Kensei Warpriest for new players (Human 12/8 Fighter/Cleric)

[Choopak]

THANKS!!! where's the + rep button??? seriously, i 'm happy now, i'll restart my leveling process (double TR take so longggg)
Can't wait to be 20 and swing my ESoS with this build... intend to go all the way to level 28!
Again, thanks for your time helping me (and most likely others)

Waterworks beware!!!

[Panzermeyer]

The enhancement works correctly, it's the free feat at level 6 (for clerics and pallies) that is bugged in the way you describe.

Ah ok. This is great to know.

[Mithrenes]

I didn't see this pointed out, but note that doing this build in any race other than Human (I'm Half-Orc for example), the -1 Feat problem actually solves itself (you don't qualify for the Dragonmark of Passage). The bigger problem I experience is having less skill points.

[Choopak]

I didn't see this pointed out, but note that doing this build in any race other than Human (I'm Half-Orc for example), the -1 Feat problem actually solves itself (you don't qualify for the Dragonmark of Passage). The bigger problem I experience is having less skill points.

I use only heal, concentration and jump... so the skill problem is not a big issue...

I realize today, running catacomb, that i have turn undead... Any "better" use for our turn undead than this? You use to be able to use turn undead to power smites, healing and even get some mana back... any of this in U19?

[Choopak]

I didn't see this pointed out, but note that doing this build in any race other than Human (I'm Half-Orc for example), the -1 Feat problem actually solves itself (you don't qualify for the Dragonmark of Passage). The bigger problem I experience is having less skill points.

Ya my friend is running this build on an H-orc and it works fine:
More STR, STR enhancements, THF bonus, and more damage when you get hit... overall a solid choice!
Human does have more healing amp, and the dragonmarks...

[EllisDee37]

I realize today, running catacomb, that i have turn undead... Any "better" use for our turn undead than this? You use to be able to use turn undead to power smites, healing and even get some mana back... any of this in U19?

Pretty much zero use for the turns.

If you decide to invest in the radiant servant tree you can get burst, which is powered by turns. That was the original idea when I first rolled this up, but the enhancement pass makes it very expensive to make your turns regenerate. Without regenerating turns I made the decision to deprecate turns completely, thus nothing uses them and they don't recharge over time.

[Choopak]

Pretty much zero use for the turns.

If you decide to invest in the radiant servant tree you can get burst, which is powered by turns. That was the original idea when I first rolled this up, but the enhancement pass makes it very expensive to make your turns regenerate. Without regenerating turns I made the decision to deprecate turns completely, thus nothing uses them and they don't recharge over time.

Ya... still looking into this, so far i follow your last spec, but changed 1 thing: i took action surge STR (twice, for a +2 STR whenever i use a boost) instead of rank 2-3 of dragonmark focus (5 use of dragon mark is enough)
Also if you go all the way to Tier 4 in human... grab teleport! it's an awesome spell, super useful, and it's the only way you gonna get it! (since your UMD won't be high enough to scroll it)
One more thing, i intend to take altruism (3 ranks) in radiant servant, +3 concentration, +3 heal, + diplomacy, and +30 positive power power seems good...

BTW: level 6 now, build rocks! i did what you suggest and went more cleric, so 3/3 now!

[Vellrad]

Ya... still looking into this, so far i follow your last spec, but changed 1 thing: i took action surge STR (twice, for a +2 STR whenever i use a boost) instead of rank 2-3 of dragonmark focus (5 use of dragon mark is enough)
Also if you go all the way to Tier 4 in human... grab teleport! it's an awesome spell, super useful, and it's the only way you gonna get it! (since your UMD won't be high enough to scroll it)
One more thing, i intend to take altruism (3 ranks) in radiant servant, +3 concentration, +3 heal, + diplomacy, and +30 positive power power seems good...

BTW: level 6 now, build rocks! i did what you suggest and went more cleric, so 3/3 now!

Altruism is not +30 spellpower alone.

its +1 heal per rank, and +10 positive at 3rd rank (13 total).

[EllisDee37]

Also if you go all the way to Tier 4 in human... grab teleport! it's an awesome spell, super useful, and it's the only way you gonna get it! (since your UMD won't be high enough to scroll it)

I can start scrolling teleport with reasonable success at 11 when I equip greensteel:

7 ranks
7 cha (14 base +6 item +2 tome +2 ship = 24 cha)
4 GH
4 human vers: skill boost
3 persuasion (ring swap)
6 greensteel cha skills
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31 umd (80% success)

[unbongwah]

I can start scrolling teleport with reasonable success at 11 when I equip greensteel:

While that's true, it's probably not realistic to expect new players to have their GS by lvl 11.

[EllisDee37]

While that's true, it's probably not realistic to expect new players to have their GS by lvl 11.

I was replying to a second life TR.

[Choopak]

Altruism is not +30 spellpower alone.

its +1 heal per rank, and +10 positive at 3rd rank (13 total).

Hooo misread this, not as tempting with only + 10 positive spell power...

And for teleport... even with my GS item... it's gonna be a stretch... but i'll try it, i have faith

Thanks again

[Vellrad]

And for teleport... even with my GS item... it's gonna be a stretch... but i'll try it, i have faith

Until your UMD is high enough, invest AP to teleport, afterwards, reset AP.

[Choopak]

Until your UMD is high enough, invest AP to teleport, afterwards, reset AP.

Good advice! will do

[Choopak]

1 sec, my leveling plan changed after a Mabar tome made my str odd. Here's what I currently have on live:

Human (24 AP) - 12 more AP compared to OP
Core: Human Versatility: Damage Boost
Core: Human Adaptability: Strength
Core: Human Versatility: Skills Boost
Core: Greater Adaptability: Constitution
Tier 1: Improved Recovery
Tier 1: Orien Dragonmark Focus III
Tier 2: Lesser Dragonmark of Passage
Tier 2: Fighting Style: Great Weapon Aptitude III
Tier 3: Heroism
Tier 3: Improved Recovery
Tier 4: Improved Recovery
Tier 4: Greater Heroism

I respec my enhancement to focus more on 1 group (instead of being spread out) and realize that you AP count is wrong in the Human tree: you wrote 24 AP spend, but in reality it's 27 AP ... not a big deal, just raised the question: what to drop? I can live w/o skill boost and greater human adaptability OR skill boost and 3rd rank of great weapon fighting style...
Alternately, you can chop up some AP in warpriest or kensai (doubtful) if you prefer.
I played with those enhancements so much, i know how much AP they cost from memory now, lol!
Cheers!

[EllisDee37]

I respec my enhancement to focus more on 1 group (instead of being spread out) and realize that you AP count is wrong in the Human tree: you wrote 24 AP spend, but in reality it's 27 AP

It's 24. Great Weapon Aptitude is 1 AP per rank, not 2.



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[unbongwah]

Quick question: does Ameliorating Strike also proc on doublestrikes?

[Choopak]

It's 24. Great Weapon Aptitude is 1 AP per rank, not 2.



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Apologies good sir...

[EllisDee37]

Quick question: does Ameliorating Strike also proc on doublestrikes?

It does.

It also double strikes every time if you're TWF, once for mainhand and once for offhand. Well, 80% of the time, assuming GTWF. That's an unfortunate non-synergy with this build, but worth mentioning. It can then doublestrike for a quadruple hit, I believe.

I definitely notice it when it double strikes, since it heals for twice as much. Hard to miss that.

[unbongwah]

Cool, had a few ideas for S&B Warpriest / Defender builds which double-striking Ameliorating Strikes would definitely help.