Pity, the thrower

[ArcaneArcher52689]

So, with new enhancments around the corner, i've been trying to think of the best way to gimp myself, i mean make a thrower build.

So far, this is what i've come up with (similar to monkcher builds)

halfling 12/6/2 monk/ranger/fighter

12 monk- stances, access to new ninja spy tree, access to vorpal strikes to have unarmed slashing damage
6 ranger- free feats: precise shot, twf, itwf, and rapid shot, and also access to the new deepwood sniper tree, which seems especially appealing for throwers.
2 fighter- more feats, full BAB, could also go rogue for skills


stats: 32pt build
starting
str 10 + 9gear+2 rams=21(base 10)
dex 18 + 2tome+1lvl+9 gear+4stance=34(21 base)
con 15 + 9 gear +2 tome -2 stance= 24 (17 base)
int 8
wis 16 +2tome+5lvl+9 gear =32(23 base)
cha 8

feats: base 7
point blank shot
quickdraw
dodge
toughness(note, dodge+toughness may be switched out, but not sure what might be better)
ic blunt
ic throwing
Grandmaster of forms

monk: 3 bonus
shuriken expertise
stunning fist
10k stars

fighter: 2 bonus
improved precise shot
gtwf

epic: 2
vorpal strikes @ 21
combat archery @24

This build would have a
~43.5% chance to throw 1 shuriken
~45% chance to throw 2 shuriken
~11.5% chance to throw 3 shuriken

That is, assuming that the new ninja spy t1 core enhancement works like shuriken expertise, and also triggers separately.

leveling would look something like 1-6 ranger, 7-18 monk, 19-20 fighter
Using

epics would be played mainly in shiradi champion, twisting cocoon ASAP.

Any suggestions for making this build a better thrower? beside converting it to the standard monkcher?

[Failedlegend]

oops double post

[Failedlegend]

First I'll start by saying I'm going off whats in this PDF https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1XE...aFk/edit?pli=1 so it might be outdated

Well to start obviously Halfling is too awesome not to take for a Thrower build but the damage from shurikens is abysmal so what about a Rogue Assassin/Monk Ninja Spy to maximize SA damage...a sneak specialist too since the next expansion also includes a big update to stealth mechanics.

I'm just brainstorming here to get some ideas flowing and I really am curious what the best mix of rogue/ranger and monk is to get maximum SA So to start lets look at Rogue12/Monk6/Ranger2

Halfling: 1d6
Rogue 12: 6D6
Sneak Attack Training Rogue: 4D6
DSW Core 1: 1D6
Epic SA: 3D6
SAT Monk: 4D6

So that's 19D6 SA

Single Class Rogue Assassin

Halfling: 1d6
Rogue 20: 10D6
Sneak Attack Training Rogue: 4D6
Epic SA: 3D6
Capstone: 4D6

and thats 22D6 SA

So only 3d6 less than a Single-Class Rogue if I'm reading things right...not bad on shruikens

Now lets see what were losing by not having ranger 3-6

+10m of SA/PBS range. This is quite helpful in quests that have this much space. So I'd miss this
bunch of FE stuff which imo is useless
Called Shot/Aimed Shot I'm not really sure what to think of these...their nice abilities but have massive cooldowns.\
Precise Shot & ITWF...dang losing 2 feats might not work.

I think thats about it...let's see if I can fit in those 2 feats.

Let's see....

IC: Blunt - This is a thrower build the unarmed is just backup and to be used for stunning fist, etc.
Dodge = W/O Spring Attack or SOTR this is a fairly minor feat

So I dropped 2 feats...oh dang I forgo about the 2 Fighter feats...wait why ARE you trying to fit in TWF and whatnot again..this is a thrower build...you don't need TWF to land a stunning fist you just need handwraps of stunning and a High Wisdom. (I'm actually curious I'm not trying to be condescending...I think I missed something in your OP)

Personally I think going 12+Rogue is your best bet to getting a viable amount of damage out of this type of build...and of course Halfling.

Actually with Zen Archery this could easily be a Int/Wis Build for some Assassinating fun (assuming they fixed the bug where Assassinate doesn't work at SA/PBS Range only melee)

So let's see the build

Rogue13/Monk6/Fighter1 or 12/6/2 (rogue feat & +1D6 SA vs. normal feat & tier 2 fighter enhancements)

Str 8
Dex 17 (+3 tome and 1 lvl or +4 tome = 21 pre-req for Epic SA and CA)
Con 10
Int 16
Wis 16
Cha 8

Lvl-ups: You have a choice between here between a higher Assassinate DC (Int) and a better well everything Monk related AC, S-Fist DC, Shuriken Expertise Proc Chance,etc. Personally I'd go with Wisdom simple because it covers alot more things

Note: If Ranged Assassinate is still bugged stick with a Dex/Wis build with the majority of Lvl-ups in Wisdom

Like This:

Str 8
Dex 18
Con 12
Wis 18

Epic Destiny: Shiradi Champion - +60% Attack speed increase...case closed.

Feats (No particular order)


Normal

1 Quick Draw
2 PBS
3 IC: Ranged
4 Precise Shot
5 IPS
6 GMoF
7 10k Stars

Epic

1 Epic Sneak Attack
2 Combat Archery


Monk

1 Zen Archer
2 Stunning Fist
3 Shuriken Expertise

Fighter

1 Rapid Shot

Rogue

1 Improved Evasion
2 Slippery Mind (I'm not sure if Opportunist or Crippling Strike work for ranged weapons)


Oh actually looking at it this build has 3 % chance boosts to throwing an extra shot...do these stack

10K Stars = Wis % Chance
Ninja Training Core 2 = Dex % Chance
Shuriken Expertise = Wis % Chance


Oh also be sure you have a good crafter on hand and The Shroud and Lord of Blades Adventure Packs because as far as I know there's only 2 Named Shurikens that aren't Greensteel or Alchemical and their Level 2 (Shadowstar) and 4 (Snowstar).

Here's hoping they Epicfy "Seal of Shan-to-Kor"