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    If you want to introduce new builds or want critique or advice for your build please open your own thread.
    Non-Monk throwers are far off topic here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firewall View Post
    If you want to introduce new builds or want critique or advice for your build please open your own thread.
    Non-Monk throwers are far off topic here.
    sorry just seen the Shiradi Shuricannon in the title and went to post did not see "Monk" Shiradi Shuricannon my bad

    ps I did start my own thread Kent's Custom Character Builds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firewall View Post
    Drow Monk 20 Ninja Spy Shiradi Shuriken Thrower Build with Ten Thousand Stars and Max DEX plus high WIS
    - poison damage synergy of Venomed Blades and Sting of the Ninja (non-named shuriken only (bug!)) and scaling with 200% melee power
    So is Sting of the Ninja bugged with crafted shurikens like thunderforged or the eveningstar shurikens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkh389 View Post
    So is Sting of the Ninja bugged with crafted shurikens like thunderforged or the eveningstar shurikens?
    Yes. It only works with random loot and cannith crafted shuriken.

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    One of the changes of U24 Patch 1 makes Epic leveling with a spelltouched throwing weapon a bit easier.
    From the Release Notes:

    • The chance for epic monsters to ignore ability score damage has been reduced from 90% down to 33% on Epic Hard and 50% on Epic Elite. This chance remains zero percent on Epic Casual and Epic Normal


    Since spelltouched weapons often have one stat drain ability on them and mostly add a second one as random proc this change makes them a bit more powerful. Also note that the Tier 5 Ninja Spy ability Crippling Strike benefits from this. So when in Sneak Attack range you have up to 3 stat drain abilities per shuriken!

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    Since the number of views of this thread is still going through the roof i wanted to remind you that this version of the shuricannon is mostly outdated and is not supported or updated anymore. The new version that is up to date with recent changes of the game and that has way more DPS can be found under the following link:

    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...63#post5491463

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    Default OK so rolled this exact build for my 4th life..

    Quote Originally Posted by Firewall View Post
    WARNING: A new, more powerful and more up to date version of this build is available here: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...63#post5491463
    This version will not be updated by me anymore.


    Drow Monk 20 Ninja Spy Shiradi Shuriken Thrower Build with Ten Thousand Stars and Max DEX plus high WIS

    Pretty straight forward build:
    - highest monk shuriken crit range with Ninja Spy capstone and Overwhelming Critical in Ultimate Mountain Stance: 15-18x2, 19-20x5 in Legendary Dreadnaught, 13-18x2, 19-20x4 in Divine Crusader for Sting of the Ninja and use with Life Stealing shuriken (Level Drain), Radiance II shuriken (Blinding) and Shimmering Arrowhead (Crippling), Thunderforged (On-Crit damage effects: Dragon's Edge, Crippling Flames, Burning Emptiness)
    - very high number of attacks and attack speed through Shuriken Expertise and Ninja Training (they stack!), Full BAB, Blinding Speed, Doubleshot, Whirling Wrists and Ten Thousand Stars
    - great saves with Water Stance and Bulwark of Defense (Defensive variant)
    - Max DEX for shuriken attack and damage, Shuriken Expertise and Ninja Training Proc Rate, High Reflex Save, Hide, Move Silently, Balance, Tumble, AC
    - Improved Evasion
    - Vorpal at full attack range
    - poison damage synergy of Venomed Blades and Sting of the Ninja (non-named shuriken only (bug!)) and scaling with 200% melee power
    - Shiradi for high damage and Crowd Control, Legendary Dreadnaught or Divine Crusader for high DPS
    - All the usual Monk survivability including highest running speed for kiting and abundant step for access to safe spots
    - high Spell Resistance
    - incorporeality from Shadow Veil with +3 passive Ki regeneration
    - EE viable high AC, 30% Dodge, Deflect Arrows
    - Limited Self Healing with Wholeness of Body, Healing Spring, Rejuvenation Cocoon, Silver Flame Potions and Eternal Bottle of Rum
    - Lots of Feats


    Drow:
    - 20 starting DEX
    - +2 DEX from racial enhancement tree
    - Free Shuriken Expertise and Shuriken Proficiency Feats
    - +4 to Hit and Damage (Xen'drik Weapon Training)
    - Venomed Blades (up to 1d8 poison damage) (scaling with 200% melee power and being doubled by Sting of the Ninja with non-named shuriken only (bug!))
    - 44 Spell Resistance

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    Level 28 Lawful Neutral Drow Female
    (20 Monk \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 412
    Spell Points: 117537822 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 19
    Reflex: 27
    Will: 19
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
    Strength              8                    13
    Dexterity            20                    36
    Constitution         14                    19
    Intelligence         10                    14
    Wisdom               14                    15
    Charisma             10                    14
    
    Tomes Used
    +5 Tome of Strength used at level 1
    +6 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
    +5 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
    +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
    +5 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
    +4 Tome of Charisma used at level 1
    
    Level 1 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
    Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
    Feat: (Automatic) AC Bonus
    Feat: (Automatic) Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Drow Spell Resistance
    Feat: (Automatic) Elven Keen Senses
    Feat: (Automatic) Enchantment Save Bonus
    Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Kama
    Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
    Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves
    Feat: (Automatic) Flurry of Blows
    Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
    Feat: (Automatic) Immunity to Sleep
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Handaxe
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
    Feat: (Automatic) Shuriken Expertise
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Club
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Dagger
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Heavy Crossbow
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Light Crossbow
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Quarterstaff
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Unarmed
    Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
    Feat: (Automatic) Spell Save Bonus
    Feat: (Automatic) The Way of Air
    Feat: (Automatic) The Way of Fire
    Feat: (Automatic) The Way of Earth
    Feat: (Automatic) The Way of Water
    Feat: (Automatic) Unarmed Strike
    
    
    Level 2 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness(Heroic) or Deflect Arrows(Epic)
    Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
    Feat: (Automatic) Meditation
    Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
    Feat: (Automatic) Trip
    
    
    Level 3 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
    Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot
    Feat: (Automatic) Fast Movement
    Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves: Path of Harmonious Balance (ALL)
    Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves: Path of Inevitable Dominion (ALL)
    Feat: (Automatic) Still Mind
    
    
    Level 4 (Monk)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Magic
    Feat: (Automatic) Slow Fall
    
    
    Level 5 (Monk)
    Feat: (Automatic) Improved Heroic Durability
    Feat: (Automatic) Purity of Body
    
    
    Level 6 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Quick Draw
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Ten Thousand Stars
    Feat: (Automatic) Adept of Forms
    
    
    Level 7 (Monk)
    Feat: (Automatic) Wholeness of Body
    
    
    Level 8 (Monk)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    
    
    Level 9 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot
    Feat: (Automatic) Archer's Focus
    Feat: (Automatic) Improved Evasion
    
    
    Level 10 (Monk)
    Feat: (Automatic) Curse of the Void
    Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Lawful
    Feat: (Automatic) Moment of Clarity
    
    
    Level 11 (Monk)
    Feat: (Automatic) Diamond Body
    
    
    Level 12 (Monk)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Thrown Weapons
    Feat: (Automatic) Abundant Step
    Feat: (Automatic) Master of Forms (ALL)
    
    
    Level 13 (Monk)
    Feat: (Automatic) Diamond Soul
    
    
    Level 14 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 15 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot
    Feat: (Automatic) Quivering Palm
    
    
    Level 16 (Monk)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Adamantine
    
    
    Level 17 (Monk)
    Feat: (Automatic) Timeless Body
    
    
    Level 18 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise
    Feat: (Automatic) Grandmaster of Forms (ALL)
    
    
    Level 19 (Monk)
    Feat: (Automatic) Empty Body
    
    
    Level 20 (Monk)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Feat: (Automatic) Perfect Self
    Feat: (Automatic) Shining Star
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Bulwark of Defense
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical (or Combat Archery if you want max dodge and cannot reach it without it)
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Epic Mage Armor
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed or Epic Reflexes
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Doubleshot
    Enhancement Distribution:

    Racial Tree:
    18 AP
    - All Core Enhancements
    - All Xendrik Weapon Training
    - Improved Dodge Tier 1 (because my character is above dodge cap with more)
    - Venom Lore Tier 1 (you might put this point into Improved dodge if you are not at cap yet)
    - Venomed Blades Tier 1 (you might put this point into Improved dodge if you are not at cap yet)

    Henshin Mystic Tree: 12 AP
    - Two Core Enhancements
    - Way of the Patient Tortoise
    - Full Negotiator
    - Full Contemplation
    - Dexterity

    Ninja Spy Tree: 41 Points
    - All Core Enhancements
    - All Sneak Attack Training and Crippling Strike
    - Sting of The Ninja
    - Full No Mercy
    - Two times Dexterity
    - Full Acrobatic
    - Full Stealthy
    - Full Agility
    - 2 points in Faster Sneaking

    Shintao Tree: 9 Points
    - Two Core Enhancements
    - Ki Shout
    - 2 points in Exemplar
    - Full Conditioning

    Variant: If you are at uneven DEX and uneven WIS or CON you can also drop DEX, one point in negotiator and the 2nd core in Henshin Mystic and take full Exemplar, 2nd core and CON/WIS in the Shintao tree for more HP, Heal Amp and positive spellpower.


    Skills:
    - Concentration max
    - Spot max
    - Tumble 1 Pt.
    depending on your INT Tome also any of UMD, Heal, Move Silently, Hide, Jump, Balance

    If you can reach a high enough UMD (39+) you can boost the Shuricannon's power with Tenser's Transformation, True Seeing, (Greater) Teleport, Raise Dead and some other Scroll and Wand Buffs.


    Stance:
    - Ultimate Water Stance for passive Ki regeneration, Dodge Bonus and Saves and when tanking Caster Bosses
    - Ultimate Mountain Stance for tanking Melee Bosses


    ED Twists:
    - Twist 1: Echoes of the Ancestors: Shadowdancer (FS Tier 4); Sense Weakness (FotW Tier 4); Purify Weapon (US Tier 4); Improved Combat Expertise (LD Tier 2); Brace for Impact (US Tier 1)
    - Twist 2: Rejuvenation Cocoon (PA Tier 1); Fast Healing (FotW Tier 1)
    - Twist 3: Enlightenment (GoF Tier 1) for passive Ki regeneration
    - Epic Completionist Twist 4: Critical Damage (LD Tier 3); Grim Precision (SD Tier 3); Walking with Waves (GMoF Tier 3); Orchid Blossom (GMoF Tier 3); Improved Combat Expertise (LD Tier 2) or any good Tier 1 ability


    Gear:

    Update 23 Gear layout for Full DPS variant: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5466808


    My pre Update 21 endgame gear layout can be found here:

    - Head: Helm of the White Dragon (EH currently, EE planned) +3 Insightful DEX, Blue Slot: Resistance +7 (+8 planned), Colorless Slot: Concentration +13 (+15 planned)
    - Neck: Deadly 9, Natural Armor +10 (better one planned)
    - Goggles: EE Shadowsight, Green Slot: +35 HP, (+40 HP planned)
    - Trinket: Planar Focus of Prowess +3 Insightful CON
    - Armor: Flawless White Dragonscale Robe with Alchemical Armor ritual, Blue Slot: +14 PRR (+16 planned)
    - Cloak: EE Jeweled Cloak, Yellow Slot: Globe of True Imperial Blood, Blue Slot: +2 Good Luck
    - Bracers: +10% Heal Amp, Parrying VIII, Colorless Slot: Vitality (+20 HP)
    - Belt: +10 DEX, +9% Dodge (better one planned)
    - Ring 1: Seal of House Avithoul (+2 Insightful WIS)
    - Ring 2: Tier 3 Epic Ring of the Stalker with Eldritch Resistance Ritual, Colorless Slot: STR +6 (+8 planned), Yellow Slot: Deathblock
    - Gloves: Gauntlets of Immortality, Colorless Slot: +7 CON (+8 planned), Yellow Slot: Power +200 (250 planned)
    - Boots: Greensteel Boots of Smoke: Permanent Blur, 2x Displacement, +45 HP, +6 DEX Skills
    - Quiver: EE Quiver of Poison
    - Mainhand: Spelltouched Shuriken and others
    - Offhand: Celestia, Green Slot: Golem's Heart planned

    Other useful equipment suggestions:
    - Main Hand Weapon: Shadow Star, Snowstar, Spelltouched Shuriken with Life Stealing, Alchemical Shuriken (Silver,Earth,Fire,Air), GS Radiance II shuriken, GS Triple Positive Shuriken, The Morning Star, Thunderforged Shuriken,...
    - Offhand Weapon: Cannith Crafted +5 Seeker VIII Kama/Shortsword with red augment slot (Devotion Spell Power), Treason, fully upgraded Celestia for AOE procs, green slot and set bonus with Planar - Focus, Rebellion for lots of passive bonuses and red slot (Devotion Spell Power), Alchemical Kama (Triple Air), Thunderforged Shortsword,...
    - Trinket: Shimmering Arrowhead, Planar Focus, Pale Green Ioun Stone,...
    - Helm: Epic GH Dragon Helm (White)
    - Armor: Tier 3 (Epic) Frozen Tunic, Epic GH Flawless White Dragonscale Robe, ...
    - Bracers: Wind Howler Bracers for leveling, Bracers of the Sun Soul, Epic Skirmisher's Bracers
    - Quiver: EE Quiver of Poison
    - Ring: Tier 3 Epic Ring of the Stalker, Seal of House Avithoul, Epic Ring of Shadows,...
    - Neck: (Epic) Golden Guile, Epic Guardians Locket,...
    - Boots: EE Treads of Falling Shadow,...
    - Gloves: Backstabbers Gloves,...
    - Goggles: Shadowsight

    Deadly, Accuracy and Speed are good item enchantments until you have the Epic Blinding Speed Feat.


    Comments, Questions and Suggestions Welcome

    So I rolled this character up exactly with +5tomes full cannith crafted masterful craftsmanship gear and am curious if it is just me or is this build slow in the beginning? I farmed up the shadowstar and snowstar just to be properly equipped. I think my question is what is the playstyle like at like level 4? Because right now the throwing damage isn't great yet without 10kstars. Do you use your fists in the beginning and just b an underwhelming monk until later levels? I just feel like I'm doing something wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe33 View Post
    So I rolled this character up exactly with +5tomes full cannith crafted masterful craftsmanship gear and am curious if it is just me or is this build slow in the beginning? I farmed up the shadowstar and snowstar just to be properly equipped. I think my question is what is the playstyle like at like level 4? Because right now the throwing damage isn't great yet without 10kstars. Do you use your fists in the beginning and just b an underwhelming monk until later levels? I just feel like I'm doing something wrong.
    I started my build at 18th level so I have all of the feats that increase the throwing rate of the shuriken.

    I think you will be slow to start because of this. the feats needed to make ranged combat work are really numerous ... Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Quick Draw, Rapid Shot, Improved Precise Shot, Improved Crit:Thrown, 10k Stars.

    That's a lot of feats needed to come online to get the full benefit of the speed increase that shuriken offer. You also need a lot of Dexterity to add to the damage as well as things like Haste. Be patient. It will take time to get accustomed to the ranged fighting and kiting. You will likely have to do *some* melee in these early levels until you get to about 9th (where you'll have 3 more feats than you currently do).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticRhythms View Post
    I started my build at 18th level so I have all of the feats that increase the throwing rate of the shuriken.

    I think you will be slow to start because of this. the feats needed to make ranged combat work are really numerous ... Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Quick Draw, Rapid Shot, Improved Precise Shot, Improved Crit:Thrown, 10k Stars.

    That's a lot of feats needed to come online to get the full benefit of the speed increase that shuriken offer. You also need a lot of Dexterity to add to the damage as well as things like Haste. Be patient. It will take time to get accustomed to the ranged fighting and kiting. You will likely have to do *some* melee in these early levels until you get to about 9th (where you'll have 3 more feats than you currently do).
    Thank you SO much for the reply man. Much appreciated. That is what I was thinking. I actually rolled up the Shuricannon 2.0 and posted this in the wrong spot too lol. But I might even LR into a pure fighting monk then LR again past the halfway point im thinking.
    Thanks again for the speedy reply.

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    If you have questions better ask them in the new Shuricannon 2.0 thread here: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...huricannon-2-0

    As i said before this build is outdated and not supported by me anymore and i will rarely check this thread for new posts.

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