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    Default PM Animate Ally works as rezz rather than animate zombie, WAI?

    Just wondering if Animate Ally working as a rezz rather than raising another player as a zombie is working as intended. I can animate a hireling, which is funny, but, so far, not a fellow player.

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    It's bugged on player characters and does not work WAI, this is in the known issues of DDO's current bugs.
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    Not that it really matters since the players dies shortly after being raised making it pointless (as if being a zombie is a big enough penalty)
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    I hope they can fix it because it's a fantastic idea (provided dying as a player zombie doesn't constitute an extra death).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meru_Lee View Post
    It's bugged on player characters and does not work WAI, this is in the known issues of DDO's current bugs.
    Ah, right, I haven't kept up with that thesis of a list.


    Quote Originally Posted by Failedlegend View Post
    Not that it really matters since the players dies shortly after being raised making it pointless (as if being a zombie is a big enough penalty)
    While I've only seen it on a hireling the death aura was able to keep it healed.

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    Hey guys,

    As of Update 19 patch 2, this now works correctly as intended.

    An animated ally will come back, full health, in zombie mode. They will start incurring escalating levels of damage. From my experiments with teammates, realistically you won't last longer than 4 minutes or so. (Our group is a bunch of Pale Masters healing each other, so we can heal our animated zombie ally).

    The same is true for hirelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogzOfWar View Post
    Hey guys,

    As of Update 19 patch 2, this now works correctly as intended.

    An animated ally will come back, full health, in zombie mode. They will start incurring escalating levels of damage. From my experiments with teammates, realistically you won't last longer than 4 minutes or so. (Our group is a bunch of Pale Masters healing each other, so we can heal our animated zombie ally).

    The same is true for hirelings.
    Can an animated PM just change to vamp/wraith/lich?

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    Animate ally raises them with full health and gives them a debuff called rotting or something like that. What that debuff does is every frew seconds you take damage and it adds a stack of its self. The more stacks you have the more damage you take. You also heal from negative energy, so If you stay in the PM's aura, you will heal just as fast as him. During the Mabar preview I had a chance to test it and it got my acrobat to 45 stacks before the damage got high enough that the aura would not sustain me through it. I think the damage increments every six seconds but I am not 100% sure on that so don't quote me on it.

    I was able to leave the aura to kill things briefly and then return to get healed back up, and doing this allowed me to stay alive for quite some time. I imagine if your party had a palemaster and a negatively aligned divine disciple, then a animated ally could stay active for quite a long time before the damage was to great to sustain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinusWyllt View Post
    Can an animated PM just change to vamp/wraith/lich?
    Hi MartinusWyllt,
    A Pale Master will come back with their previous form still going (such as vamp/wraith/lich), in addition to being a zombie. It's a bit strange. So you'll have the upsides and downsides of both forms after being animated. We haven't done enough testing to see how all that works out.


    Quote Originally Posted by Havok.cry View Post
    Animate ally raises them with full health and gives them a debuff called rotting or something like that. What that debuff does is every frew seconds you take damage and it adds a stack of its self. The more stacks you have the more damage you take. You also heal from negative energy, so If you stay in the PM's aura, you will heal just as fast as him. During the Mabar preview I had a chance to test it and it got my acrobat to 45 stacks before the damage got high enough that the aura would not sustain me through it. I think the damage increments every six seconds but I am not 100% sure on that so don't quote me on it.

    I was able to leave the aura to kill things briefly and then return to get healed back up, and doing this allowed me to stay alive for quite some time. I imagine if your party had a palemaster and a negatively aligned divine disciple, then a animated ally could stay active for quite a long time before the damage was to great to sustain.
    We have a group of 5-6 Pale Masters that play together every week. We did one extensive test, letting an ally die, and then animating him. At first, the "victim" would incur about 5-10 damage every few seconds. After about 4 minutes, the victim was incurring 150+ damage every few seconds. We all had our auras on (and the victim has his on as well). The problem we saw is that if the victim strayed too far from the auras, the damage could really take them out.

    Another interesting note: You can't use a rest shrine after you've been animated. Well, you can try, but the damage you incur from the rotting will interrupt you.

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    Has anyone figured out what kind of damage the rotting is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Failedlegend View Post
    Has anyone figured out what kind of damage the rotting is?
    Hey FailedLegend,

    I actually just wrote up a wiki page (my first!) on Animate Ally at http://ddowiki.com/page/Animate_Ally

    I didn't measure exact numbers, but it starts off at around 5-10hp every few seconds. After 4 minutes, the damage is hard-core, at 125+. I have trouble believing anyone could survive more than 5 minutes or so.

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