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    Default Post U19 Shiradi Sorc - the never-ending missile spam

    Hi, as i just read a discussion about the split with 4 fvs lvl in it, i decided to post my actual Sorc build for u. Feel free to tell me what u think about it...

    Its the german Wunder-Spammer
    Zangesh qui Clades


    - a 14 Sorcerer / 4 FvS / 2 Paladin toon on lvl 28 on the sweet Server Wayfinder - yes we're still alive and having fun! :-)
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    Race, Alignment & Classes
    Human - lawful good - 14 Sorcerer / 4 FVS / 2 Paladin

    (36 Point-Build) - Past-Lifes: 3 x Wizard
    Starting Stats
    Strength 8
    Dexterity 10
    Constitution 18
    Intelligence 10
    Wisdom 8
    Charisma 18 - all lvl ups here
    (+3 tomes for Dex/Con needed, for Int +4 if u wanna get some UMD too)

    Skills
    Spellcraft max
    Concentration max
    Diplomacy max
    Tumble 1
    UMD 5
    Perform 1

    Feats
    1 - Force of Personality
    1 - Toughness
    3 - Extend Spell
    6 - Mental Toughness
    9 - Maximize
    12 - Improved Mental Toughness
    15 - Dodge
    18 - Mobility
    21 - Epic Mental Toughness
    24 - Epic Toughness
    27 - Ruin

    Destiny Feats
    26 - Epic Spell Power Force
    28 - Forced Escape ( i test it atm, but will change to Epic Spell Power Fire i think )

    Spells

    LVL - Name (fat ones are the important ones)
    1 - Jump, Magic Missile, Nightshield, Protection from Evil
    2 - Resist Energy, Knock, Scorching Ray, Gust of Wind
    3 - Displacement, Chain Missiles, Haste, Rage (will change maybe Haste for Sleet Storm, but can cast that of Scrolls too)
    4 - Dimension Door, Force Missiles, Enervation, Ice Storm
    5 - Cloudkill, Niac's, Eladar's
    6 - Acid Fog, Greater Heroism
    7 - Otto's Sphere of Dancing (atm mostly for EH XP/Item farming runs - there it works well)

    Enhancements


    Here i have to change when Server online again, 1 Charisma (got uneven atm) to something else, dont know yet what, maybe some in the Warpriest Tree

    Human Race (5 AP)
    Core - Human Versatility Spell Power Boost (1 AP), Human Adaptability +1 Charisma (2 AP)
    Tier 1 - Improved Recovery (2 AP)

    FvS - Angel of Vengeance ( 33 AP )
    Core: Font of Power (1AP), Shield of Condemnation (1AP)
    Tier 1 - Scourge 3/3 (3 AP), Smiting (2 AP), Animus 2/3 (2 AP)
    Tier 2 - Just Rewarded 3/3 (3 AP), Smiting (2 AP), Spell Power Boost (3 AP)
    Tier 3 - Smiting (2 AP), Charisma (2 AP), Spell Penetration (2 AP)
    Tier 4 - Smiting (2 AP), Charisma (2 AP), Intense Faith 3/3 (6 AP)

    Sorcerer - Fire Savant ( 34 AP )
    Core: Fire Savant (1 AP), Fire Affinity (1 AP), Greater Fire Affinity (1 AP), Immolation (1 AP)
    Tier 1 - Spell Crit Fire (2 AP), Conflagration 3/3 (3 AP)
    Tier 2 - Spell Crit Fire (2 AP), Fanning the Flames 3/3 (3 AP), Efficient Maximize 3/3 (6 AP)
    Tier 3 - Spell Crit Fire (2 AP), Charisma (2 AP), Spell Penetration (2 AP)
    Tier 4 - Spell Crit Fire (2 AP), Charisma (2 AP)
    Tier 5 - Awaken Elemental Weakness Fire (2 AP), Elemental Diversification Power of Force (2 AP)

    FvS - Warpriest (8 AP)
    Core - Smite Foe (1 AP)
    Tier 1 - Toughness 3/3 (3 AP), Awareness 1/3 (1 AP)
    Tier 2 - Wall of Steel 3/3 (3 AP)

    Epci Destiny / Twists
    Epic Destiny: Shiradi Champion
    Twist of Fades: Cocoon, Unearthly Reactions, Energy Burst

    Here are my Stats with actual Gear, Shipbuffs and Buffs i get from my Spells (no scrolls, wands or potions!)
    Hit-Points: 863
    Spellpoints: 3211
    Constitution: 40
    Charisma: 51 (will remove 1 in enhancements soon)
    Saves: 69 / 68 / 76
    Dodge: 20 %

    and much more...

    nearly endless Spellpoints with the Enhancements, Spell-Crits with the right gear Force/Fire ~30, selfheal with Cocoon high enough with good HealingAmp, can use all scrolls, good saves and and and... i like it




    And here is my planed Endgame-Gear, missing some parts of it atm, so acutal the build will still become stronger at the end.

    The Build posted has much of the gear but not yet all, so its not maxed at all...

    Endgame-Gear

    Helm - Blue Dragon Helm (EH or EE) with Ins.Charisma +3, +40 HP, Globe of Imperial Blood

    Armor - Flawless Blue Dragon Robe, Greater Spell Focus Enchentment

    Cloak - Epci Cloak of Night

    Trinket - Idol of Fortune, +250 SP

    Necklace - Stolen Necklace with Spellcraft +19 (EE), +15 Concentration

    Googles - Greensteel Googles HP or SP, it's up to u, i use the HP-Googles right now

    Bracers - Sage's Cuffs / Convalescant Bracers of Parrying just what u need in the actual situation, but >95% it will be the Sage's Cuffs

    Gloves - Purple Dragon Knight Gauntlets

    Belt - Random Loot i wear one with Constitution +10, Dodge 10%

    Boots - Halcyon Boots, +15 Diplomacy, +20 Vitality

    Ring 1 - Guardian Ring, +15 Heal

    Ring 2 - Ring of Stormreaver Prophecy (EE), Resistance +8, +15 Perform here i wait for a better Random Resistance Ring...

    Weapons - Random Loot here u need two one-handed Weapons, best with +10 enhancement and max.Force-and Firespellpower on it, also Fire Spell Crit max and a Red Augment Slot for Devotion. With Luck u may get also a better Enchantment Focus on one with all others, that would be the best. Iam still searching for the right weapons, harder on a tiny Server, AH is dead ;-) Right now iam still using the Twilight + Planar Focus


    Greetings,

    Zotze aka Zangesh / Laladi / Zindragh at Wayfinder
    Last edited by Zotze; 11-18-2013 at 12:13 PM.
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    Zangesh qui Clades - Fire Sorc - Triple Completionist
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    Laladi- Dagger Trapper Machine - Heroic Completionist
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    Zindragh Zornbinder - Ranged, but only a hand full of lifes, more mule then active
    Aibus - Tank, but only a hand full of lifes, more mule then active

    - man nannte ihn Zangesh qui Clades -

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    If you really want to be human i think its ok, but tbh its just so worse than wf with its recon... you know dmg incoming in ee is big heal scroll/twist let you self heal but you just so slow with it
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    Quote Originally Posted by wey4lust View Post
    If you really want to be human i think its ok, but tbh its just so worse than wf with its recon... you know dmg incoming in ee is big heal scroll/twist let you self heal but you just so slow with it
    agreed. I'd also take some points from Diplomacy and put them towards perform. you are losing a lot of sonic spell power if you don't put at least 1 point in perform. You should be able to get enough Diplo with GS Conco Op and your CHA bonus with minimal points in Diplo skill.

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    Good point with perform, just forgot the last time TR to put 1 in it.
    Will do it when i Epic TR my second time the next weeks. thx for it

    Also i'm still thinking about changing it in a warforged, but still hate the machine-characters maybe i will give it a try in the next months... but atm i'm very happy with a fleshy - looks better and cocoon ticks for high over 100 hp.
    - new to Orien - let's have a look -

    Zangesh qui Clades - Fire Sorc - Triple Completionist
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    Laladi- Dagger Trapper Machine - Heroic Completionist
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    Zindragh Zornbinder - Ranged, but only a hand full of lifes, more mule then active
    Aibus - Tank, but only a hand full of lifes, more mule then active

    - man nannte ihn Zangesh qui Clades -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zotze View Post
    Good point with perform, just forgot the last time TR to put 1 in it.
    Will do it when i Epic TR my second time the next weeks. thx for it

    Also i'm still thinking about changing it in a warforged, but still hate the machine-characters maybe i will give it a try in the next months... but atm i'm very happy with a fleshy - looks better and cocoon ticks for high over 100 hp.
    I am running a human 15 sorc / 3 Fvs / 2 monk now and I love it so far. I have enough xp to take epic level #5 and have better sustained dps on any caster build I've tried before. I actually started out as one of my normal dc builds (I've never tried and never had interested in a non-dc caster before) but decided part way through to change my build on the fly after I grouped with a 13 wiz/4 fvs/3 monk on my first storm horns quest (it was on EH). I was using my dc Wiz and was burning through the spell points like crazy. I did ok for trash, but when it came to the red names I wasn't contributing much in terms of dps (one red name had like 150k HP) and spell points were always a problem. I came to the realization that it would be just way too hard to try to make a dc caster work on EE stormhorns. DC casters have been heavily nerfed in DDO and they (with the insane saving throws and spell resistances in the past 6 updates plus no new spells or ways to further increase CLs or MCLs...it will get even worse with the level cap increase to 30) and have all but forced us into shiradi builds.

    Have you considered empower healing instead of Mobility? That will help your Cocoons a lot. I am going to switch empower healing in myself.
    Last edited by Hathorian; 11-20-2013 at 12:35 PM.

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    I just started my second life using this build as Bladeforged and I have to say it's killer. I'm a new player so spell point management is an issue with casters, but with this build I'm never worried. By the time I run into a shrine I'm rarely below half spell points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hathorian View Post

    Have you considered empower healing instead of Mobility? That will help your Cocoons a lot. I am going to switch empower healing in myself.
    I changed my build to a Bladeforged yesterday, made a Epic TR, then Heroic TR to Iconic and with Stone of XP and some Quests i reached today already lvl25.
    And i can say, its much more better then before. But it also seems that the Epic Past Life Feat Energy Criticals or something with the Bladeforged or whatever has increased my damage much more then before.
    It seems i have no 2 different crits. The damage seems like normal, crit and critx2. Made with energyburst about 7-8k damage on a crit before and now i make about 50% of my energybursts in the 15k+ damage range. (see damage for 2k, 6k and the 15k for example at the same mob...)
    Dont know where it comes from and still all my firedamage seems boosted x2 ... so maybe Energy Criticals is multiplier x3 instead of critchance +3% ? ^^

    Quote Originally Posted by Bererez View Post
    I just started my second life using this build as Bladeforged and I have to say it's killer. I'm a new player so spell point management is an issue with casters, but with this build I'm never worried. By the time I run into a shrine I'm rarely below half spell points.
    Thats it, i have no quest with the build where i have to shrine anymore. Except i want to have a new tea of the queen. I lose only SP at the beginning for the buffs and sometimes for the fogs/storms/clouds or now some recon.
    Last edited by Zotze; 11-24-2013 at 07:13 PM.
    - new to Orien - let's have a look -

    Zangesh qui Clades - Fire Sorc - Triple Completionist
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    Laladi- Dagger Trapper Machine - Heroic Completionist
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    Zindragh Zornbinder - Ranged, but only a hand full of lifes, more mule then active
    Aibus - Tank, but only a hand full of lifes, more mule then active

    - man nannte ihn Zangesh qui Clades -

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