Raid Completion Counters

[Iriale]

When you fix this, devs, let us see the completions in the patron diary, please please please. It will be more comfortable. The list of the /quest completions command is very uncomfortable to read

[Aviya]

When you fix this, devs, let us see the completions in the patron diary, please please please. It will be more comfortable. The list of the /quest completions command is very uncomfortable to read

Signed

[Mystera]

UPDATE
Epic runs that occurred between MOTU and Shadowfell should properly show in the Epic side of the count. This will not be corrected.

This is not correct. Not only are all my ADQ completions on epic and are now flagged as heroic, but I ran ADQ on Epic Hard tonight and it just logged it as another heroic run. In other words I have no way to get epic completions on the raid since it keeps logging it as heroic runs. Please fix this.

[Flavilandile]

No response yet from the developers? Unbelievable...

This is Turbine. Communication is... unreliable at best.

[NaturalHazard]

Well after getting my citw raid counter correctly set to 19 by a Gm I ran citw today and got my list of citw items. I didn't see a tome, but was very happy to get a pinion on the list.

[erbgorK]

Well after getting my citw raid counter correctly set to 19 by a Gm I ran citw today and got my list of citw items. I didn't see a tome, but was very happy to get a pinion on the list.

I ran my 20th citw today. I contacted a GM a few days ago who told me that if I would get a broken list, I could contact a GM and he would reset me to 19 completions and I could try again.

Well, when I contacted a GM after getting the list, he told me they would not do that anymore, and that I should submit a bug report (which I did, but doesn't really do anything for me).

I feel kinda screwed now. How long will I have to wait for a fix? Months? And will I still have to run it 20 times again?

Another question, could I not just abort the raid and then run again, get another shot at a correct 20th list?

[Eistander]

I'm in the same boat, however when I opened my ticket, I didn't get a notice of the canned response of it being a known issue. Closing in fast, I seriously don't want to sack the next 3 runs for nothing, especially when in-game support won't, you know, support us. I get that this is a "known issue" but seriously detrimental to say the least when we don't even know what the status is on this issue other than that they are aware of it.

[Lanadazia]

When you fix this, devs, let us see the completions in the patron diary, please please please. It will be more comfortable. The list of the /quest completions command is very uncomfortable to read

/signed

do this, or let us customize the /quest completions displayed quests.
i don't wanna see red fens completions in this list that is named RAID completions. ty!

[Arlannis]

/signed

do this, or let us customize the /quest completions displayed quests.
i don't wanna see red fens completions in this list that is named RAID completions. ty!

I agree that there's a lot of room for improvements to this whole concept. I'd like to see it presented in a graphic format, perhaps as part of the 'P' panel.

Failing that, I'd at least like to see it be called something less cumbersome to type than '/quest completions'.

OTOH, on the relative scale of "Things I'd like to see improved in DDO", this is probably not that high. Getting the counts right, yeah, that's fairly high.

[Hutoth]

Any update for those folks who have incorrect numbers for raids completed AFTER MOTU?

[Stoner81]

So are the GM's re-setting counters then or not?

Stoner81.

[MeliCat]

UPDATE: We have investigated the raid and quest completion counts and have identified the following regarding the counts:

- The number of heroic completion and epic completions for the Caught in the Web raid are both incorrectly showing as completions from Fall of Truth. We will address this error in an upcoming patch.
- Completions of Epic difficulty that occurred prior to Menace of the Underdark (Update 14) cannot be distinguished from heroic and are treated as heroic completions. You are most likely to experience this if you had played "epic" difficulty from the original Epic system back before the quest entrance UI was split into Epic/Heroic tabs, and Epic Character levels were introduced (suspects include: Vault of Night, Demon Queen, Chronoscope). Epic runs that occurred between MOTU and Shadowfell should properly show in the Epic side of the count. This will not be corrected.
- Completions of Epic difficulty non-raid quests that occurred prior to Update 19 Patch 1 are listed as heroic in the completion counts (e.g. Phiarlan Carnival). Completions after U19 Patch 1 will appear in the correct column. This will not be corrected.

We apologize for the confusion this causes to our raiders.

I'm sorry Tolero but I don't understand your post.

If I go /quests and see:
Against the Demon Queen : Heroic: 9 / Epic : 0

Does this mean that in order to get my 20th I now have to do 11 heroic DQs? That I can not do 11 epic DQs as the two won't add up? You haven't explicitly stated "Epic and Heroic completions are now two separate counts towards 20ths".

[MeliCat]

So are the GM's re-setting counters then or not?

Stoner81.

I would really like clarity on this. I have a guildie who got burnt. This whole situation makes me paranoid to run raids. I really count on those 20ths.

[Stoner81]

I would really like clarity on this. I have a guildie who got burnt. This whole situation makes me paranoid to run raids. I really count on those 20ths.

I have just had my CiTW counter reset to 35 Epic though it shows -35 Heroic but the GM said that this is just a graphics glitch and should sort itself out upon relogging in which I tried and it's still showing the same so it might need a full client restart or something. Either way I have my 35 Epic completions which is where I was before this whole stupid mess started, my advice is just be pleasant and polite with the GM's and they should help

Stoner81.

[SirValentine]

- The number of heroic completion and epic completions for the Caught in the Web raid are both incorrectly showing as completions from Fall of Truth. We will address this error in an upcoming patch.
- Completions of Epic difficulty non-raid quests that occurred prior to Update 19 Patch 1 are listed as heroic in the completion counts (e.g. Phiarlan Carnival). Completions after U19 Patch 1 will appear in the correct column. This will not be corrected.

Those two are, good, and don't care, respectively. However:

- Completions of Epic difficulty that occurred prior to Menace of the Underdark (Update 14) cannot be distinguished from heroic and are treated as heroic completions. You are most likely to experience this if you had played "epic" difficulty from the original Epic system back before the quest entrance UI was split into Epic/Heroic tabs, and Epic Character levels were introduced (suspects include: Vault of Night, Demon Queen, Chronoscope). Epic runs that occurred between MOTU and Shadowfell should properly show in the Epic side of the count. This will not be corrected.

Emphasis added.

Your assumption in BOLD RED is incorrect. Please rethink and give us an update on your BOLD CYAN statement, since it was based on that incorrect assumption. Any update on this issue would be greatly appreciated.

[erbgorK]

I have just had my CiTW counter reset to 35 Epic though it shows -35 Heroic but the GM said that this is just a graphics glitch and should sort itself out upon relogging in which I tried and it's still showing the same so it might need a full client restart or something. Either way I have my 35 Epic completions which is where I was before this whole stupid mess started, my advice is just be pleasant and polite with the GM's and they should help

Stoner81.

Wow are you serious? That would mean that in my last three tickets they chose to not do this even though on principle they do.

It's not like they could have made it worse for me. Thanks for nothing, honestly.

[Stoner81]

Wow are you serious?

Yes I am.

Stoner81.

[psykopeta]

everytime i see that thread in last posts can't avoid laughing

so my iconic toon, who never did an heroic raid (mainly because oh well, was over lvl in the heroic raids, that means no bb, in thelanis no bb = no run, unless it's shroud, maybe some difference with non existant abbot, ma, lob and titan) and has some completions!

yay!! he has heroic completions!! so only thinking in tolero's post...what was that? oh yea, that won't be corrected, ofc, they screw it and don't correct it, nice!

conclusion: every time i see that thread in last post can't avoid laughing, my iconic maybe did 1 epic raid each (hey even did some fot and citw raids at heroic lvl! ofc pre motu, ofc) but what about ppl with near 20th completions? or that guy with more than 200? with a total over 2k raid completions? poor guy got screwed, but hey, that won't be corrected

so, everytime i see that thread in last posts can't avoid laughing

btw, AT LEAST, quest completions shouldn't show stuff i didn't run even once (most stuff in that toon) because u know, i don't care about the completions of something I MORE THAN PROLLY KNOW, that i haven't run once (3bc stuff? really? amazing, think i ran it once when i was 20 for favor, never ran it again, with new xp changes there's no need to do so)

[Maelphistez]

Hello Tolero et al.,

I just wanted to pop into this thread that you started and haven't responded to in over 2 weeks. Why might you be interested in what I have to say? Well, normally this is about the time that I spend another ~$50 in order to buy Turbine Points while the bonus is going. This is the first bonus I have not even considered buying points in over two years. "Why?" you may ask? Because I have a character that I haven't played since the update since his Raid counters are completely borked. I don't want to run raids only to have the counters FURTHER borked in the future if you decide just maybe you'll fix this issue. This is one of my favorite raiding characters now pretty much permanently on the shelf. So.... Cliff Notes Version:

- No communication from Turbine in > two weeks over a problem that seriously affects me and others.

- No direction on if we should ask GMs to "fix" it for us or not.

- Loss of income to Turbine.

- Loss of interest in the game on my part.

What would you have us do Tolero et al.? Take it like a man? Just curious.

[Flavilandile]

This is Turbine. Communication is... unreliable at best.

So.... Cliff Notes Version:

- No communication from Turbine in > two weeks over a problem that seriously affects me and others.

- No direction on if we should ask GMs to "fix" it for us or not.

- Loss of income to Turbine.

- Loss of interest in the game on my part.

What would you have us do Tolero et al.? Take it like a man? Just curious.

1) See my own quote above in this thread.
2) according to what I've been able to gather there's two kind of GM : the ones that do fix the counters they can fix and the ones that just close the ticket without bothering.
3) definitely, a lot of people have stopped or heavily reduced their raiding because of this mess, and they won't resume it until it is fixed.
As they don't raid some go visit other games, and the longer Turbine takes to address the problem the lower the chances to see them back once it's fixed.
4) well you are not alone... I find myself spending more time playing Civ V or Colonization than before... I even update regularly SWTOR, something I hadn't done for a long time.