18 Rogue, 2 monk new enhancement layout. Using Deadlock's pdf file for reference

[Nightmanis]

Ok, the build is an 18 Rogue, 2 Monk wis built stun build.

Racial Tree:

• Human Versatility: +20% damage, 1ap
• Human Adaptability: +1 wis, 2ap
• Improved Recovery: 10% heal amp, 2ap

5ap total

Assassin Tree:
Tier 1

• Knife in the Dark: 1ap
• Sneak Attack Training: 2ap
• Stealthy 3: 3ap

6ap Total

Tier 2

• Dagger in the back: 1ap
• Venomed Blades 3: 6ap
• Sneak attack training: 2ap

9ap total, 15 spent to this point

Tier 3

• Critical Accuracy 3: 3ap
• Sneak attack Training: 2ap

5ap total, 20ap spent to this point

Tier 4

• Critical Damage 3: 3ap
• Killer 3: 3ap
• Sneak attack Training: 2ap

8ap total, 28 spent to this point

Final cores: Assassin's trick, Nimbleness, and Lethality.
3ap total, 31 spent total in Assassin, 36 spent total



Mechanic Tree:
Tier 1

• Arbalester: 1ap
• Faster Disabling 3: 3ap
• Mechanics 3: 3ap

7ap total

Tier 2

• Wand Heightening 3: 3ap

3ap total, 10 spent to this point

Tier 3

• Wand and scroll mastery 3: 6ap

6ap total, 16 spent total in Mechanic, 52 spent total



Acrobat tree:
Tier 1

• Acrobat: 1ap
• Charming 3: 3ap
• Faster Sneaking 2: 2ap
• Acrobatic 3: 3ap

9ap total

Tier 2

• Subtlety 3: 3ap
• Haste Boost 3: 6ap

9ap total, 18 spent to this point

Tier 3

• Dexterity: 2ap

2ap total, 20 spent to this point

Tier 4

• No Mercy: 1ap

1ap total, 21 spent to this point, 73 spent total


Ninja Spy Tree:
Tier 1:

• Ninja Training: 1ap
• Sneak Attack Training: 2ap
• Acrobatic 2: 2ap

5ap total

Tier 2

• Sneak attack Training: 2ap

2ap total, 7 spent in tree, 80 spent total


What do you all think? Took me a good maybe 5 minutes to come up with this list.

Stats:
10 Str
17 Dex
13 Con
11 Int
17 Wis
8 Cha

Have a +3 tome for all stats, +4 for Dex and +5 for wisdom. Can not wait to get a +5 Dex tome...

Thinking the new feat list will look like:

• TWF
• ITWF
• GTWF
• Improved Critical: Bludgeon
• Precision
• Toughness (It's still giving hp)
• Rogue past life
• Stunning Fists
• Weapon Finesse
• Great Wisdom (Just because)
• Improved Sneak Attack

And one more feat I can take, wondering what to use. Probably Power Attack for when I have enough bypass.

So how's it look? Seems pretty basic, and I don't feel like I lost anything that I had before. End up with exactly the same amount of HP, MOARDEEPZ, and some interesting tricks. Plus I get Dex to damage with my fists which is a welcome change. Another 2-3 damage a hit without having to micro-manage my str as much.

[Nightmanis]

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.16.01
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Level 25 Lawful Neutral Human Female
(2 Monk \ 18 Rogue \ 5 Epic) 
Hit Points: 296
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 19
Will: 18

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 25)
Strength             10                    13
Dexterity            17                    21
Constitution         13                    16
Intelligence         11                    14
Wisdom               17                    29
Charisma              8                    11

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 4
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 4
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 4
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 4
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 4
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 4
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
+4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 15
+4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 15
+5 Tome of Wisdom used at level 19

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 25)
Balance               3                    11
Bluff                 3                    29
Concentration         1                    32
Diplomacy            -1                     6
Disable Device        4                    31
Haggle               -1                     6
Heal                  3                    15
Hide                  7                    34
Intimidate           -1                     6
Jump                  0                     7
Listen                3                    15
Move Silently         7                    34
Open Lock             7                    30
Perform              n/a                    n/a
Repair                0                     8
Search                4                    31
Spot                  7                    38
Swim                  0                     7
Tumble                7                    15
Use Magic Device      3                    29

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist


Level 3 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse


Level 4 (Rogue)


Level 5 (Rogue)


Level 6 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Sneak of Shadows


Level 7 (Rogue)


Level 8 (Rogue)


Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Rogue)


Level 11 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Precision


Level 12 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion


Level 13 (Rogue)


Level 14 (Rogue)


Level 15 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 16 (Rogue)


Level 17 (Rogue)


Level 18 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Slippery Mind


Level 19 (Rogue)


Level 20 (Rogue)


Level 21 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Sneak Attack


Level 22 (Rogue)


Level 23 (Rogue)


Level 24 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Great Wisdom


Level 25 (Rogue)

Add in the enhancements up top, and then all you need is to figure up a gear setup.

Anyone have a list of all the gear?

Also, feats for levels 26, 27 and 28 are tentatively:

Tactician
Blinding Speed
Perfect Two Weapon Fighting, 10% offhand

[MalarKan]

if dex based, i would rather go halfling or elf and take a dragonmark :P (easy self heal on H'ling and free Displacement as elf)

Also, i havent run the numbers, but you might get more dps out of extra d6 seank att from H'ling.

Yes, droping human is losing one free feat and skill points per lvl, but i just supose you could get rid of one feat (i would drop stunning fist once at cap) ...

:P cheers!

[Nightmanis]

:P cheers!

Nuuuu I'm not going with a half wit. And I'm not dropping stunning fists, I use them in EE all the time and it works fine. Granted yes I don't have the 70 to knock a minotaur warrior senseless, but at 65 I don't think I'm too far off ;P

Plus I just scroll displace constantly anyway. That, and if I stay Human I could go with the passage dragonmark and get DDoor.

Plus that would involve tring. I'm not going to tr for a while, just going to use the free lr and make this build.

[jalont]

(i would drop stunning fist once at cap) ...

o.O

[MalarKan]

IIRC...


i think i saw someone saying that dex is not aplying to fists , somewhere... dont know if WAI or not... could be wrong xD im just waking up

[Nightmanis]

IIRC...


i think i saw someone saying that dex is not aplying to fists , somewhere... dont know if WAI or not... could be wrong xD im just waking up

Oh my God I would be so angry...