Sagas!

[Henky]

This is a FANTASTIC idea--it'd be a difficult task but a way for people who hate to grind raids to get Commendations of Heroism in a slow but steady way.

Super mega signed.

Yeah, and people that play solo or in small groups can get commendations of heroism this way, for the armors basically, if they dont play raids they dont have weapons.

But no word off the devs on this matter, so i guess no comms on sagas. I prefer EE/EH items and comms over XP/renown.

[Aolas]

From what I read/understand, you can.

The Saga Quest NPC remembers where you are at in the Saga.

Superb, I think the whole saga setup is a real quality idea. Experienced players can freshen up their gameplay, newer players will need the to purchase content so it should bring in some revenue.

[danotmano1998]

take the reward for leveling destiny, which kills majority of XP gained this way.

Not necessarily.
Couldn't you just do the quests in your destiny of choice, visit the fatespinner to activate the one you WANT to get the xp in, chug a potion, put on your voice, and THEN go talk to them?

This may be the way they are finally giving us an option to gain xp in the destiny we actually want it in, as opposed to the one we enjoy playing most.

[mikarddo]

We're making a change that will increase the Saga rewards from their current values, and are doing so with a higher percentage of increase to the harder difficulties.

At the high end, the Honor of the Huntsilvers will award 165,000 Experience Points for a True Elite completion.

This XP award is an option that can be selected from the reward list when you turn in the completed Saga quest, and is in addition to all the experience points you will have earned by completing the component quests within that saga.

First, thank you for asking for input.

The concept of Sages is really great - but the reward needs to be compelling to make people run for it. Otherwise it will only be a side bonus you get once for running the quests anyway for favor / flagging.

Its unclear to me if the current setup means you get all of XP+Skill Tome+Reknown - or that you have to just pick one of the three. The Tome is somewhat interesting though obviously less open ended than XP or Reknown.

Btw, dont listen too closely when someone posts running 16 quests in 3 hours. If anyone is able to do that they are definitely far from representative. At any rate - 165k is not compelling at all. Make it 500k and its starting to look interesting without being incrediable at all. 165k might be suitable on normal but not for anything harder than that.

Finally, by all means implement Sages for lower level chains as soon as possible as well. Not only will that make running different quests more interesting it will also make buying different packs more appealing to premium players and/or make VIP look more attractive.

[mikarddo]

Not necessarily.
Couldn't you just do the quests in your destiny of choice, visit the fatespinner to activate the one you WANT to get the xp in, chug a potion, put on your voice, and THEN go talk to them?

This may be the way they are finally giving us an option to gain xp in the destiny we actually want it in, as opposed to the one we enjoy playing most.

You seem to have misunderstood the point. If you need to run in a capped ED in the quests you dont benefit from most of the xp - only from the Sage xp. Thats part of why the Sage XP needs to be significantly higher rather than cap out at such a small number as 165k.

[Shataan]

You seem to have misunderstood the point. If you need to run in a capped ED in the quests you dont benefit from most of the xp - only from the Sage xp. Thats part of why the Sage XP needs to be significantly higher rather than cap out at such a small number as 165k.

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[Aolas]

Seems like:

People who don't have the items they want will prefer to farm (one area intensively) rather than play sagas for loot drops.
People who have already farmed their items will prefer to play sagas but will want XP not loot.

So I guess there should be some kind of duality built into the saga reward system. Anyway, what you are talking about is an addition not a replacement to regular questing so the rewards might not be so important so long as everyone is having a blast.

Sagas are probably more appealing to old timers that have everything they want and are looking for a fresh challenge, trying to keep the older playerbase (subscribers especially) interested in sticking around. Rewards would likely be more in the region of being a marketing exercise to entice new players into purchasing extra content or sub up.

Lord how I hate grinding. As a newbie to DDO if I could gear up Aolas questing sagas it would be a dream come true

[Marupal]

Sagas sound like a great idea.

Was hoping to see a few more added to the list:
Harbinger of Madness and Reign of Madness.
The ones others have mentioned already Reaver, Shavarath, Droamm, and Litany.

The rewards sound interesting, certainly more than we're currently getting. Would still like to see items from the chains added to it in some way and Commendations.

Another thing that might be good: Tokens that you could take to another vendor and purchase the more elusive items. ...cuz it's been 4 years and I haven't pulled a Ring of Spell Storing yet. :P (I've traded for 2 or 3, but never pulled one)