Redsonja - a Melee/Ranged DPS Barbarian

[unbongwah]

Where is toughness. You can't have this Berserker tree past the 3rd core without toughness. This can't be done

If you're talking about the Toughness feat, it's unnecessary. The "Toughness" pre-req on Frenzy refers to the lvl 3 Toughness enhancement, not the feat. Because it wouldn't be D&D without confusing & overloaded nomenclature.

[Cuchilo]

Can you post your epic choices under LD and FotW please.

Also, how do you get Master's Blitz up, the build seems light on Tactical feats. What do you use most often?

[Xunnar]

I've been looking for a Barbarian build for a while, and I like the looks of this one.
The thing is I only have 32p build and no tomes available.
Is there anything I can do to make it viable with those factors in mind?

[unbongwah]

The thing is I only have 32p build and no tomes available.
Is there anything I can do to make it viable with those factors in mind?

Now that Turbine has dropped the STR pre-req on Overwhelming Crit, the only stat pre-reqs on this build are STR 17 for ITHF/GTHF and DEX 17 for Manyshot. Everything else is just bragging rights.

For a 32-pt build w/out tomes, I would start 16/16/16/10/8/8; you can either put a lvl-up pt into DEX or buy a +1 DEX tome off the AH to qualify for Manyshot.

[Xunnar]

Now that Turbine has dropped the STR pre-req on Overwhelming Crit, the only stat pre-reqs on this build are STR 17 for ITHF/GTHF and DEX 17 for Manyshot. Everything else is just bragging rights.

For a 32-pt build w/out tomes, I would start 16/16/16/10/8/8; you can either put a lvl-up pt into DEX or buy a +1 DEX tome off the AH to qualify for Manyshot.

Awesome, thanks!

[unbongwah]

Quick conversion:

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Level 26 True Neutral Human Female
(1 Fighter \ 18 Barbarian \ 1 Ranger \ 6 Epic) 
Hit Points: 412
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 11
Will: 5

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 26)
Strength             16                    21
Dexterity            16                    17
Constitution         16                    16
Intelligence         10                    10
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma              8                     8

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Cleave
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Barbarian)


Level 3 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Great Cleave


Level 5 (Barbarian)


Level 6 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot


Level 7 (Barbarian)


Level 8 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 9 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Barbarian)


Level 11 (Barbarian)


Level 12 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot


Level 13 (Barbarian)


Level 14 (Barbarian)


Level 15 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting


Level 16 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Barbarian)


Level 18 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 19 (Barbarian)


Level 20 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting

I prefer to get Manyshot ASAP, but that means backloading the THF feats. If you'd prefer to focus on melee-only while heroic leveling, just reverse the order on PBS/RS/MS and the THF chain.

[Aviya]

Guys I've Posted the new build for update 24 changes, hope you guys find it useful! https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...79#post5479079

[Cryptic.Assassin]

Guys I've Posted the new build for update 24 changes, hope you guys find it useful! https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...79#post5479079

Hi there, first off let me say thank you for this amazing looking build! I am getting ready to TR back to barb as it's my favorite class and I love the idea of having a bit of ranged capability so I was going to give this a go.

Is this still an awesome build? I remember that the synergy between fury and ranged was changed a few updates back but I cannot remember what it was. I've looked at your new Sonja build and it looks great but I like this one better personally.

I guess my questions are, are there any changes to enhancements that'd you'd make now since this builds inception? Is furyshot still viable?

Thanks for any replies.

[Aviya]

Hi there, first off let me say thank you for this amazing looking build! I am getting ready to TR back to barb as it's my favorite class and I love the idea of having a bit of ranged capability so I was going to give this a go.

Is this still an awesome build? I remember that the synergy between fury and ranged was changed a few updates back but I cannot remember what it was. I've looked at your new Sonja build and it looks great but I like this one better personally.

I guess my questions are, are there any changes to enhancements that'd you'd make now since this builds inception? Is furyshot still viable?

Thanks for any replies.

The old build is kinda viable but a bit outdated.
The biggest change happened when master blitz was changed from 250% damage boost to 70 melee/ranged power. That basically killed the utility of manyshot because the low base damage doesn't really justify put your greataxe down most of the time. That's why I created the melee only version now.

That being said, if you want to have a mix of melee and ranged barbarian for fury destiny I'd recommend a different class split and enhancement split so you can get the most out of playing in fury of the wild which is always very fun.

A Class split that I see well is 12 barbarian, 6 ranger, 2 fighter.

6 Ranger Deepwood gives you sniper shot (+2 critical multiplier and +2W) that you can use in combo with adrenaline during manyshots

Fighter gives 3 feats, 2 bonus and heavy armor proficiency.

At level 24 you have the option of Ic bludgeon or stunning blow according to your taste.



Starting
Abilities Base Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1)
Strength 18
Dexterity 14
Constitution 17
Intelligence 9
Wisdom 8
Charisma 8

Tomes Used
+5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Human Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting

Level 2 (Barbarian)

Level 3 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot

Level 4 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead

Level 5 (Barbarian)

Level 6 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave

Level 7 (Barbarian)

Level 8 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR

Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons

Level 10 (Ranger)

Level 11 (Ranger)

Level 12 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Dragon
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting

Level 13 (Ranger)
Feat: (Autogranted) Manyshot

Level 14 (Barbarian)

Level 15 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting

Level 16 (Barbarian)

Level 17 (Barbarian)

Level 18 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons

Level 19 (Barbarian)

Level 20 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Precise Shot

Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical

Level 22 (Epic)

Level 23 (Epic)

Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons or Stunning Blow

Level 25 (Epic)

Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Epic Spell Power: Positive

Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Damage Reduction

Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting

[Caprice]

Edit: Reading fail on my part. THF vs TWF, duh. I also removed the comment about Cleric, since I don't see 2 feats worth removing to fit in Divine Might.

12/6/2 is a very strong split. You might consider taking Ranger at level 1 for some extra skillpoints.

I've been thinking about going 11/6/3 for working through Barbarian PLs, since we get a silly amount of PRR/MRR for a cheap 6 AP into Stalwart Defender, or maybe 10/6/4 for an extra feat.

[Aviya]

I've been thinking about going 11/6/3 for working through Barbarian PLs, since we get a silly amount of PRR/MRR for a cheap 6 AP into Stalwart Defender, or maybe 10/6/4 for an extra feat.

Stalwart defender is not possible because it prevents you from becoming raged so that rules out 11/6/3
As for 10/6/4 you lose some healing amplification and some hp for 1 feat which is something not worth since we have all the feats we need so I'm pretty sure the build 12barb 6 ranger 2 fighter I posted is the one I like most.
Cleric option is totally viable but kinda tight on enhancements and feats but workable for sure. You end up loosing some minor Prr and utility for like 5 more damage which is always nice.

[Cryptic.Assassin]

Wow, tyvm for the detailed response!
How does the new ranged build compare to your 18/1/1 red sonja in terms of dps though? I really only want ranged for fun/flavor because melee gets very boring to me after a while but if the dps is a lot lower than I'd probably just go with your pure barb RS 2.0 build since I melee 95% of the time anyway.

I just TRed from a BF Cetus build and the mix of melee/ranged was the most fun i've had on my melee in a long time and the dps was quite nice but barbarian has always been my favorite class so I think I will give this one a go.

Ty again for the builds and the replies.

[Stinging_Bee]

Wow, tyvm for the detailed response!
How does the new ranged build compare to your 18/1/1 red sonja in terms of dps though? I really only want ranged for fun/flavor because melee gets very boring to me after a while but if the dps is a lot lower than I'd probably just go with your pure barb RS 2.0 build since I melee 95% of the time anyway.

I just TRed from a BF Cetus build and the mix of melee/ranged was the most fun i've had on my melee in a long time and the dps was quite nice but barbarian has always been my favorite class so I think I will give this one a go.

Ty again for the builds and the replies.

I'd try pure barbarian first. If you feel you are really missing ranged ability you can go the other route

[Caprice]

Stalwart defender is not possible because it prevents you from becoming raged so that rules out 11/6/3

Good point! Thanks for preventing a noob mistake. :-)