all of the speed / damage boosts and I am just cutting up mobs. Once I replace the belt, boots and necklace I am not really sure what else will need tweaking at cap.

I am debating if I will ETR, or just play at cap for a while. If anyone has a build that they like that they run in EA or US EDs I would love to see them. I just can not find a set up that I am willing to ETR 3-9 times with.

I hope when you say caster sticks you dont mean scepters or staff. You can find martial and exotic weapons with spell power, lore, and a red slot for ruby spell power. I like Scimitars for their critical range with Improved Critical slash feat. Kukri critical range is 18 to 20 also and good too for TWF.

What are the Bracers that have healing amp and parry?

[RPGMasta]

I hope when you say caster sticks you dont mean scepters or staff. You can find martial and exotic weapons with spell power, lore, and a red slot for ruby spell power. I like Scimitars for their critical range with Improved Critical slash feat. Kukri critical range is 18 to 20 also and good too for TWF.

What are the Bracers that have healing amp and parry?

i saw an item in the AH called lesser convalescence or something of that nature.

[axel15810]

I hope when you say caster sticks you dont mean scepters or staff. You can find martial and exotic weapons with spell power, lore, and a red slot for ruby spell power. I like Scimitars for their critical range with Improved Critical slash feat. Kukri critical range is 18 to 20 also and good too for TWF.

What are the Bracers that have healing amp and parry?

Convalescent. They no longer drop. When the loot tables were revamped last year they were taken out and they've yet to be put back in. You can ocassionally see them on the auction house, usually for crazy high prices.

[Toxxyk]

I TR'd my caster spec cleric into a purple dragon knight version of this build.

I'm having a blast with it. By far the most fun I've had with a melee build.

Thanks!

[Kindoki]

I TR'd my caster spec cleric into a purple dragon knight version of this build.

I'm having a blast with it. By far the most fun I've had with a melee build.

Thanks!

came across this thread while I was searching for ideas on the same thing. I have a caster cleric I decided to move to melee and was thinking PDK to start. Though I'm also looking at divine crusader rather than unyielding sentinel, as a possibility.

Question for anyone out there. I'm just not feeling the THF; regardless of the fact I know it's quite a bit less effective, I'm thinking classic cleric sword and board. Can anyone give me some ideas for (or point me to) a build with sword and board? I'd rather not reinvent the wheel if I don't need to.

[pafunk]

Here's a summary of what I've gotten from this thread for easy reference.

THF
32pt: 16/10/14/10/10/16 (could drop CHA to 14 and boost DEX to 14 for reflex saves, as OP suggests)
34pt: 16/12/14/10/10/16 (or 14 Dex/15 Cha)
36pt: 16/14/14/10/10/16
Personally, I think the extra Cha bonus would be more worthwhile than +28 hp at level 28, but maybe not.

1: Power Attack
1h: empower healing
2f: cleave
3: thf
6: great cleave
9: maximize
12: ic: slash
15: ithf
18: gthf
21: quicken
24: overwhelming crit
26e: perfect thf
27: Blinding speed
28e: perfect twf/other?

Human – 17 pts
tier 3 healing amp
Purple Dragon Aura (+2 saves) (if PDK)

Radiant Servant – Cap 32/33 pts

Warpriest – 10-15 pts
hp, dr 5/-, divine might, 10prr and inflame
ameliorating strike?

Kensai – 4 pts
haste boost

Divine Disciple – 9 pts?
saves, SP

TWF
36 pt: 16/14/14/10/10/16
32 pt: drop CHA 2

1: Power Attack
1h: empower healing
2f: cleave
3: twf
6: great cleave
9: maximize
12: itwf
15: gtwf
18: ic: slashing
21: quicken
24: overwhelming crit
26e: perfect twf
27: Blinding speed
28e: toughness/guardian angel/other?

[unbongwah]

Any thoughts on adapting this build to SWF+orb combo?

[pafunk]

Any thoughts on adapting this build to SWF+orb combo?

Keeping Concentration, Heal, and Balance as high as you can, you should be able to take Improved SWF at 9 and Greater SWF at 15 (you should hit balance 7 at lvl 13). With a +2 INT tome at 7 you can get UMD up to 10 (without it you only get 3). IC and Maximize are taken at 12 or 18. Sounds like you can't take Perfect TWF, so take toughness or something else. SWF looks pretty appealing with this build - downside is ameliorating strike will heal for less. This is with longswords/Sovereign Host for favored weapon bonuses - if you're using an exotic weapon my guess would be to bump metamagic feats back. Or maybe dwarf if you're into flavor builds.

EDIT: Here's one way to arrange feats with a weapon proficiency. You end up losing a metamagic feat.

1: Power Attack
1h: Cleave
2f: weapon proficiency: bastard sword
3: swf
6: great cleave
9: improved swf
12: improved critical: slashing OR metamagic feat
15: greater swf
18: empower healing/maximize OR improved critical
21: quicken/maximize
24: overwhelming crit
26e: perfect swf
27: Blinding speed
28e: perfect twf (if possible) or ????

[Nodoze]

Here's a summary of what I've gotten from this thread for easy reference.

THF
32pt: 16/10/14/10/10/16 (could drop CHA to 14 and boost DEX to 14 for reflex saves, as OP suggests)
...
1: Power Attack
1h: empower healing
2f: cleave
3: thf
6: great cleave
9: maximize
12: ic: slash
15: ithf
18: gthf
21: quicken
24: overwhelming crit
26e: perfect thf
27: Blinding speed
28e: perfect twf/other?

Human – 17 pts
tier 3 healing amp
Purple Dragon Aura (+2 saves) (if PDK)

Radiant Servant – Cap 32/33 pts

Warpriest – 10-15 pts
hp, dr 5/-, divine might, 10prr and inflame
ameliorating strike?

Kensai – 4 pts
haste boost

Divine Disciple – 9 pts?
saves, SP
...

Thanks for the summary.

Would the above be a good stats starting point for a new F2P character with access to 32 point builds but no prior gear or tomes?

If you were a true F2P at 28 points would you reduce as follows?:

28pt: 16/10/14/10/10/14

Without tomes until level 20 the max wisdom item you will be able to get would be a +6 item so likely would need to take multiple wisdom bonuses from human and cleric trees until you get the commendation or other gear at 20+ giving at least +9 from some combo (+7enh, +2ins, +1exc, racial, class). As long as that was understood I don't know why it couldn't be a new player friendly build...

EDIT: Overall I like the feat line up though personally for me if I was the main healer in the party or solo I would want quicken much earlier for no fail heals...

I assume that taking maximize at level 9 is to get the most out of Divine Punishment at 10 and Blade Barrier at 12 due to taking Fighter at level 2 (assuming saving Paladin till later levels).

Would the following be better if you were the main healer (who also wants to melee) in a new F2P party?:

1: Power Attack
1h: empower healing
2f: cleave
3: thf
6: great cleave
9: maximize
12: quicken
15: ic: slash
18: ithf
21: gthf
24: overwhelming crit
26e: perfect thf
27: Blinding speed
28e: perfect twf/other?

[Lalangamena]

is similar build will be still playable if i take cleric17/paladin3 without the fighter level?

what feats will i dump? (in two handed weapon version)

I am asking because of the upcoming balance of divine grace.

[painkiller3]

is similar build will be still playable if i take cleric17/paladin3 without the fighter level?

what feats will i dump? (in two handed weapon version)

I am asking because of the upcoming balance of divine grace.

probably maximize and gthf...unfortunately there's no spot to put it back in unless you don't take blinding speed, but since glancing blows don't work when you're moving it's probably the best way to do it

re : SWF and orbs...don't you need to be in swashbuckler stance for orbs to work with SWF?

[Vellrad]

probably maximize and gthf...unfortunately there's no spot to put it back in unless you don't take blinding speed, but since glancing blows don't work when you're moving it's probably the best way to do it

re : SWF and orbs...don't you need to be in swashbuckler stance for orbs to work with SWF?

no.
you can have nothing or orb, 2 levels of artificer adds runearm, t3 or t4 (dont remembeR) swashbuckler adds bucklers.

[painkiller3]

no.
you can have nothing or orb, 2 levels of artificer adds runearm, t3 or t4 (dont remembeR) swashbuckler adds bucklers.

very cool, i misunderstood it...you need t3 to swashbuckle with orbs/runearms, but that doesn't affect SWF without it. sorry for spreading misinformation :s

[Toxxyk]

I have been playing this build and loving it.

Now that the Devs have confirmed the nerf to Divine Grace, does this build still make sense with 2 levels of Pally?

[daniel7]

I have been playing this build and loving it.

Now that the Devs have confirmed the nerf to Divine Grace, does this build still make sense with 2 levels of Pally?

Good news is you don't have to take cleave and great cleave for overwhelming critical though.

I'm coming back to the game after taking a two year break. Does Stunning Fist still work well? I looked at the wiki and it says it still uses character level for the DC and not Monk levels like what had been proposed.

[Warinx]

How would you build this for u23 with the pally updates etc?

17 Cleric 3 Paladin for the stance and +3 saves?

[firemedium_jt]

I would take PAL tier 2 exalted cleave and replace your cleave shortcut hotkey with it.

With PAL3 u might look at Exalted Smite but I read the animation is bugged.

I just cant see dropping FTR1 and I think we might need CLR17 for the expansion. I will wait after that to change CLR17 to 15 or 13 although the +5LR is on sale. I like the action boosts from ftr tier 1 for haste and human damage boost.

If you are a strike down cleaver type build with all the special attacks that interupt normal attacks do u need ftr haste?