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    Default Sell "empty" XP gems in the DDO store.

    My latest whacky idea . . . we know turbine has the tech to max those little XP gems we get from daily dice rolls.

    Why not sell "empty" ones that we can fill with XP by earning XP in quests? Say they can hold up to 1.5 million XP, you run quests and instead of the XP being applied to you character it gets put in the crystal to be used later.

    Why would we want to do this? That's easy, ED leveling sucks. These crystals would let you run quests in strong EDs and then later apply the XP to weak EDs . . . would let you play strong while never having to flush XP down the toilet.

    Make them BTC or course to prevent exploitation, probably exclusive as well.

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    mmmm as a BTC item, I could go for something like that.
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    it would probably need to reset on tr as well to have any chance of existing. though being able to fill the gem with epic xp and use it to fast track a heroic life would be nice.

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    I'd be ok if it only worked with epic XP.

    It'd be like an old-school PNP Thought Bottle. Awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raznorw View Post
    it would probably need to reset on tr as well to have any chance of existing. though being able to fill the gem with epic xp and use it to fast track a heroic life would be nice.
    if it capped at 1.5 million (enough to fill an ED) that carrying over to a heroic TR while nice wouldn't even put Otto's boxes out of business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh_Troll View Post
    if it capped at 1.5 million (enough to fill an ED) that carrying over to a heroic TR while nice wouldn't even put Otto's boxes out of business.
    That wouldn't suck either - BTC and exclusive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh_Troll View Post
    Why not sell "empty" ones that we can fill with XP by earning XP in quests? Say they can hold up to 1.5 million XP, you run quests and instead of the XP being applied to you character it gets put in the crystal to be used later.
    Wow. This actually seems like a really good idea! I'm kind of amazed.... :-P

    As others have mentioned, making this BtC seems like a necessity to avoid incredible cheesiness. And does not survive going into a TR cache. I would even love these things if they only collected a fraction of the XP earned, just so long as they let me play in the ED that I wanted to, and apply the XP to one that I do not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh_Troll View Post
    My latest whacky idea . . . we know turbine has the tech to max those little XP gems we get from daily dice rolls.

    Why not sell "empty" ones that we can fill with XP by earning XP in quests? Say they can hold up to 1.5 million XP, you run quests and instead of the XP being applied to you character it gets put in the crystal to be used later.

    Why would we want to do this? That's easy, ED leveling sucks. These crystals would let you run quests in strong EDs and then later apply the XP to weak EDs . . . would let you play strong while never having to flush XP down the toilet.

    Make them BTC or course to prevent exploitation, probably exclusive as well.
    SO you want to Level a different ED while you are currently in one?

    Didn't they already accidentally try that it was deemed an exploit?
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    So three of these (4.5M XP) would essentially be a free trip from 1-20 on a third lifer? Depending on the cost, and how it compares to Otto's, that could even further devalue Heroic Completionist and Heroic PLs. You could, in theory, level a character from 1-20, buy 3 blank gems, spend the next 3 days filling those up with cheap Epic XP, then when the timer is up, TR, back to 20, and start again. You could get Heroic Completionist without ever playing any Heroic content after the first life.

    Second, wouldnt this just let you double-dip on XP bonuses? The bonus is applied once when you earn the XP then "bank" it, then applied again when you eat the stone...or are these, like Bigby's stones, not affected by XP bonuses?

    Lastly, I dont think the game technically allows for individualized items like this...you cant have your own stone with a unique amount of XP. Every stone has its own value, and is a discrete item in the database. Every 200 XP stone, for example, is exactly the same, because they're all cloned from the same "master" item, they arent all unique items - your inventory just says "you have one of those".

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    Quote Originally Posted by droid327 View Post
    So three of these (4.5M XP) would essentially be a free trip from 1-20 on a third lifer? Depending on the cost, and how it compares to Otto's, that could even further devalue Heroic Completionist and Heroic PLs. You could, in theory, level a character from 1-20, buy 3 blank gems, spend the next 3 days filling those up with cheap Epic XP, then when the timer is up, TR, back to 20, and start again. You could get Heroic Completionist without ever playing any Heroic content after the first life.
    Exclusive (as proposed) = you can only have 1. I'm sure you can do things with bank shenanigans to prevent it as well.

    Second, wouldnt this just let you double-dip on XP bonuses? The bonus is applied once when you earn the XP then "bank" it, then applied again when you eat the stone...or are these, like Bigby's stones, not affected by XP bonuses?
    Well, they don't exist yet - who knows.

    Lastly, I dont think the game technically allows for individualized items like this...you cant have your own stone with a unique amount of XP. Every stone has its own value, and is a discrete item in the database. Every 200 XP stone, for example, is exactly the same, because they're all cloned from the same "master" item, they arent all unique items - your inventory just says "you have one of those".
    Maybe, but maybe it isn't an inventory item. Maybe it is a tome you read that sets a character flag, who knows.
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    I don't hate this idea, I admit.

    Quote Originally Posted by droid327 View Post
    that could even further devalue Heroic Completionist and Heroic PLs.
    And? You say that like it matters, but it really doesn't.

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    They could set them to have a minimum level to prevent using them to skip heroic leveling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok.cry View Post
    They could set them to have a minimum level to prevent using them to skip heroic leveling.
    Yeah. Or they could just put Looms back in the store as well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    Yeah. Or they could just put Looms back in the store as well...
    Sheers, not looms. Shears had side-effects that we're probably better off not having back in DDO.

    I like the min-level idea if you really don't want people burning them in heroics. Min-level 20, exclusive, BTC. Charge as much as an XP tome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    SO you want to Level a different ED while you are currently in one?

    Didn't they already accidentally try that it was deemed an exploit?
    No, it was deemed an exploit to enjoy multiple ED's abilities, at the same time. Because that was a major exploit that was, you know, trivializing the game with a cheap DDO store purchase. Which, of course, they put on sale as soon as the news about how to exploit this became common knowledge, and was acknowledged by a dev.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh_Troll View Post
    Sheers, not looms. Shears had side-effects that we're probably better off not having back in DDO.

    I like the min-level idea if you really don't want people burning them in heroics. Min-level 20, exclusive, BTC. Charge as much as an XP tome.
    Make them not bankable to prevent that type of anti-exclusive shenanigans.
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    make them min level 20

    Make them BTC and exclusive ( you can only have one)
    Make them destroyed on TR.

    Make it so that if you choose to put the xp into the gem, you get no xp from that quest on your character while using the gem.



    This would allow you to play the quest in your best epic destiny while getting xp for another destiny so that you can work on more fate points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh_Troll View Post
    My latest whacky idea . . .
    Yes it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolo_Grubb View Post
    make them min level 20

    Make them BTC and exclusive ( you can only have one)
    Make them destroyed on TR.

    Make it so that if you choose to put the xp into the gem, you get no xp from that quest on your character while using the gem.



    This would allow you to play the quest in your best epic destiny while getting xp for another destiny so that you can work on more fate points.
    Why destroyed on TR? How about emptied on a TR instead. Replacing the item should not be neccessary. Also make them not bankable so they can't get around the exclusive part as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh_Troll View Post
    My latest whacky idea . . . we know turbine has the tech to max those little XP gems we get from daily dice rolls.

    Why not sell "empty" ones that we can fill with XP by earning XP in quests? .
    This is a good idea, therefore it is a complete failure of trollishness. For shame. Keep this up and your reputation might be tarnished.
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