Fist of the Forest (Druid/Monk Wolf Form - MAX Unarmed damage) Need Help with build

[Failedlegend]

The only question is how the shintao d6 to d8 increase is coded, it could potentially be used/exploited to give a winter wolf a d12 as a base instead but no one has tested this yet to my knowledge.

Since Lama is up and I could care less about the new cleric stuff (beyond assuring my cleric friend it looked cool) I'm trying out a few builds (i wish turbine would just leave the test server up) I'll see how empty hand mastery affects the winter wolf damage

...but only while wielding handwraps. That's good to know also.

Not that you'd ever take your handwraps off.

[ice584]

Not that you'd ever take your handwraps off.

Yeah, I'm just trying to look at lots of different options. With druid you essentially get to use a shield for free while in a form so I'm trying to consider the benefits and drawbacks of using sword-and-board, handwraps, or two-handed weapons. Every bit of info helps.

Thanks.

[Failedlegend]

Yeah, I'm just trying to look at lots of different options. With druid you essentially get to use a shield for free while in a form so I'm trying to consider the benefits and drawbacks of using sword-and-board, handwraps, or two-handed weapons. Every bit of info helps.

Thanks.

Oh srry tis a Druid/Monk build so i didn't even think of shields.

[Charononus]

Oh srry tis a Druid/Monk build so i didn't even think of shields.

cause it would uncenter you and you'd lose wis to ac and and since block isn't increased by a shield when in form there would be no point to it.

[Failedlegend]

cause it would uncenter you and you'd lose wis to ac and and since block isn't increased by a shield when in form there would be no point to it.

Heh, Yeah I know that why I didn't think of it :P

Ice is talking about Druids in general not this build specifically I didn't realize that when I said "Not that you'd ever take your handwraps off"

[Charononus]

Yeah I know that why I didn't think of it :P

Ice is talking about Druids in general not this build specifically

waking up, aparently my brain needs more time to warm up still.

[Failedlegend]

waking up, aparently my brain needs more time to warm up still.

Heh, no worries

[Failedlegend]

Well I finally finished it of course the bugs with ninja spy not working with claws is a massive PITA so I might go Path of Light for now but once those are fixed up to work with all centered slashing and piercing weapons (again see wolf and bear claws) instead of a small handful I'll switch to dark other than that everything else works just fine


Lawful Neutral Halfling Druid9/Monk9/Fighter2

Str 13
Dex 16
Con 11
Int 8
Wis 18 (Lvl ups here)
Cha 8

Level Order: Druid1-2, Monk 3-5, Druid 5-12, Fighter 13-14, Monk 15 -20

Skills: Concen, Diplomacy, Balance

1 Power Attack
2D Wolf Form
3 Cleave
3M Weapon Finesse
4M Stunning Fist
5M Path of Light
6 Empowered Healing
8D Bear Form
9 Dodge
11D Winter Wolf
12 Nat 1
13F IC:Bludgeon
14F Great Cleave
15 Nat 2
17M Toughness
18 Master of Forms
ED GMoF
21 Grand Master of Forms
24 Nat 3
26 Epic Mage Armor
27 Blinding Speed
28 Tactician

[whomhead]

Isn't OWC bugged and does nothing for Unarmed?

This is the first I've ever heard of such a bug. Do you mean specifically for unarmed in wolf form, or unarmed in general? I realize this post is months old, but even in the current version of the build you didn't take OC. If it does work, and your goal is max unarmed damage, then OC would pretty much have to be included, no?

[emptysands]

Wis 18 (Lvl ups here)

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21 Grand Master of Forms
24 Nat 3
26 Epic Mage Armor
27 Blinding Speed
28 Mass Frog

WIS base for tactics? Why not take Tactician? Switch Toughness for Improved Sunder?

Probably hard on a halfing build, but I think losing OC hurts a lot on a drunk given the high base damage.

I've got an old build:

• HE: 1 monk, 2 Druid, 3 Monk, 4-11 Druid, 12-13 Fighter, 14-20 Monk
• 36pt: 16/14/16/8/16/8
• 1. Toughness, Power Attack; 3. Cleave, Stunning Fist; 6. Maximise; 9. Quicken (could be PL: Monk or Improved Sunder);
• 12f. Natural Fighting, IC: B; 13f. Great Cleave 15. Natural Fighting; 17m. Dodge; 18. Natural Fighting; 21. OC ;
• 24. PL: Monk or Improved Sunder or Precision

Looks like my best option for a rebuild is:

• 1+m. Cleave, Power Attack; 3+m. Empower Healing , TWF; 6. Great Cleave (BAB4); 9. ITWF (BAB6/DEX17);
• 12+f. Natural Fighting, IC:B (BAB8); 15+f. Natural Fighting, GTWF; 17m Stunning Fist; 18 Natural Fighting
• 21. OC; 24. Master of Forms; 27 Blinding Speed or Epic Damage Reduction or Epic Reflex .
• ED26 PTWF ; ED28 Holy Strike or Tactician or ?
• Need to move 13f to 15f for BAB11/GTWF,
• And switch to 36pt: 15/15/16/8/16/8 for DEX17 by lvl 9.

This option requires a LR+2 to move the fighter level from 13 to 15 for GTWF/BAB11.

[niehues]

Since Lama is up and I could care less about the new cleric stuff (beyond assuring my cleric friend it looked cool) I'm trying out a few builds (i wish turbine would just leave the test server up) I'll see how empty hand mastery affects the winter wolf damage



Not that you'd ever take your handwraps off.

Am I the only one that think u could use a kama or shortsword on a off hand and benefit from some other "cheap" stuff lets say a Celestia for Ex.. or in my case a +8 seeker of vertigo with a red slot (with heal booster)

so the question is.. does the increment of the W only work with wraps or does it work with kamas or short swords also..

At the moment i use a celestia on the main and that weap mention b4 as a second hand centered.. .. would like to know if the W increase or it takes the W of the weap base.. ( i know that the critical range does change to 15% from druid wolf form tho)

I have always consider that even though u use kamas or shortswords it would gain benefits from the monk W increase..


some clarification here would be nice.. ( as on live if u go to wolf form with a kama on hand it shows the kama base stuff even though i know the crit treat changes.. so its a visual "bug" )

[Nodoze]

Well I finally finished it of course the bugs with ninja spy not working with claws is a massive PITA so I might go Path of Light for now but once those are fixed up to work with all centered slashing and piercing weapons (again see wolf and bear claws) instead of a small handful I'll switch to dark other than that everything else works just fine


Lawful Neutral Halfling Druid9/Monk9/Fighter2

Str 13
Dex 16
Con 11
Int 8
Wis 18 (Lvl ups here)
Cha 8

Level Order: Druid1-2, Monk 3-5, Druid 5-12, Fighter 13-14, Monk 15 -20

Skills: Concen, Diplomacy, Balance

1 Power Attack
2D Wolf Form
3 Cleave
3M Weapon Finesse
4M Stunning Fist
5M Path of Light
6 Empowered Healing
8D Bear Form
9 Dodge
11D Winter Wolf
12 Nat 1
13F IC:Bludgeon
14F Great Cleave
15 Nat 2
17M Toughness
18 Master of Forms
ED GMoF
21 Grand Master of Forms
24 Nat 3
26 Epic Mage Armor
27 Blinding Speed
28 Mass Frog

Hey! I enjoyed running in game with you on my Blade Forged.

I could see you putting out strong DPS but is also appeared you were giving everyone AoE heals and it was great.

How were you putting out all that AoE healing?

For awhile there I thought you were doing TWF Ameliorating Strikes with Handwraps.

Were those mass cures or a combo of something else?