Completionists Rejoice!

[unacceptable]

Lol....so powerful of a feat that most of us that earned it do not even take it over things like toughness (because you need this to qulify for epic toughness or racial toughness enhancements), cleave, great cleave, power attack, improved critical, TWF or THF lines, any meta (if applicable), any ranged feats (if applicable), dodge (most of the time), spell penn (all but evo and shirardi casters), spell/greater spell focus (all but shirardi casters), mental/imp mental toughness (shirardi casters), wizard past life (on all but shirardi casters), etc

To be honest I would venture to take even spring attack and whirlwind (if I had 2 feats to spare) over completionist. It might be different if this qualified us to take other feats with pre-reqs such as epic toughness or imp mental toughness.

The point is that it was much easier to fit this in before epic feats came around with pre-reqs such as cleave and great cleave that most never took before. Now not only is +2 all stats and skills trivialized, it is difficult to fit this feat in.

So for those that have not earned the feat, imagine if you put 4 years into earning the feat and Turbine decides to nerf your accomplishment to the oint where you can no longer take it. For other TRs, but non-completionists, what if Turbine decided to remove passive past life feats because its not fair to non-TRs? That is almost the equivalent of completionist now compared to pre MotU.

The completionist feat is worth taking for many builds. Jug builds even splash in ranger intead of pal to fit it in.

So you would have me believe you would pass up completionist so you can take a greater (or even epic) spell focus feat that gives you +1 dc to one school? Sorry but I don't buy that. Completionist is even better than wiz past life unless you value the 10 clickies higher than the other benefits you get from completionist.

I would prefer it to be free, but I don't buy the argument that it's not worth a feat slot. The fact that so many people take it says it is.

[unacceptable]

I heard all completionist character are getting their head size increased......

To match the proportions of their cosmetic pet.

[jskinner937]

The completionist feat is worth taking for many builds. Jug builds even splash in ranger intead of pal to fit it in.

So you would have me believe you would pass up completionist so you can take a greater (or even epic) spell focus feat that gives you +1 dc to one school? Sorry but I don't buy that. Completionist is even better than wiz past life unless you value the 10 clickies higher than the other benefits you get from completionist.

I would prefer it to be free, but I don't buy the argument that it's not worth a feat slot. The fact that so many people take it says it is.

Because palemaster and archmage both currently require it...yes I would over spell focus and greater spell focus. No mention to epic spell focus did I make although. Most DC bases casters are going to take Epic Spell Penn and Epic Toughness as the 2 epic feats. And many do not take it, as I am friends with most on my server. I do not play jugg, but I from what I can tell most do not that are completionist. Wizards, Fighter or certain multiclass builds can.

And since the NDA is still in effect, lets just say GTWF and GTHF are also a good idea.

[jskinner937]

Again if it is't auto-grnated, it should be a qualifier for some feats to make it worthiwhile to take. Even if it qualified you for racial toughnes enh and epic toughness, I would be fine with that.

[jskinner937]

I heard all completionist character are getting their head size increased......

Edit:

Sorry, I was told that has already happened.... Behind the keyboard.....

And this is a valuable piece of community feedback...thanks for the input.

[unacceptable]

Because palemaster and archmage both currently require it...yes I would over spell focus and greater spell focus. No mention to epic spell focus did I make although. Most DC bases casters are going to take Epic Spell Penn and Epic Toughness as the 2 epic feats. And many do not take it, as I am friends with most on my server. I do not play jugg, but I from what I can tell most do not that are completionist. Wizards, Fighter or certain multiclass builds can.

And since the NDA is still in effect, lets just say GTWF and GTHF are also a good idea.

I am fairly certain the NDA doesn't apply here since almost every thread would be violating it if it applied.

I think it should be free, but it's still better than a huge # of other feats.

[Vellrad]

And since the NDA is still in effect, lets just say GTWF and GTHF are also a good idea.

Dude, THIS IS lamania forum, everyone here got acces to beta, and this subforums' purpose is meant to discuss NDA things.

[Silverleafeon]

The Producer DDO staff member who said "we will never do this" has been replaced by Producer Glin, so one can hope...

Tis on my wish list, but I will believe it when I see it.

[jskinner937]

Dude, THIS IS lamania forum, everyone here got acces to beta, and this subforums' purpose is meant to discuss NDA things.

Duh thought this as another forum listing....what is was referring to was Perfect TWF and THF.

[mrtweakin]

Sauce?

I'll believe it when I see it. I suspect most people agree it should be an auto-grant or, if not, at least beefed up to be more worthy of the effort it takes to get it. As it stands completionist is a tremendous grind and is generally only worth an extra +1 DC to whatever you happen to be specializing in. Given the current DC bloat, that is a big pile of meh.

[Deadlock]

Rumor has it Completionist feat will now be free AND Completionist will be recognized by a permanent blue aura.What do you think about recognizing the top 1% of DDO?/discuss

I don't want a permanent blue aura. I want this to be played whenever I join a party.

[Tscheuss]

For x3 completionists, all nearby npc's in public areas should bow and say things like, "Greetings, Great One."

I still like this idea.

[Silverleafeon]

Lol...

[Impaqt]

And this is a valuable piece of community feedback...thanks for the input.

about as valuable as spreading unsubstantiated rumors I'd gather....

[Cetus]

Just when I think I'm done beating this dead horse I muster up the willpower to make another post about this.

Yes, completionist should be free. Its silly to think otherwise considering the grind it takes and the power of a lot of its competitive feats within feat starved builds.

[UurlockYgmeov]

Rumor has it Completionist feat will now be free AND Completionist will be recognized by a permanent blue aura.What do you think about recognizing the top 1% of DDO?/discuss

/agree & signed.

[PsychoBlonde]

Rumor has it Completionist feat will now be free AND Completionist will be recognized by a permanent blue aura.What do you think about recognizing the top 1% of DDO?/discuss

Woo!

If this turns out to be in error Imma punch you through the internet. Just sayin.

[Tscheuss]

Woo!

If this turns out to be in error Imma punch you through the internet. Just sayin.

I'll hold 'im; you hit 'im.

[kwyjibo_lol]

Because palemaster and archmage both currently require it...yes I would over spell focus and greater spell focus. No mention to epic spell focus did I make although. Most DC bases casters are going to take Epic Spell Penn and Epic Toughness as the 2 epic feats. And many do not take it, as I am friends with most on my server. I do not play jugg, but I from what I can tell most do not that are completionist. Wizards, Fighter or certain multiclass builds can.

And since the NDA is still in effect, lets just say GTWF and GTHF are also a good idea.

Neither of my 57+dc wizards take eSP nor eToughness. Its either eCasting DC's or eCasting stat if they are on an odd score.