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    Question Insightful Damage worth anything for an XBow user?

    Im not sure if I am understanding it.
    It will use my INT mod for damage instead of what ?
    Is this just for melee or does it help on an Xbow ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by humbleroller View Post
    Im not sure if I am understanding it.
    It will use my INT mod for damage instead of what ?
    Is this just for melee or does it help on an Xbow ?
    It is the best thing since sliced bread, for crossbows.

    Crossbows don't get a damage modifier from a stat, usually. Add insightful damage and each bolt in the volley will do extra damage.

    It's amazing.

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    Insightful Dmg will work with any crossbow or 1H melee weapon. In the case of xbows, it replaces...nothing, since there is no stat bonus to xbow dmg normally. It also stacks with the <???> Weapons spells, so it's pretty much a must-have for any repeater-wielding arty.
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    okay thanks. Its his 2nd life as an arti and this is the first time ive even thought of it.

    Its a shame I cant have Insightful Strike on at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by humbleroller View Post
    okay thanks. Its his 2nd life as an arti and this is the first time ive even thought of it.

    Its a shame I cant have Insightful Strike on at the same time.
    Rogue splash to get int to damage then you also can use insightful strikes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamBraveheart View Post
    Rogue splash to get int to damage then you also can use insightful strikes.
    They stack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamBraveheart View Post
    Rogue splash to get int to damage then you also can use insightful strikes.
    INT to dmg from Mechanic is at rog lvl 6; I hardly call that a "splash." In particular, that means giving up two of your arty bonus feats and lvl 6 spells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    INT to dmg from Mechanic is at rog lvl 6; I hardly call that a "splash." In particular, that means giving up two of your arty bonus feats and lvl 6 spells.
    Probably why the Rogue/Arti Multis I've seen have always been the other way round!

    13 Rogue/7 Arti was a great build Pre-Shadowfell - I'm hearing not so good any more though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FranOhmsford View Post
    Probably why the Rogue/Arti Multis I've seen have always been the other way round!

    13 Rogue/7 Arti was a great build Pre-Shadowfell - I'm hearing not so good any more though.
    I wouldn't worry too much about insightful strikes - with a dex just barely enough for improved precise shot and the 'new' combat system I rarely miss with crossbows.

    The damage of insightful damage though? Can't live without it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eris2323 View Post
    I wouldn't worry too much about insightful strikes - with a dex just barely enough for improved precise shot and the 'new' combat system I rarely miss with crossbows.

    The damage of insightful damage though? Can't live without it.
    Yeah to-hit is an afterthought, there's so many ways to boost it that you wont need INT-to-hit.

    Besides, really, the difference between 19 DEX (for IPS) and 30-40 INT is only 5-10 points of to-hit. Not really worth taking 6 Rogue just to get +10 to-hit, is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by droid327 View Post
    Yeah to-hit is an afterthought, there's so many ways to boost it that you wont need INT-to-hit.

    Besides, really, the difference between 19 DEX (for IPS) and 30-40 INT is only 5-10 points of to-hit. Not really worth taking 6 Rogue just to get +10 to-hit, is it?
    you'll have to ask yourself if the ability to add int mod to xbow damage without needing to cast on every single one of your xbows is worth it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay203 View Post
    you'll have to ask yourself if the ability to add int mod to xbow damage without needing to cast on every single one of your xbows is worth it
    Swapping xbows is really only a midlevel heroic concern...by the time you're close to endgame, you probably just have 1 xbow you're using against everyone. A good named xbow can overcome the DPS advantage of target-specific lootgen xbows like Disruption.

    Swapping xbows means you cant use Attach Weapon, too.

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    Smart crossbow users use Insightful Damage.
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