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    Lightbulb Theorybuild - The Avenging Angel

    Theorybuild - The Avenging Angel v1.1 - U19

    "To Decimate, To Destroy, To Devastate - To Exterminate, To Eliminate, To Eradicate"

    Overview
    The historical Solar & Divine Phoenix builds have always had an impact on me, and with the new Kensai enhancements providing access to centered weaponry for any monk willing to go that route, I wanted to put together a fun new Theorybuild that could accomplish some great Damage & Self-sufficiency for EN/EH content but then change and grow into a EE capable character through later progression (read: Gear!).

    Thus, I've mutated my Dark Inquisitor into the following new U19 enhancement flavoured build.

    Despite many attempts to try a build that utilised TWF, I could never achieve the DPS output that I wanted to give the build, until I sucked it up and went the centered Monk route with Heavy Blades. Then, THEN, the build finally opened up and started giving out the kind of numbers I wanted to see.

    I've added on surety to the build in the form of Crowd Control and also tried to ensure the defensive side is covered as well. This will scale into EE through Fury of the Wild, but provide solid Stunning Blow for EN/EH as well.

    Finally, I've now split this into two distinct builds - a Air Stance flavoured version for running EN/EH content, and then an easy-to-adapt too Earth Stance EE version should you choose to step up to the increasingly difficult content.

    As always, this is a template for you to adapt and implement your build around, including your level/class choices along the way.

    Main Goals
    - Devastating THF Damage Potential
    - High speed strike rate & Doublestrike potential
    - Crowd Control
    - High Dodge, Saves & Evasion
    - Self Healing & Healing Amplification
    - EE Viability through adaptation

    Credits
    Some credits are due here, for original builds that have given rise to my own theory build.
    SolarDawning: Solar Phoenix
    Whomhead: Divine Phoenix 2.0 & Divine Phoenix 1.0
    Carpone: U19 Kensai Cleaver Monk

    Core Build
    Human
    - Additional Feat & Skill Point

    Fighter 8
    - 5 Bonus Feats

    Paladin 6
    - Divine Grace
    - SP Pool & Meta-Magic Access

    Monk 6
    - 3 Bonus Feats
    - Evasion
    - Adept of Forms
    - Buy access to Grandmaster Forms

    Kensai / Knight of the Chalice / Human / Nina-Spy Enhancements
    - Centered access to Heavy Blades through Kensai
    - Divine Might Insight bonus to Strength
    - Exalted Smite Evil Tier 3
    - Vigor of Life & Improved Recovery Healing Amp
    - Kensai Haste Boost

    Fury of the Wild Epic Destiny
    - No-DC Crowd Control through Overwhelming Force
    - Large DPS Increases to baseline THF Damage
    - Massive DPS Boost to Exalted Smites via Adrenaline

    Character Build
    - 36pt Human, 3 Fighter Past Lives
    Str: 18 Base, 60 with Gear/Tomes/Ship/Self Buffs
    Dex: 12 Base, 34 with Gear/Tomes/Ship/Self Buffs
    Con: 14 Base, 36 with Gear/Tomes/Ship/Self Buffs
    Int: 08 Base, 14 with Gear/Tomes/Ship/Self Buffs
    Wis: 12 Base, 30 with Gear/Tomes/Ship/Self Buffs
    Cha: 14 Base, 34 with Gear/Tomes/Ship/Self Buffs

    Strength Potential
    18 Base +7Lvl +4Tome +10Item +12Insight(DM) +1Racial +1Exc +5Rage +2Ship
    = 60 Str

    Heroic Feats
    7 Standard, 5 Fighter Bonus, 3 Monk Bonus, 1 Human = 16 Feats
    - THF, ITHF, GTHF
    - Power Attack, Cleave, Great Cleave, IC: Slash
    - WF: Slash, WS: Slash, GWF: Slash
    - Stunning Blows, Improved Sunder, Master of Forms, Grandmaster of Forms
    - Dodge, Empower Heal

    Epic Feats
    - Overwhelming Critical, Quicken, Blinding Speed*
    - Perfect THF, Tactician

    * Despite being in GM Air stance primarily, taking this gives you stance flexibility - maybe you need to swap into GM Water for a moment or two while you deal with some nasty casters? It's also still there for an eventual 'upgrade path' to the EE version of the build.

    Enhancements
    Kensai - 33pts
    C WF: Heavy Blades, Spiritual Bond, Strike with No Thought
    1 WS: Heavy Blades, Haste Boost 3, Extra Action Boost 3
    2 WS: Heavy Blades, Kensai Tactics 3, Weapon Meditation
    3 WS: Heavy Blades, Shattering Strike 2
    4 WS: Heavy Blades
    5 Keen Edge, Deadly Strike, One with Blade

    Knight of the Chalice - 25pts
    C Hunter of the Dead 1, Courage of Heaven 1
    1 Extra Smite 2, Extra Turning 3
    2 Extra Smite 2, Divine Might 3
    3 Exalted Smite 3, Vigor of Life 1
    4 Vigor of Life 1

    Human - 11pts
    C AB: Damage, Strength
    1 Improved Recovery 1
    2 THF Fighting Style 3

    Ninja Spy - 11pts
    C Ninja Training 1, Ninja Training 2, Shadow Veil
    1 Sneak Attack Training, Acrobatic 3
    2 Sneak Attack Training, Agility 1

    Fury of the Wild
    1 Primal Scream 3, Tunnel Vision 3
    2 Acute Senses 3
    3 Malicious Weapons 3
    4 Sense Weakness 3, Overwhelming Force 3, Wild Weapons 2
    5 Fury Eternal
    6 Unbridled Fury

    Destiny Twists
    1 Dance of Flowers - GMoF Tier 1
    2 Legendary Tactics - LD Tier 1
    3 Rejuvenation Cocoon - PA Tier 1

    Offensive Potential - Grandmaster of Air & Breach, Dividing Blade
    Two Handed Fighting - Speed Overview
    - Grandmaster Air Stance for Permanent Haste
    - 30% Kensai Haste Boost & 20% Human Damage Boost Dual Boosting
    - 8 Action Boosts per rest

    Potential Doublestrike
    10% Grandmaster Air Stance
    06% Doublestrike Item
    03% Artifact: Flawless Black Dragonscale
    01% Enh: Strike with No Thought
    = 20% Doublestrike

    Two Handed Fighting - Damage Overview
    - Full GTHF Line
    - Full Human Enhancments to THF
    - Perfect THF Feat
    - FotW Destiny: Malicious Weapons 3, Wild Weapons 2
    - 66% Glancing Blow Damage
    - 34% Weapon Effects Proc

    Crowd Control Overview
    - No Save 10s Crowd Control with Overwhelming Force
    - DC65 Stunning Blow with +3DC Improved Sunder Leader
    Potential Stunning Blow
    10 Base
    25 Strength
    10 Stunning item
    06 Exceptional Combat Tactics
    03 Enh: Kensai Tactics
    06 LD: Legendary Tactics
    03 Past Life: Fighter
    02 ED Feat: Tactician
    = 65DC

    Potential Damage - Breach, Dividing Blade

    Two Handed Fighting - Base Damage with Breach
    28 Breach Avg Damage = 2.5[2D6] + 1.5[W] Dance of Flowers
    08 Magic Weapon
    10 Weapon Bond
    37 Strength (Strength 60)
    10 Power Attack
    06 Kensai Enhancements
    02 WS: Slash
    10 Deadly Item
    04 Artifact
    06 FotW Innates
    = 121 Damage Per swing, +66% Glancing Blows (3 in 4) = 180 Per Swing Avg

    Two Handed Fighting - Adrenaline Exalted Smite Critical Damage with Breach
    121 Base Damage
    025 Smite Evil Damage (Paladin Level 6)
    010 Seeker +10 Item
    005 Exc Seeker +5 item
    = 166 Damage
    x4 Adrenaline Multipler
    = 644 Damage
    x2 Base Crit
    +2 Exalted Smite Crit
    = 2,576 Damage

    'Perfect' Smite Evil on a natural 19/20 with Breach
    644 Base Damage
    x2 Breach Base Crit
    +2 Exalted Smite Crit
    +1 Overwhelming Critical
    = 3,220 Damage

    'Stars Aligned' Potential (Max Base Damage on Breach, natural 19/20)
    = 141 Base Damage per swing, 181 after Smite/Seeker Effects, 724 with Adrenaline
    x5 Critical
    = 3,620 Damage

    Hmm, there's something kind of satisfying when you have to use comma's in your weapon damage calculations!

    I'd also like to see the screenshot that beats this 'stars aligned' damage with this build through buffs or other +damage that I've missed off....
    Last edited by Arlathen; 09-06-2013 at 05:47 AM. Reason: Build v1.1
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    Default And for the rest....

    Defensive Potential

    Saves
    Ft/Rf/Wl
    06/02/02 Fighter 8
    05/02/02 Paladin 6
    05/05/05 Monk 6
    04/04/04 Epic Levels
    13/11/10 Con/Dex/Wis
    12/12/12 Charisma
    08/08/08 Resistance Item / Aug
    04/04/04 Insight
    00/02/00 Ninaj-Spy Agility
    02/02/02 Good Luck
    01/01/01 Resistance Ritual
    01/01/01 Aura of Good
    04/04/04 Greater Heroism (Self Buff!)
    = 64/58/55 Saves + Evasion

    PRR - Grandmaster Air
    015 Planar Focus of Prowess
    016 Blue Augment
    = 31 PRR, 17% Physical Resistance

    Dodge
    06% Monk 6
    03% Dodge Feat
    10% Item
    03% Acrobatic
    = 22% Dodge

    Incorporeal
    25% Shadow Veil

    Hit Points
    040 Base
    364 Constitution Bonus @28
    080 Fighter 8
    060 Paladin 6
    048 Monk 6
    080 Epic Levels
    100 Fury of the Wild
    010 Draconic Feat
    045 Greensteel HP Item
    020 Vitality Item
    040 Enhancement Item
    = 887 HP

    Healing Amp
    1.00 Base
    1.10 Human Improved Recovery
    1.20 Paladin Vigor of Life
    1.30 Item (PDK Gloves)
    1.20 Item (Convalescent Bracers)
    1.10 Guild ship buff
    = 227% Healing Amplification
    = +2 / +4 Fists of Light Self-Healing

    Devotion
    023 Heal Skill Ranks
    015 Heal Skill Item / Aug
    008 Epic Skills
    004 Skill Tome
    010 Wisdom Bonus (30)
    138 Devotion Item
    030 Implement Bonus
    075 Empower Healing
    = 303%

    Rejuvenation Cocoon
    = 5D6 Base * 3.03 * 2.27 = 120 Avg Tick
    Last edited by Arlathen; 09-05-2013 at 09:53 AM. Reason: Build v1.1
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    Default And the Gear...

    Changing the Build into Epic Elite Mode

    Perhaps most significantly, after some of great feedback I've received in this thread so far, is the potential to mutate the build into a EE version of the build gaining significant defensive advantages as well as potentially improving DPS.

    You can make a simple change in the form of the following enhancements:

    Monk Stance: Change to Grandmaster Earth stance from Air Stance.

    Kensai Enhancements
    2 - Change Kensai Tactics 3 to Improved Dodge 3,

    Destiny Twists
    1 Standing with Stone
    2 Rejuvenation Cocoon
    3 Dance of Flowers

    Net Results
    +1 Crit Multiplier on natural 19-20
    -10% Doublestrike
    +6 Con = +84 HP, +3 Fort Saves, -3 Reflex Saves (loss of Dex)
    +15 PRR from Stance, +15 PRR from Twist, reaching 61 PRR and 30% Damage Reduction
    +3% Dodge, thus and reaching 25% Max Dodge

    Moar HP!
    If you truly want to dedicate the character to the most difficult content and running EEs without the Stunning Blow and Improved Sunder options, then it could well worth respeccing the feats of the character. Instead of the two Heroic feats, take a pair of Toughness feats instead, swap Quicken in the epic levels to Epic Toughness and also choose to take Guardian Angel instead of Tactician as the final Epic Destiny feat. You'll need to drop two level up points into Con with a +4 Con Tome to achieve this.

    That will however, net you a massive additional +104HP as well as a strong Defensive buff when you dip under 50% HP, and in total will inflate your HP to 1,075HP.

    Yummy.

    Do you go ahead and use an ESOS??..

    Potentially. If you have one, then try it out. Its a net loss of PRR and +4 Artifact Damage from loss of the Planar Focus set, but it does gains with an additional +1 Crit Multiplier over Breach which along with GM Earth stance makes 'Perfect' or 'Stars Aligned' Smite Evil Adfrenaline Strikes super-smash-tastic fun numbers. Previous calculations put the 'Stars aligned' ESOS number at around 5.5K damage.

    Equipment Layout

    Still working on this, and to come. Breach and a Planar Focus are pretty obvious, as well as methods of achieving the necessary Seeker/Exceptional Seeker and Artificact Doublestrike (Flawless Blackscale Robe). Most of the requirements in gear should stand out, but I'll puzzle this out later on.
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    I'm leveling a 10 paladin/8 Fighter/2 monk variant of this, and its going to be awesome.

    But a few problems with this. I count at least 6 twists you have listed in your stat calculations. Your using overlapping gear items to calculate statistics as well(healing amp and artifact bonus). And the use of Earth and Air stance to calculate critical and double strike statistics.

    I also noticed that for your "Stars Aligned" at the bottom, you bumped up your base damage from 120 to 149, and you added in 40 seeker to your base damage, which is way too high. Seeing as you only have +10 and +5 exc in your math.

    And where is the 25 damage coming from with Smite Evil? It should only be 6 as your only 6 Paladin.

    Also the eSoS is 2.5[2d6] with a base damage of 35.75.

    Without seeing the actual gear layout and how your getting your stats, it is hard to make other comments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Takllin View Post
    I'm leveling a 10 paladin/8 Fighter/2 monk variant of this, and its going to be awesome.
    Mmh, I hope so. I'm levelling a pretty fresh TR through. Will take me a few weeks to get up there, and I'm doing it a fairly painful way - won't be swinging a Greatsword/Falchion until 18, so Quarterstaves for me until then. And no Acrobat Alacrity bonus lol!

    Quote Originally Posted by Takllin View Post
    But a few problems with this. I count at least 6 twists you have listed in your stat calculations. Your using overlapping gear items to calculate statistics as well(healing amp and artifact bonus). And the use of Earth and Air stance to calculate critical and double strike statistics.
    Ok, yes, this is definitely a template build of possibilities from a particular Class-Split . Hence my 'Theorybuild' prerogative. Some players may go for GM Air, some may go GM Earth - depending on preference. My listing shows the upsides/downsides of each direction. Personally, my heart is saying go GM Air, my head is saying go GM Earth and get the **** PRR/Crit Multiplier. Time will tell.

    As for Twists, yes totally there's too many listed. Again, its something to experiment with at this stage, Rejuvenation Cocoon is pretty definite but the other two are 'up in the air' at this point. I'll think through it more when I get to my Epic Destiny.

    Quote Originally Posted by Takllin View Post
    And where is the 25 damage coming from with Smite Evil? It should only be 6 as your only 6 Paladin.
    I'll answer this question first as it directly relates to the 'Seeker' potential. Smite Evil damage bonus is calculated at 7+(3*Paladin Level), and is not just Paladin Level. Thus, 7+(3*6) = 25 Bonus Damage on Smite Evil attacks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Takllin View Post
    I also noticed that for your "Stars Aligned" at the bottom, you bumped up your base damage from 120 to 149, and you added in 40 seeker to your base damage, which is way too high. Seeing as you only have +10 and +5 exc in your math.
    Hence, since I'm only using my Exalted Smites to power my Adrenaline Strikes, I'm effectively adding +10 Seeker, +5 Exc Seeker and +25 Smite Damage to base damage before the Adrenaline Multiplier hits home and then the Crit Multiplier effect on top.

    Quote Originally Posted by Takllin View Post
    Also the eSoS is 2.5[2d6] with a base damage of 35.75.
    I'm centered, and with Dance of Flowers from GMoF and Improved Martial Arts Epic feat that 2.5[2D6] becomes 4.5[2D6], effectively 9D6 base damage or 31.5 Avg Damage per swing before any other modifiers. Ignore the Base Damage Rating on the weapon itself, it doesn't make sense when calculating Avg Damage per hit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Takllin View Post
    Without seeing the actual gear layout and how your getting your stats, it is hard to make other comments.
    Also true, but this will come with time and more thought.

    I do appreciate the feedback however, always keeps me honest!
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    In my case I plan to level a duo up from 15 with a PDK Cleric/Fighter (self-healing S&B Cleaving Initimi-Tank). I was thinking this build may be a good partner to duo with.

    In dungeon runs I plan to run the Tower-Shield Heavy Armor Battle Cleric in first to grab aggro and have the second character follow behind and pick off adds to mow down & then help with bosses.

    What changes & what starting classes would you recommend if I were to do this build with a 32 point PDK (essentially human) and be able to come out of the chute swinging at level 15 (have to start with Fighter1)?

    EDIT: Also, what Tomes are required for this build (any minimum dex, wisdom, etc)? I was originally planning on dropping up to a set of +3s if needed. Later, if I really like the build, I can look to add higher...

    EDIT2: What skills besides Heal do you consider must-haves for the build?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arlathen View Post
    Ok, yes, this is definitely a template build of possibilities from a particular Class-Split . Hence my 'Theorybuild' prerogative. Some players may go for GM Air, some may go GM Earth - depending on preference. My listing shows the upsides/downsides of each direction. Personally, my heart is saying go GM Air, my head is saying go GM Earth and get the **** PRR/Crit Multiplier. Time will tell.
    Yeah I'm going with Earth, because with air your losing +6 con, 15 PRR which is very important for EEs currently.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arlathen View Post
    As for Twists, yes totally there's too many listed. Again, its something to experiment with at this stage, Rejuvenation Cocoon is pretty definite but the other two are 'up in the air' at this point. I'll think through it more when I get to my Epic Destiny.
    Yeah I love Sense Weakness, and Dance of Flowers would obviously be needed as well, so that is three twists right there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arlathen View Post
    I'll answer this question first as it directly relates to the 'Seeker' potential. Smite Evil damage bonus is calculated at 7+(3*Paladin Level), and is not just Paladin Level. Thus, 7+(3*6) = 25 Bonus Damage on Smite Evil attacks.

    Hence, since I'm only using my Exalted Smites to power my Adrenaline Strikes, I'm effectively adding +10 Seeker, +5 Exc Seeker and +25 Smite Damage to base damage before the Adrenaline Multiplier hits home and then the Crit Multiplier effect on top.
    Ah okay, I misunderstood how Smite Evil damage was calculated, it is a bit misleading in the description ingame.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arlathen View Post
    I'm centered, and with Dance of Flowers from GMoF and Improved Martial Arts Epic feat that 2.5[2D6] becomes 4.5[2D6], effectively 9D6 base damage or 31.5 Avg Damage per swing before any other modifiers. Ignore the Base Damage Rating on the weapon itself, it doesn't make sense when calculating Avg Damage per hit.
    Ah okay. You need to have 12 levels of Monk for Improved Martial Arts though....

    Quote Originally Posted by Arlathen View Post
    Also true, but this will come with time and more thought.

    I do appreciate the feedback however, always keeps me honest!
    Thanks, and I am definitely going to keep up with these, I'm very interested in what your going to do with these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arlathen View Post
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    Potential Damage - Breach, Dividing Blade

    Two Handed Fighting - Base Damage with Breach
    28 Breach Avg Damage = 2.5[2D6] + 1.5[W] Dance of Flowers
    08 Magic Weapon
    10 Weapon Bond
    37 Strength (Strength 60)
    10 Power Attack
    06 Kensai Enhancements
    02 WS: Slash
    10 Deadly Item
    04 Artifact
    06 FotW Innates
    = 121 Damage Per swing, +66% Glancing Blows (3 in 4) = 180 Per Swing Avg

    Two Handed Fighting - Adrenaline Exalted Smite Critical Damage with Breach
    121 Base Damage
    025 Smite Evil Damage (Paladin Level 6)
    010 Seeker +10 Item
    005 Exc Seeker +5 item
    = 166 Damage
    x4 Adrenaline Multipler
    = 644 Damage
    x2 Base Crit
    +2 Exalted Smite Crit
    = 2,576 Damage

    'Perfect' Smite Evil on a natural 19/20 with Breach
    644 Base Damage
    x2 Breach Base Crit
    +2 Exalted Smite Crit
    +1 Overwhelming Critical
    = 3,220 Damage

    'Stars Aligned' Potential (Max Base Damage on Breach, natural 19/20)
    = 141 Base Damage per swing, 181 after Smite/Seeker Effects, 724 with Adrenaline
    x5 Critical
    = 3,620 Damage

    Hmm, there's something kind of satisfying when you have to use comma's in your weapon damage calculations!

    I'd also like to see the screenshot that beats this 'stars aligned' damage with this build through buffs or other +damage that I've missed off....
    I like the way you broke out the damage.

    What would an Adrenalized Exalted Smite look like with something like a +6 Holy Burst Great Axe of Superior Bloodletting (VI) (w Festival Icy Burst, Red Slotted+2d6 Elemental Damage) ?

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