Is the Shadar-Kai Assassin a Human Race? No extra Feats or Skill Points??

[JarinDearly]

So, I just tried out the Shadar-Kai Iconic and ran into two small things that I will shortly report back ingame. First, during the Character Creation, there was only one feat slot available to choose, and then I believe there were 4 skill points missing from the beginning total, though I could have just mixed up the math wrong on that detail. However, I'm stuck between re-starting the toon over again, or keeping it as is, considering the fact that I broke open the Collector's Edition ticket early in my glee to be Beta-testing. Is there a link out there to help with info on the specs of the Iconics, or is this feat/skill point lack supposed to be intentional for the Shadar-Kai?

Also, a second thing, I ran into a conversational glitch with Elminster in the opening sequence. Couldn't get a different dialogue answer from him about the details until I asked for further Rogue training. THEN, the extra questions started getting me new info from him.

Logging back on to try a bug report.

[Lilliana]

Lore-wise they are not humans. So I don't believe it is a bug, that they start without the extra human feat and without the extra human skill points.

[ComicRelief]

Lore-wise they are not humans. So I don't believe it is a bug, that they start without the extra human feat and without the extra human skill points.

Except that they actually have a 'feat' called "human" which states something to the effect that "for all intents and purposes, you are human". I'm not saying they should get the extra feat/skill points (though personally, I would like that), just saying that they are considered "human".

[Lilliana]

Except that they actually have a 'feat' called "human" which states something to the effect that "for all intents and purposes, you are human". I'm not saying they should get the extra feat/skill points (though personally, I would like that), just saying that they are considered "human".

Yeah, I saw that feat. But it seems to me it is to allow the Shadar-Kai to use magical items that require race:human. It should probably be worded more like the Half-elf Mixed Heritage feat.
Besides if the Shadar-Kai really were humans, why would they need a feat for it?

For good measure the feat is described as:
"You are considered Human. You are treated as such for magical abilities and effects, and are able to use appropriate equipment."

I don't read that as them being actual humans, but I realise this is probably a semantics question. But I think it would be wise if Turbine could make the meaning more clear, to avoid such confusion in the future (especially for new players).

[Vargouille]

They are not considered human for character creation purposes, but rather for qualifying for things like items or feats (though I don't recall any human-only feats Shadar-kai can actually take). This is for things like Race-restricted. Or for Sun-Elf Morninglords being considered 'Elves' and able to use Elf-only items (rather than changing all Elf/Drow/Half-elf items in the game to also say, "Oh yeah, and Sun-elves too").

[ComicRelief]

They are not considered human for character creation purposes, but rather for qualifying for things like items or feats (though I don't recall any human-only feats Shadar-kai can actually take). This is for things like Race-restricted. Or for Sun-Elf Morninglords being considered 'Elves' and able to use Elf-only items (rather than changing all Elf/Drow/Half-elf items in the game to also say, "Oh yeah, and Sun-elves too").

Figured that was the case. But it might be nice to add that little tid-bit to the creation screen, so people aren't surprised by the fact that they will not be getting the extra feat/skill points. Just sayin'...