SA while soloing...

[Laeelin]

I just made my first rogue (iconic, and mostly used the assassinate tree) just to get a 1 quest feel for the class. I was very surprised by how often I would get SA damage. I assumed that solo I would get SA damage only when I did a bluff or on the first attack.

Instead I picked up a lot of SA damage. For the first group I stealthed in and assassinated the first mob and it died. Then I started meleeing the next mob and got several lines of SA damage before it stopped and then I bluffed and had a couple more SA before it died. Then I turned on the last one and got multiple attacks with SA before it stopped working.

Is this normal, or was I getting lots of lucky dual wield and double strike attacks when opening up?

Do you normally get many SA attacks in while soloing even without bluff?

-Thanks

[skorpeon]

I did read somewhere about getting auto bluff during attacks on one of the enhancements, could that have been the effect you noticed?

[Laeelin]

... I forgot, you start off with the daggers Risk and Reward. They have a 5% chance of procing bluff. I assume that is what is going on then?

[Gizeh]

... I forgot, you start off with the daggers Risk and Reward. They have a 5% chance of procing bluff. I assume that is what is going on then?

That's probably it.

Another way to get sneak attacks while soloing is to use a (improved) deception weapon and item (afaik deception on 2 weapons won't stack, and neither will it on 2 items, but 1 item and 1 weapon add up).

On my rogue I use an upgraded ring of lies and epic midnight greetings (both have improved deception), and with bluff for the rare occurences when SA doesn't proc from deception I deal SA damage most of the time even when soloing.

[Laeelin]

If I will be soloing a lot, would HE for the second bluff be very useful? I may want to go HE just for the dilly anyway.

[goodspeed]

If I will be soloing a lot, would HE for the second bluff be very useful? I may want to go HE just for the dilly anyway.

That second bluff if VERY useful. Once SA is unchained your gonna be nailing that thing for an extra 100 or so a blow. And if you can stun it or helpless it in any way, that thing will be dead and down in a moment if that.

[Saekee]

That's probably it.

Another way to get sneak attacks while soloing is to use a (improved) deception weapon and item (afaik deception on 2 weapons won't stack, and neither will it on 2 items, but 1 item and 1 weapon add up).

On my rogue I use an upgraded ring of lies and epic midnight greetings (both have improved deception), and with bluff for the rare occurences when SA doesn't proc from deception I deal SA damage most of the time even when soloing.

thank you, I did not know the item bonus and weapon bonuses stack! Might be useful to start a thread for rogues with lists of items that generate deception? (I do not want to sabotage this thread)

[karl_k0ch]

thank you, I did not know the item bonus and weapon bonuses stack! Might be useful to start a thread for rogues with lists of items that generate deception? (I do not want to sabotage this thread)

http://ddowiki.com/page/Deception

http://ddowiki.com/page/Category:Deception_items

[psykopeta]

I just made my first rogue (iconic, and mostly used the assassinate tree) just to get a 1 quest feel for the class. I was very surprised by how often I would get SA damage. I assumed that solo I would get SA damage only when I did a bluff or on the first attack.

Instead I picked up a lot of SA damage. For the first group I stealthed in and assassinated the first mob and it died. Then I started meleeing the next mob and got several lines of SA damage before it stopped and then I bluffed and had a couple more SA before it died. Then I turned on the last one and got multiple attacks with SA before it stopped working.

Is this normal, or was I getting lots of lucky dual wield and double strike attacks when opening up?

Do you normally get many SA attacks in while soloing even without bluff?

-Thanks

rad2+ improved deception in equip, not weapon (i could bring an offhand with deception to have a higher % to proc bluff in the offhand but it's a waste of dps) u don't need more when killing groups of less than 3 mobs, i use bluff really few times, for ex i bluff a caster that is far from me and blow up the melee in front, i bluff bosses, i bluff some big melee i want to kill 1st (before the blind on 15-20 hits XD)

but y, what u got is deception, the base one(comes with weapons) the time u spend using bluff is 1 attack(2 if u have gtwf) that attack is easily 20% of mobs hp so i use it when is needed, never would think of making a HE for being assassin, go halfling, lvl 17 with 16d6 on SA (3SA from halfling, 4 heal sla,6 csw sla and 8 clw sla per rest,+3 bluff and +3 to hit when doing SA,+2 dex and +2 saves, perfect for assassin)

[Qaliya]

I get a pause with bluff also. Even if I click it while it is on cooldown.

My experience with soloing has not been as positive as the OP's. Maybe it's because I'm very low level, but I find almost everything sees me nearly immediately because they're usually just standing there in a dungeon hallway looking right at me. Bringing a hire or a summon to draw aggro seems to help a lot.